frac sand with a hopper?

Dec 10, 2014 at 10:33 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. hi, does anyone haul frac sand with a hopper? if so, who do you haul for? what is the rate?

Replied on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 06:31 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Stay away, long lines. right now they are offering way to cheap to do the loads. We waited over 100 days on the detention and then only got paid a fraction of what they said they would pay. If you have 25 trucks then go to the shipper direct and you will make money, otherwise stay away. Trucker Beware!!!

Replied on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:38 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Stay away, long lines. right now they are offering way to cheap to do the loads. We waited over 100 days on the detention and then only got paid a fraction of what they said they would pay. If you have 25 trucks then go to the shipper direct and you will make money, otherwise stay away. Trucker Beware!!!" Who were you hauling for on the lengthy pay period?

Replied on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:38 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Stay away, long lines. right now they are offering way to cheap to do the loads. We waited over 100 days on the detention and then only got paid a fraction of what they said they would pay. If you have 25 trucks then go to the shipper direct and you will make money, otherwise stay away. Trucker Beware!!!"

Who were you hauling for on the lengthy pay period?

Replied on Thu, Dec 11, 2014 at 09:47 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. If you want to haul frac sand call commodity services inc. talk to derck. Really good people and they haul alot of it.

Replied on Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 08:44 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hello!! Yes call in 507-238-9411 ext 121 or 120 Terry or Dom they will help u.

Replied on Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 04:31 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. With the price of crude dropping..one company that i know of is telling their truckers that they just cut the rate 15%..to bring out to the well head. So watch other rates to tumble also..hauling frac sand.

Replied on Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:34 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I know a man thats leaving a tanker job hauling chemicals out of iowa to go haul oil in North Dakota and he claims he will be making 1200.00 to 1500.00 a day . So is he in for a suprise with crude dropping ?

Replied on Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 09:51 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I hope he got those figures in writing. Crude guys I know make around $120,000 a year...or $3,000 a week figuring 40 work weeks.

Replied on Sun, Dec 14, 2014 at 04:45 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The company he is going to be ieased to is iowa tanklines and thats what they been telling him what others drivers are making

Replied on Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 08:47 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I know plenty of drivers at Iowa tank lines all of them would laugh at that

Replied on Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:52 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Would rather not say, as this customer pays extremely well for hauling ag products as well as the frac sand. In the past we never had any problems with the frac sand as well. The last run we did for them in August was when the problems occurred. They have done their best to pay us at least some of the detention. It still does not take away from the fact that my trucks could have easily made between $10,000 - $15,000 hauling our standard freight. With the merger and aquisitions that are occurring in the oil industry, my advice is to stay away until the dust settles and it gets back to normal sometime next summer. Here is the financial hit we took on the detention: Total owed: $2910.00 Total paid: $870.00 Total Loss: $2040.00 (not including lost revenue potential in August) While I don't like taking a loss at anytime, at least we recouped a certain amount of the money. This is the first loss that we have ever taken, so that also tends to make one a little more sore about the situation. It was entirely my fault for not pulling my trucks when the lines started backing up. Lesson learned, just felt I should warn the others about what was occurring in the oil/frac sand side of things. We will go back to hauling frac sand when the rates get back where they belong. So to those that want to haul it for cheap, good luck!

Replied on Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 11:52 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Would rather not say, as this customer pays extremely well for hauling ag products as well as the frac sand. In the past we never had any problems with the frac sand as well. The last run we did for them in August was when the problems occurred. They have done their best to pay us at least some of the detention. It still does not take away from the fact that my trucks could have easily made between $10,000 - $15,000 hauling our standard freight. With the merger and aquisitions that are occurring in the oil industry, my advice is to stay away until the dust settles and it gets back to normal sometime next summer.

Here is the financial hit we took on the detention:

Total owed: $2910.00
Total paid: $870.00
Total Loss: $2040.00 (not including lost revenue potential in August)

While I don't like taking a loss at anytime, at least we recouped a certain amount of the money. This is the first loss that we have ever taken, so that also tends to make one a little more sore about the situation. It was entirely my fault for not pulling my trucks when the lines started backing up. Lesson learned, just felt I should warn the others about what was occurring in the oil/frac sand side of things. We will go back to hauling frac sand when the rates get back where they belong.

So to those that want to haul it for cheap, good luck!

Replied on Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:26 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. So can you give me them drivers info that your talking about thats with iowa tanklines ?