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Pros and Cons of Belt Trailers

Mar 09, 2015 at 05:13 PM CST
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Hey looking to get a Wilson or Trail king belt trailer wanting to know pros and cons of both. More than likely buying used 2005-2010 didn't know what to look for as far as wear parts when im shopping. Also what kind of weight with a smaller truck am I looking at? How many tons can I get on?
Replied on Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 05:27 PM CST
I have a 2011 Wilson 42x78x102 and with a small bunk IH Prostar we can only haul 46000,they are heavy and expensive but very versatile
Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 08:05 AM CST

I have a 2010 wilson 42x84x102 on a day cab columbia and can only legally gross 24.5 ton. Just look the trailer over good and pay a little more attention to the web as i have seen trailers in that 05 to 06 range tear webs and they are not cheap to replace

Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 11:31 AM CST
Quote: "I have a 2011 Wilson 42x78x102 and with a small bunk IH Prostar we can only haul 46000,they are heavy and expensive but very versatile"

wow, we run Imcos that are 42x102 and I think they're 78" sides, might be 72. with an 06 9900ix with 72" sleeper I'm 31,400 full of fuel. with daycab 9200 I'm right at or just above 28,000. all trucks and trailers are running super singles
Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 04:03 PM CST
Wilson and Trail King are heavier trailers. We run Western Belts with 379 Ultracab&sleeper Petes with apu and weigh about 32500 with half fuel. TTc and Trinity are also lighter I believe
Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 09:21 PM CST
I have a timpte 42 ft long, 78 inch side,102 inches wide, 22 low pro all allum wheels that weighs 32000 fuel of fuel with a 2005 freightliner comumbia 230 inch wheel base. Oh yea , its for sale. 806.681.9095
Replied on Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 09:25 PM CST
I can haul 26 ton of ddg here in Texas with no problem, grain also and does not leak out anywhere. Very versatile trailer. Wilsons I bet work the same. Trinity works excellent also. Trinity probably weighs 1000 lbs less.
Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 04:23 PM CST
My question is, are the rates any better for a belt or walking floor over a hopper to counter the extra expense?

Replied on Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 04:43 PM CST
You can't compete with a hopper with a belt,but if you are looking to haul product that has to be on belt or walking floor it will pay some of a premium over hopper rates,my reason for a belt was we were hauling wet ddg's in end dumps and sometimes product came right off and other times it would not and some farms are just not set up to stand an end dump in the air
Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 05:13 PM CST
I have owned all of them at one time or another, TTC and Western are the lightest on the market today both very well built and will last a very long time . I have now changed my fleet over to all TTC I feel they have the best trailer.
Replied on Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 05:18 PM CST
If you have any questions just give me a call
Replied on Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 11:55 AM CST
has anyone ever seen a belt trailer that will also dumo like a dump trailer
Replied on Sat, Sep 07, 2019 at 10:53 AM CST
Quote: "I have a timpte 42 ft long, 78 inch side,102 inches wide, 22 low pro all allum wheels that weighs 32000 fuel of fuel with a 2005 freightliner comumbia 230 inch wheel base. Oh yea , its for sale. 806.681.9095"

Still available any pics?

Replied on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:33 AM CST
Quote: "I have owned all of them at one time or another, TTC and Western are the lightest on the market today both very well built and will last a very long time . I have now changed my fleet over to all TTC I feel they have the best trailer. "

You are running any of new ttc trailers?

how are they?

Replied on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 07:49 AM CST

They're great until the chain breaks. Cross contamination can be a problem too, depending on products.

Replied on Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 10:17 AM CST

a lot of good comments. We run mostly trinity but there is a western and a wilson rolling around here too.

The cons: 3 years ago a new trinity was 68k. They asked us 118 for same build for this year and we had to pass. You got some major overhead in them. We dont have a lot of maintenance issues, but most would be more expensive than a hopper. On some lanes, you cannot compete with the equipment costs and payloads of a hopper. Also, pet food mfg have gotten very particular about contamination and have mostly stopped using belts. The rates on those hauls tends to be poor anyhow, but it does take away some options. Another point is you have the expense of a wet kit, and the cost to keep it maintained. We are about 30k on day cab petes and 32k on sleeper trucks. copmared to 26/28 with hoppers.

The Pros: Some loads require live bottom and pay more. Another pro is being able to leave a load on the trailer without fear of it bridging up like a hopper. Another pro is the versatility. Rock/feed/grain/litter/coal/wet stuff, etc.

With the operating an interest costs vs trucking rates, you need to buy your equipment cheaper to be able to turn profit.

Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 07:03 AM CST
You will want a 3 chain belt so if 1 breaks you can still limp off the load
Replied on Mon, Oct 30, 2023 at 07:04 AM CST
It's an old thread but a lot of good info. I decided to buy a belt trailer because I'm from Southern Michigan. We have a lot of specialty crops here such as seed corn, potatoes, cucumbers, and sugar beets that often times require a belt or walking floor trailer. We also have a lot of dairies that want feed hauled to their bunks 24/7. Dairy producers don't have time to babysit a pit or auger system when they need feed. I started out with a Wilson Patriot belt, but have since went to running a Trinity. Both Wilson and Trinity are good trailers, but Trinity makes a lighter trailer that's easier to work on. I try to stay away from hopper work as you will never be able to compete with a hopper in terms of weight. My legal net is roughly 23 tons of product with my double bunk sleeper. The pro's to belt trailers: You can haul most any dry material except large rock. Quick unloading of wet DDG and wet gluten, no rubber mallet or vibrator required. You can unload pretty much anywhere without the fear of tipping over. Cons: Belt trailers are heavy, and they are expensive. Washouts (when required) will take longer on a belt than other trailers.
Replied on Wed, Nov 15, 2023 at 01:22 PM CST
Quote: "It's an old thread but a lot of good info. I decided to buy a belt trailer because I'm from Southern Michigan. We have a lot of specialty crops here such as seed corn, potatoes, cucumbers, and sugar beets that often times require a belt or walking floor trailer. We also have a lot of dairies that want feed hauled to their bunks 24/7. Dairy producers don't have time to babysit a pit or auger system when they need feed. I started out with a Wilson Patriot belt, but have since went to running a Trinity. Both Wilson and Trinity are good trailers, but Trinity makes a lighter trailer that's easier to work on. I try to stay away from hopper work as you will never be able to compete with a hopper in terms of weight. My legal net is roughly 23 tons of product with my double bunk sleeper. The pro's to belt trailers: You can haul most any dry material except large rock. Quick unloading of wet DDG and wet gluten, no rubber mallet or vibrator required. You can unload pretty much anywhere without the fear of tipping over. Cons: Belt trailers are heavy, and they are expensive. Washouts (when required) will take longer on a belt than other trailers."

I am the Marketing Manager for Trinity Trailer MFG., Inc. This is a great synopsis. The versatility game is strong in the belt trailer. When Trinity invented the chain and flap style belt trailer almost 50 years ago, the idea was to make unloading easier and safer for all products. We build trailers custom to meet your needs.

https://trinitytrailer.com/sales/build-your-trinity-belt-trailer/