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Do you think any others will offer aide?

Aug 17, 2016 at 11:47 AM CST
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With the flooding that is occurring in Louisiana, do any of you think that any other nations will render aide either financially or physically?

Will they send over food, or manpower?

I doubt that any other nation sends one penny or lifts one finger in aide, so answer this one for me why do we send Billions upon Billions to other nations in money, food, manpower, and finally supposed military protection. I have always thought we should keep our dollars here at home.

What do you think?
Replied on Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 01:45 PM CST
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Why would anyone care, all the Democrats have to do is print paper. Screw us for allowing it to come to this
Replied on Wed, Aug 17, 2016 at 02:27 PM CST
Quote: "Why would anyone care, all the Democrats have to do is print paper. Screw us for allowing it to come to this"

It's a real shame that this Great Country has went in such a horribile direction since 1988.

Replied on Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 08:41 PM CST

I hope you all will vote for some tough love in Nov. We have way too many freeloading moochers in this country voting also which really scares me that the liberals could really distroy things worse than what they already have

Replied on Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 11:11 PM CST
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Been sharing the truth out here with many an individual. Black, White, Latino, Asian and others. I am amazed at how many of us are sickened by the current conditions that are occurring in our nation presently. Most of us feel that the racial stir pot that is being poked by the media and the gooberment are to keep us all at odds with each other. The current candidates for President both lack greatly and show us that the masses only want either somebody to give them everything for free, or that we are all so pissed off that we want nobody else to have anything at all. That being said and done for those of you that can vote you must make the choice as to what will be the best for our nation as a whole. I personally feel that we need to withdraw from trying to be the worlds police force and concentrate on our own nation for a while. Wasting money, energy, troops, and other resources in areas of the world that are no concern or business of our tax dollars. If churches and other charitable organizations want to help other nations so be it. Our tax dollars should remain at home where they belong. I would rather see us fix our roads, educate those in the inner city as to ownership and responsibility for becoming business owners. Giving our teachers, fire fighters, police officers, and military raises. (Congress and the rest need to take a pay cut for the shitty job they have done. They actually should have to pay us back for their massive failures at running the gooberment,) Reducing taxes overall and encouraging growth within, tax the shit on companies that have moved jobs out of our borders. It is time for the old companies like GM to die and new ones like Tesla to rise up and take their place. We need to quit giving subsidies to farmers, those on welfare that can work, pet projects that only benefit an extreme group of whiners that do not contribute back into our society. For those that can work they should work. If you don;t work then you don;t eat, it is amazing how an individual will get creative when they are hungry.

Let's start being honest with one another instead of lying to one another. None of us were created equal, we were all created unique by our creator. Each of us bring something unique and different to our environment. Why do all of you want to claim that you are equal when you are unique. All parties being equal is the concept of socialism and communism, it is also what they do to prisoners in our penal system. Do we really want orange to be the new black?

Replied on Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 12:43 PM CST
really? where is your aide for starving, drought ridden africa? your aide is picked and chosen by your government based on its needs. where was your government during the fires in fort macmurray??? your country and their businesses sure enjoyed yanking the oil out of there when there was a buck to be made. and might i just bring up Katrina where canada shipped thousand of tons of soft wood lumber at discounted rates and were promised a tariff break to supply.....guess what? your government still has out 20 mil in tariffs ......but if there is oil to be had or poppy to be harvested your government is all about saving the world from menace.....funny how that works......better of to just why your country doesn;t take care of itself.......try giving the flood victims insurance policies instead of aid........
Replied on Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 05:27 PM CST
Nancy.. Isnt it odd that the US has poured billions in to Africa.. Sad thing is the governments there are so crooked that most of the aid is pocketed by politicians. As for the mc murray fire.. What about the cajon pass fire.. Any of the clearlake fires.. The big sur fire.. And the list goes on and on.. Those are all current going on fires today..where the help with those? When the cajon pass fire was started it burned 1000 acres an hour for a few hours. .. But no aid there..
But the US has their big boy pants on and very seldomly needs anybody elses help.. As they say.. DONT COUNT ON IT..
Funny thing.. When big companys donate.. Its not for love.. Feelings.. Or what ever you want to call it.. Its called tax deduction.. But lets not get into a pissing match on who does what..

Replied on Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 05:29 PM CST
Ohhh and Nancy.. We bought Canadian oil but we have our own... And the only other country that stepped up to the plate on that is China.. Lets not forget where the economy was before the oil sands.. Oppps guess we cant talk about that..
Replied on Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 05:44 PM CST
Quote: "Nancy.. Isnt it odd that the US has poured billions in to Africa.. Sad thing is the governments there are so crooked that most of the aid is pocketed by politicians. As for the mc murray fire.. What about the cajon pass fire.. Any of the clearlake fires.. The big sur fire.. And the list goes on and on.. Those are all current going on fires today..where the help with those? When the cajon pass fire was started it burned 1000 acres an hour for a few hours. .. But no aid there.. But the US has their big boy pants on and very seldomly needs anybody elses help.. As they say.. DONT COUNT ON IT.. Funny thing.. When big companys donate.. Its not for love.. Feelings.. Or what ever you want to call it.. Its called tax deduction.. But lets not get into a pissing match on who does what.. "

Billions to Afrika to prop up those crooked governments you mean, why else would they give aid to corrupt governments if that is indeed the case. as for your forest fires i would suggest the lack of forest management plays a huge part in the destructions such as in california and texas with their drought. again, the thought that you care for your own country and its infrastructure would impress anyone. we have the same issue up here, lack of funds cause unkept wilderness areas. the u.s. may wear big boy pants but seldom mentions the collapse of its own country's highways, bridges and infrastructure, again we have these issues up here. now i gotta go cut my grass. have a great weekend guys!
Replied on Fri, Aug 19, 2016 at 08:49 PM CST
Quote: "Billions to Afrika to prop up those crooked governments you mean, why else would they give aid to corrupt governments if that is indeed the case. as for your forest fires i would suggest the lack of forest management plays a huge part in the destructions such as in california and texas with their drought. again, the thought that you care for your own country and its infrastructure would impress anyone. we have the same issue up here, lack of funds cause unkept wilderness areas. the u.s. may wear big boy pants but seldom mentions the collapse of its own country's highways, bridges and infrastructure, again we have these issues up here. now i gotta go cut my grass. have a great weekend guys!"

Your absolutely correct on the lack of forest management- the tree huggers have that blocked down here so they can't go in and log or do much for proper management. I have a close friend out west in the lumber industry and he told me that in the good ole days when a fire started the loggers would do whatever it took to get it out and would get it under control FAST because their livelyhood was at stake. Now, they aren't "qualified" and we have a bunch of guys that go get their card and get payed by the hour to do fight fires and milk it for all its worth.
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 12:48 AM CST
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Honestly Nancy I wish I could just knock your ass out. I don't share your thoughts. I do believe in equality so get your gloves

Art Pfluger
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 09:58 AM CST
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Quote: "really? where is your aide for starving, drought ridden africa? your aide is picked and chosen by your government based on its needs. where was your government during the fires in fort macmurray??? your country and their businesses sure enjoyed yanking the oil out of there when there was a buck to be made. and might i just bring up Katrina where canada shipped thousand of tons of soft wood lumber at discounted rates and were promised a tariff break to supply.....guess what? your government still has out 20 mil in tariffs ......but if there is oil to be had or poppy to be harvested your government is all about saving the world from menace.....funny how that works......better of to just why your country doesn;t take care of itself.......try giving the flood victims insurance policies instead of aid........"

There you go Nancy, I was waiting for the aide to kick in without the aid. The question was designed to draw out advice not dollars. I know our country has been giving aid and aide to others when we should not have been. We have no reason to be involved in others problems when we first should take care of our own.

Marshall Plan: over 120 Billion spent helping Europe since WWII.
Aid to Africa: over 250 Billion spent
Aid to the Middle East: over 300 Billion spent
Aid to Asia: well we can't even begin to count the cost of Viet Nam and Korea
Aid to South America: over 180 Billion spent

I have no problem with generous people sending aid to those that need it, I have a problem when our gooberment and the powers to be believe that we should be wiping the noses and asses of those that can't do it for themselves. It is like we wanted to take the New Deal all around the world and have our taxpayers pay for it. These nations would have been better to fall under communist rule and then have failed and have started over that way. Instead we created an extended welfare program and now many of the peoples in these nations actually despise and hate us for doing so.

I speak from experience here having been to a lot of these areas in Uniform and having being spit on by the very people that we were supposedly helping. I was confused by the whole experience when I was younger, but now I understand perfectly well why the hatred toward us exist. It is time for our nation to withdraw and concentrate solely upon its own needs. We were doing fine before we got involved in all the poo poo across the world. It is not my responsibility to help the child thousands of miles away if I can't help the one that is one mile away first.

I refuse to rail on my brothers and sisters in Canada just because you seem to hate us. My cousin and others have told me that your are very pretentious, they have told me that they have had bad dealings with you in the past. Now I have tried to keep this civil between the two of us, but over the past couple of weeks you continue to pick at scabs that have long since healed over. I refuse to sling mud at our allies to the North as well as the South, each of our nations have our own problems and we need to individually focus on fixing them. I am sorry that your country got the raw deal on a trade agreement but we all know how ours has gotten the same raw deal on grain trade from your country to ours. I have been out meeting with farmers, truckers, mills and I keep hearing the same stories, maybe these stories are propraganda who knows? When you hear the same stories time and time again you either A: Believe them to be true or B: Stick your head in the sand in disbelief.

I am going to challenge you personally Nancy to put your money where your mouth is or at least your keyboard skills. How about this instead or railing and spitting venom at our country, why don't you and your company quit selling your products to our country? Just keep your precious resources us there in Canada where you feel the belong. We don't really need them down here, like Josh Buster pointed out we have more then enough trees to support ourselves if we could just get the dope smokers to realize that harvesting trees in a controlled environment is good for the enviornment. Take on this challenge and let us see where you and your company are sitting in one year without any trade with the greedy old USA.


Enought of my rant, thanks to all the others that through in their aide on this posting.

Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 10:09 AM CST
Sorry about some of the typo's but we all know the deal. Sometimes when you are throwing punches they start coming too fast and you hit the post button before reviewing, but I think all of you get the jist. The bell has just rang and it is Nancy's turn to throw some body shots back. I will be waiting Nancy for the next round.
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:27 AM CST
I love it ! Will be waiting to read more, lol !!
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 01:30 PM CST
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Alfred, IDGAF about throwing punches towards the north, you said something that set me off because it reminded me of how "great" of a trade deal we have with Nancy.

Nancy I think you should keep your shit up there. Your communist/quota system for the dairy industry has royally F***d ours, we had decent milk prices down here till that wonderful trade deal went through and you literally DUMPED all your heifers into our market and obliterated it. No BS- milk was cut in 1/2 in 6months, from $17CWT to $9CWT. You ship LOADS of hogs down just to my little area daily. When China quit buying your lumber a year ago you assholes DUMPED it all into ours and flooded it. Again obliterating it.

I think thats a fabulous idea, Nancy you keep your shit up there and we'll see how long your economy lasts, how long you can sit your happy ass behind a computer and spew garbage. I'll state the obvious- your country isn't shit without ours to the south of you. If you think it is I'm willing to let you keep your goods and we'll keep ours we'll see very quickly who can stand without the other. You ever wonder why your never attacked? Its because the UNITED STATES of AMERICA protects YOU! WAKE THE F**K up you MORON!!!!

Art- wonderfully stated.
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 02:23 PM CST
So we're cussing and threatening ladies over her opinion ?

Friends, at one time I thought and spoke much like you guys are expressing today.

Then one day I threw my Sirus radio receiver out and stopped listening to Faux News. My attitude problem cured itself.

To stop listening to talk radio and Faux News is comparable to giving up smoking but it can be done.




3. There is no "lesser evil" candidate in the upcoming presidential election.




Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 05:44 PM CST
What does Fox News and xm radio have to do with it? I too got sick of that channel and all news channels period, I turned on the local Denver Waco tree huger station yesterday. They preeching laying down in the streets, disrupting speeches, 15 dollars hr minimum, free collage, everything Bernie wants, and they still think they have a chance at winning, talk about total wack jobs!!!!
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 06:09 PM CST
If Trump can figure it out,then her country, will be begging us, to do business with us. One can dream. If the liar gets it the whole world is screwed, so miss Nancy might show some concern
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 07:36 PM CST
Quote: "What does Fox News and xm radio have to do with it? I too got sick of that channel and all news channels period, I turned on the local Denver Waco tree huger station yesterday. They preeching laying down in the streets, disrupting speeches, 15 dollars hr minimum, free collage, everything Bernie wants, and they still think they have a chance at winning, talk about total wack jobs!!!!"

Troy, Faux calls their talk radio programs news. I don't.

I got tired of hearing mean spirited, nasty, personal opinionated propaganda talk radio being passed off as news. When I hear the news I want clear truthful info so I can make my own decision on any matter.

When Paul Harvey went off the air I turned it off. I won't listen to either side whine about the other.

However, I do like the low necklines and short dresses all the Faux women wear on TV.







Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 07:57 PM CST
Jerry- i absolutely 137% agree with you on fox news and talk radio and voting this fall. I also agree with you on premise about debating here. I think it starts here in America 1st, the infighting here needs to stop, its the same in trucking as long as we keep fighting amongst ourselves over medial things we can never unite and take the power back. As for some Canadian running her mouth i don't have the time for it, I've watched those loons over supply sector's of our market multiple times under these trade deals and protect their's. She's bitching about 20mil in tariffs she can kiss my ass. Her damned country easily cost our dairy market double or triple that and a lot of good farmers don't milk anymore(im one of them) that industry still hasn't recovered.

Just my opinion eh!
Replied on Sat, Aug 20, 2016 at 11:55 PM CST
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Jerry under normal circumstances I would agree that my statement is out of line, but Nancy is anything but normal. Her statements are not constructive in any way. They lack any semblance of equal comparison. I'm not sure how faux news entered this, that's beyond me although it would be refreshing to hear a news broadcast that was factual and impartial, but they have some beautiful ladies. As for satellite radio, I remember when you're finger got sore from trying to find that next phantom radio station. While Trump baffles me another 4 years of Democrats will make us a 3rd world country.
I apologize for upsetting you, but really look the whole of this person's statements to date on this forum.

Art Pfluger
Replied on Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 11:46 AM CST
Gentlemen and let us please try and be that when we have a lady in the room. I realize this topic is a passionate one, I have posted this topic in a multitude of forums and received many results from it. Many negative and many postive. Nancy and I may disagree on topics due to the different point of views and yes she does get my goad from time to time. She has tried hard to remain somewhat professional with her commentary towards us and she deserves the same likewise. Her and I both know that it is a keyboard boxing match that we do with one another. She seems to enjoy it as much as I. I always remember when bantering with her that I am talking to a lady and that I excercise caution with my dialogue with her. I always think and refrain from using cussing with a lady, especially one that has conducted herself as such. I would not want somebody taliking to my wife, mother, or daughters is such a fashion.

Nancy brings and outsider perspective that is not in the good ol USA media, she is offering you the perspective as to how the majority of the rest of the world views us. While you may not agree with what she says, please take the time to digest it and realize the opinion from another view may indeed be valuable. I am very sure that she could post up numbers of aid that Canada has provided across the world as well, they often times are connected at the hip with what their big brother the good ol USA does.

We can see from her response to this topic that a wood deal went bad between our countries. I am going to point out to all, that the wood deal was more than covered by the grain deal in return. Her countries politicians have to blame somebody for what is going on there, just like our do here. In the end if all the people across this world would wake up and hold their politicians accountable for what is going on in their own country instead of believing the lies that the leaders spit out. We might just decide to look in the mirrors and start fixing problems for ourselves again. We put entirely too much trust in politicians that have been bought and paid for, I doubt that Nancy nor any of us are the ones paying for the politicians except in our taxes. She can tell you that her leaders waste just as much money on stupid projects as ours. I bet she has some pet peeves up there about how they run things as well.

Nancy, I was looking forward to you jabbing back at me, and coming up with a big word to describe me to counter attack the pretentious statement. At this juncture I hope that mowing you lawn went well this weekend, as mine ended up not needing it because a little too much sun burned most of it up. I hope we get a little rain this week and it brings it back for next weekend so I can enjoy the new mower that my wife bought me for my birthday. I realize that we come from different points of view financially and politically, but please continue with your insights on future postings. I apologize for any pain that this may have caused you.


Replied on Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 01:46 PM CST
Quote: "Jerry under normal circumstances I would agree that my statement is out of line, but Nancy is anything but normal. Her statements are not constructive in any way. They lack any semblance of equal comparison. I'm not sure how faux news entered this, that's beyond me although it would be refreshing to hear a news broadcast that was factual and impartial, but they have some beautiful ladies. As for satellite radio, I remember when you're finger got sore from trying to find that next phantom radio station. While Trump baffles me another 4 years of Democrats will make us a 3rd world country. I apologize for upsetting you, but really look the whole of this person's statements to date on this forum. Art Pfluger"

Art you haven't upset me. It's all kool and we're still on the same team. I was just trying to head things off before our message center turns sour.

With as many crooked brokers and cut rate carriers as we have to cuss we just don't have time to get bogged down with politics. 8
;^)

FWIW-- According to Reuters and BBC News there are at least 4 European nations with volunteers in Louisiana with money and supplies.

I'll be at a meeting about halfway between Baton Rouge and New Orleans tomorrow so I'll make a first hand observation and report back on it ASAP.
Replied on Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 08:59 PM CST
Mr. Beck I'm not sure what I can do for these people but if you are there and feel that I could help give me a holler.

Art Pfluger
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 09:10 AM CST
Quote: "Mr. Beck I'm not sure what I can do for these people but if you are there and feel that I could help give me a holler. Art Pfluger"

Art it's Jerry, not Mr.


Thanks will do. So far the muckety muck folks haven't shown up for a 7:30 meeting.

I don't know how us peons can come up with anything without their brilliant leadership (sarcasm alert)
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 02:11 PM CST
Just curious if they still hate the ones that are now saving them ?
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 02:11 PM CST
Just curious if they still hate the ones that are now saving them ?
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 03:00 PM CST
Quote: "Just curious if they still hate the ones that are now saving them ?"

You mean the ones G W Bush didn't wanna help? I thought they all moved to my neighborhood
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 03:14 PM CST
Quote: "Just curious if they still hate the ones that are now saving them ?"

Don't know Kevin often times they do.

The purpose of my post was to get people to thinking about us cleaning up our own back yard before we try and clean up our neighbors.

Just so everybody knows:

The EU donates a lot of aid and aide to the rest of the world as well.
Canada does as well.

Just a few years ago the United Arab Emirates donated the most in the world that year, I believe it was 2013.

Most years it is indeed the USA that donates the most overall, but we are not here to count who wins in the donation competition.

One thing all of these nations have in common right now is that they need to focus on their own problems, fix them, basically take care of their own people first and then they can once again help others. I realize they have all signed an agreement with the UN to help other nations, but a lot of those other nations have been on the dole for over 40 years now. Those nations are not going to do for themselves when others continue to do for them. The sad part is that Nancy is right, the nations that are giving to the others are by and large taking the resources from those nations for pennys on the dollar. Kind of like what happens with the trucker, except nobody is giving us any gooberment money to aid us.

I will show you an examplbe of how bad corruption exist on these donated money causes:

A few years ago a church organization asked me if I would donate a crew, some tools and some money to build a church in Africa. I was excited to be involved in the project so I met with their guys in charge. They showed me what they would need, when they would need it, and the projected cost to do the job. Their overall cost was around $275,000.00. I went back to my office and started looking around and after putting all the numbers togather I found that I could do the project with my crew to include the building, everything except the land, which they already had that was worth only $12,788.00. The building that we could build would be 1000 SF bigger than theirs and be done two months sooner. I could build this building for $125,000.00, imagine my surprise when they said no, they were flabergasted that I had gotten the permits far cheaper because I had put down that I was building a school, and was willing to pay a local official $15,000 to make it all work. I tried to explain that this was how things worked there. They have no understanding how things really work, so we did not build the building, and they spent six months and $275,000.00 doing it their way. Looky there they could have built two buildings for the price of one, I have found that when politicians and preachers are involved in redistriibuting the monies that they were entrusted with that somehow they often times fail. I have always wondered exactly where that extra $150,000.00 went. I am pretty sure I know but without the exact proof I will refrain from saying so.

Those that need the aid often times will receive very little of it in the end.
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 04:34 PM CST
Ive been in a couple of disasters over the years.. An earthquake and neighborhood flooding.. But nothing on the scale in Louisiana.. Had a red cross building on the end of one street.. Most people just stood around building and were gaukers trying to see what was in the disaster area.. They didnt do anything else.. Not helping but just getting in the way
I heard on the radio today that they dont want non esential supplys such as furniture etc.. But need food and water.. They say a truck shows up with non esentials and it takes people away from giving out needed things..
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 05:05 PM CST
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HEY IVE GOT TO APOLOGIZE FOR MY FELLOW CANADIAN NANCY, WHO LIKE MOST OF US CANADIANS CAN BE CRITICAL.WE COME BY IT HONESTLY, YOU SEE WE WERE THE 'EMPIRE LOYALISTS' UNDER BRITISH RULE. AND IF YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE BRITISH THEY TAUGHT US HOW TO BE SARCASTIC.
I FOUND THIS TOPIC INTERESTING, UNTIL PEOPLE (LIKE NANCY) MADE IT KINDA PERSONAL. MY COMPANY FOR INSTANCE RELIES ON THE GOOD OLD U S of A FOR 75% OF OUR BUSINESS. SO I RESPECT EVERYONES OPINION ON BUSINESS AND THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN THE STATES, BECAUSE WITHOUT THE AMERICANS THE REST OF THE WORLD WOULD BE A LITTLE POORER OFF IN ALL ASPECTS OF LIFE.
SO CALM EVERYBODY AND LETS BE VERY DIPLOMATIC, UNLIKE MR TRUMP, WHO IS VERY TEMPERMENTAL. TO BE HONEST HE SCARES THE HELL OUTTA EVERYBODY IN THE WORLD...DONT ASK ME ASK THE COUNTRIES WHO WATCH. CHEERS TO MY COUSINS IN THE SOUTH, MOST OF US LOVEYA :)
DON JENNER OWNER of J-BALL ELELECTRONICS
Replied on Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 06:54 PM CST
I think i can speak for some others here.. We take what others say with a grain of salt.. I guess a little north south competition.. Trash talk etc.. If we cant snivel about each other.. What else is there to do? We are like a big family.. Complain about each other.. How terrible they are or this or that... But we all come together when outside the family trys to pick on us.. Like we do with one rather large broker that cant figure out what city the load picks up at.. But nah nancy is part of the family.. You should have been here a few years ago with Silence Be Good.. That got rather nasty..
Replied on Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 05:14 PM CST
Quote: "Honestly Nancy I wish I could just knock your ass out. I don't share your thoughts. I do believe in equality so get your gloves Art Pfluger"

i am not to sure which i am more astonished by....your invitation to kick my arse or the fact you hide behind a woman's name on your door to prove it. impressive, sir, impressive
Replied on Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 05:30 PM CST
Quote: "There you go Nancy, I was waiting for the aide to kick in without the aid. The question was designed to draw out advice not dollars. I know our country has been giving aid and aide to others when we should not have been. We have no reason to be involved in others problems when we first should take care of our own. Marshall Plan: over 120 Billion spent helping Europe since WWII. Aid to Africa: over 250 Billion spent Aid to the Middle East: over 300 Billion spent Aid to Asia: well we can't even begin to count the cost of Viet Nam and Korea Aid to South America: over 180 Billion spent I have no problem with generous people sending aid to those that need it, I have a problem when our gooberment and the powers to be believe that we should be wiping the noses and asses of those that can't do it for themselves. It is like we wanted to take the New Deal all around the world and have our taxpayers pay for it. These nations would have been better to fall under communist rule and then have failed and have started over that way. Instead we created an extended welfare program and now many of the peoples in these nations actually despise and hate us for doing so. I speak from experience here having been to a lot of these areas in Uniform and having being spit on by the very people that we were supposedly helping. I was confused by the whole experience when I was younger, but now I understand perfectly well why the hatred toward us exist. It is time for our nation to withdraw and concentrate solely upon its own needs. We were doing fine before we got involved in all the poo poo across the world. It is not my responsibility to help the child thousands of miles away if I can't help the one that is one mile away first. I refuse to rail on my brothers and sisters in Canada just because you seem to hate us. My cousin and others have told me that your are very pretentious, they have told me that they have had bad dealings with you in the past. Now I have tried to keep this civil between the two of us, but over the past couple of weeks you continue to pick at scabs that have long since healed over. I refuse to sling mud at our allies to the North as well as the South, each of our nations have our own problems and we need to individually focus on fixing them. I am sorry that your country got the raw deal on a trade agreement but we all know how ours has gotten the same raw deal on grain trade from your country to ours. I have been out meeting with farmers, truckers, mills and I keep hearing the same stories, maybe these stories are propraganda who knows? When you hear the same stories time and time again you either A: Believe them to be true or B: Stick your head in the sand in disbelief. I am going to challenge you personally Nancy to put your money where your mouth is or at least your keyboard skills. How about this instead or railing and spitting venom at our country, why don't you and your company quit selling your products to our country? Just keep your precious resources us there in Canada where you feel the belong. We don't really need them down here, like Josh Buster pointed out we have more then enough trees to support ourselves if we could just get the dope smokers to realize that harvesting trees in a controlled environment is good for the enviornment. Take on this challenge and let us see where you and your company are sitting in one year without any trade with the greedy old USA. Enought of my rant, thanks to all the others that through in their aide on this posting. "

Alfred your rants just keep getting better, i would imagine anyone with an opinion other than your own suffers your verbose diatribe when making the mistake of answering you. you continually make my comments about agencies like your government an excuse to say everyone is personally attacking your citizenry. i love your little sexist analogies about the women at the flying j or whatever local outlet you choose to prove your amusing points when people do not agree with you.. just reading your posts makes me truly understand your narrow mind and inability to consider the rest of the world. please continue trying to make vietnam a case where you saved their country with your aid cause i really just tittered reading that one. intimating you know me through others is getting rather creepy but i guess that is the style you run with for your business and your personal life. i think it best if you just stick to letting us all know how good you are. i barely shipped anything down to america last year but i sure went into canada with a LOT of loads. funny how that works, trucks go both ways.....i think if you re read all your posts you will find the person who is most willing to sling mud or anything else is obvious, just because i do not like your government, don;t bullshit people and make it sound like i hate americans, i seriously never took you for that kind of drama queen. but then i learn new things everyday......
Replied on Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 05:47 PM CST
Quote: "I think i can speak for some others here.. We take what others say with a grain of salt.. I guess a little north south competition.. Trash talk etc.. If we cant snivel about each other.. What else is there to do? We are like a big family.. Complain about each other.. How terrible they are or this or that... But we all come together when outside the family trys to pick on us.. Like we do with one rather large broker that cant figure out what city the load picks up at.. But nah nancy is part of the family.. You should have been here a few years ago with Silence Be Good.. That got rather nasty.. "

Thanks jeff, i don't often make political comments unless i am ch97 of my chess club because it is actually called the politics channel. this situation warranted a little ego deflation. i am way to busy running loads to even look in here once a week now so you won't have much entertainment save for the next response from our friend from down south and his gals at the flying j.......ok i admit it.........i snickered......bad nancy
Replied on Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 06:25 PM CST
Quote: "Alfred your rants just keep getting better, i would imagine anyone with an opinion other than your own suffers your verbose diatribe when making the mistake of answering you. you continually make my comments about agencies like your government an excuse to say everyone is personally attacking your citizenry. i love your little sexist analogies about the women at the flying j or whatever local outlet you choose to prove your amusing points when people do not agree with you.. just reading your posts makes me truly understand your narrow mind and inability to consider the rest of the world. please continue trying to make vietnam a case where you saved their country with your aid cause i really just tittered reading that one. intimating you know me through others is getting rather creepy but i guess that is the style you run with for your business and your personal life. i think it best if you just stick to letting us all know how good you are. i barely shipped anything down to america last year but i sure went into canada with a LOT of loads. funny how that works, trucks go both ways.....i think if you re read all your posts you will find the person who is most willing to sling mud or anything else is obvious, just because i do not like your government, don;t bullshit people and make it sound like i hate americans, i seriously never took you for that kind of drama queen. but then i learn new things everyday......"

I actually enjoy bantering with those that have a different opinion than mine. It should draw out different thoughts so everybody can see different points and possibly learn from one another. I don't know you personally and you don't know me either. You have been a very fine combatant at the banter game, and I have enjoyed it. When it got your of hand, you noticed I apologized. I too have been very busy and oft times am replying from my phone when parked at night. In the end Nancy, all of us are being controlled by the puppet masters. I am just trying to get people to see that in my own warped way
Replied on Mon, Aug 29, 2016 at 07:07 PM CST
Quote: "I actually enjoy bantering with those that have a different opinion than mine. It should draw out different thoughts so everybody can see different points and possibly learn from one another. I don't know you personally and you don't know me either. You have been a very fine combatant at the banter game, and I have enjoyed it. When it got your of hand, you noticed I apologized. I too have been very busy and oft times am replying from my phone when parked at night. In the end Nancy, all of us are being controlled by the puppet masters. I am just trying to get people to see that in my own warped way"

Can I play the banter game with you in my own warped way ?
Replied on Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 12:10 AM CST
Nancy I can a sure you that I don't hide anywhere or anytime. The account when it was opened was done by my wife. Any post that I have EVER posted on this forum has been signed by me so that YOU and anyone else knows whos words are here. The only people on this earth that I fear work for the IRS past that here I am have at it, but in todays world where everyone wants to be equal and wants a participation trophy. I hold little back when it comes to gender. My neighborhood is over run all winter by snowbirds from north of the border. They show up do everything in their power to change my neighborhood to suit their needs for the few months that they are here, but I have to live here all year long.

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