ELDs

Our rates have went up since we started using ELD's. You will quit giving shit away for free. It also helps that I created an app for me and my guys to bid on profit margins as well. If they would just give us our sleeper birth split and not force us to attach the to our trucks, then Eld's would be the best thing to hit trucking in a long time.

Have not went under yet. Went to the Elogs about two years ago. Hard for a shipper or receiver to argue about the detention. We just email them a copy of the operators logs showing the lost time. Slam dunk, case closed. No more 1000 miles per day, hell on elogs you will find 650 miles to be a hump.

Do you have any issues with drivers not having phones capable of connecting with the system from keep truck in.com?

what app do you have

Might want to look at VDO then. They have one that doesn't require a smart phone or a monthly subscription fee. One time fee to buy the unit and has a printer built into it.

I tried the app route and tablet connected via smart phone. I wasted my time with both. Spend the coin and go with stand alone unit that stays in the truck. Your results may vary good luck

Funny....Alfred, I just put mine in today...looks like a winner. Id recommend them

It has to be hooked up to the ecm or it's not legal under the new rules that go into effect at the end of the year. Then you can go make the big bucks!!! Unless your looking for the two year extension

Absolutely correct, if it's not wired into the ecm, it's not compliant. And as for glider kits go, they will not be exempt, because it goes by the year on the title card. And being that a couple hundred thousand glider kits have been built using older motors, someone will have to design a a wire harness that's compatible with the older ecms to bridge the eld and ecm together, or your glider kits will turn into boat anchors.... and if they can wire a eld up to a older ecm on a glider, then they can do the same to a older truck with a electronic motor (So there goes the exemption for older trucks, pre 2000).... It's funny how many people that figure this out, suddenly change their tune about e-logs. The meggafleets that run them now experience very high driver turnover, with 90 days being the average length of time a driver sticks around, before they quit. All Elds will do is spread this disease to the rest of us. As far as rates go, no one can run a truck cheaper than a farmer can, because the truck is just a tax write off for the farm, it doesn't have to make money, and that's what we will compete against, so rates won't go up because of elds. As we go broke and sell our trucks, it's the farmers that will buy them, until the farmers are the only ones left in the market.

I have been very surprised how uninformed people seem to be, given that we are in the era of the internet.

Elds under current production are designed for the newer 120 pin ecm. Older ecms used 40 or 70 pin ecm. An interface to adapt would be required ( similar to the one used now to adapt the newer instrument panels to the older ecm) I believe Raytheon has them under production.

Here is the link for the app Dave:

http://services.calcuserve.com/

Farmers don't need write offs if they aren't making money. Right now they aren't making money with the low commodity prices. You will be able to buy the trucks back from the farmers after all of the farm sales that are gonna be happening next winter if the markets don't improve soon. A lot of farmers are having trouble getting money from the banks now. With the fed hiking interest rates it is gonna get worse.

Doesn't this new reg freeze with the Trump ban on new regs? Just wondering?

The smart ones that operated strategically will be in a position to grow, they will just buy their neighbors out at wholesale. The bank has to finance someone in order to unload the reposesed property, or else they are stuck with it. So here again no equipment or land will leave the market. Learn from your history, remember the early 1980's? What happened to all of those assets the bank foreclosed on? The larger a farmer grows, the more trucks he buys.

You have not shown us why this is different from the 1980's. And you have not explained what happened to all the property that the bank repossessed back in the 1980's. Did it evaporate into the air? Did the earth shrink ? Or did it remain in the market, under new ownership, continuing to be planted and harvested? And where did you get the idea I need to be operating more strategically?

I challenge you to show me where I ever once said it's the the farmers fault. That is your own interpretation of what was said. I simply stated some facts about the market, and how it's influenced by different factors, including the farm factor. I have only recently mentioned the farmer, since this ELD topic came up. Perhaps you think the farm crisis is different this time because it affects you? It would explain your over emotional behavior. If you think the world is going to stop without you, you should have them change your medication. In 2008 when all these big trucking companies with decades of experience were dropping like flies all around me, I was doing just fine. I am still here and they are not, so I must be doing something right. And by the way, I have family that farms, and they are doing just fine.

Interesting topic. I have 5 friends no using elds. And the one thing everyone of them has said is, it has cost me in payroll. One friend used to be home daily, but now finds himself running out of hours 10-20 miles from home. So he parks on the side of the road until someone from their shop can come get the truck. So now he his late to pick up the kids from school. Most of the guys I know run short runs, and all are unable to finish a run on time at least once or twice a week.
I've just recently started to run enough I need to carry a log book again because of the farmer problem. I'm sure a lot of farmers are driving because their incomes are down too. So sitting in line at the ethanol plants may just be a new way of life. I dont run killer miles, but once in a while you just need an extra 30 min to finish a load. Weathet issues, maybe a traffic tie up. Any one that thinks trucking is this perfect little black and white game is nuts. Its that way with any successfull business. Occasionally you have to work a little extra to handle your customers needs.
I truly fear that shelves will be low on food by March of next year. Farmers or the mills will find it difficult to get feed made, or delivered on time. Getting livestock to market will become problematic. Bottom line, there are not enough drivers to haul it now. And having to have more people touch the product is going to drive prices up. Sure you might be able to demand a better rate, but whats it going to do to prices of the goodz you consume. I don't see any good coming out of this regulation. Geez if drivers and dispatchers cant regulate them selfs, you really think a box is going to solve this?
Thanks for letting me speak.

Jeff it ain't over till the fat lady sings. OOIDA met with the whitehouse this week, and hand delivered a letter of protest that was signed by 50 different industries that are opposed to this mandate. Chief among them were the oil industry, chemical industry, ag industry, and construction industry. The folks tried shoving this down our throat, are pissing in their pants right now.

We use keep trucking. About 30.00 a month per truck. Work very well, and NO ONE CAN EDIT the actual driving times.

I ll take a shot at this...right now theres still 15% of large carriers and 85% of small carriers ARE NOT on elogs...i for one cant wait for the mandate to hit because its gonna cause a domino effect like the industry has never seen, its gonna be the perfect storm, no more rolling warehouse deliver in the nick of time, alot of lowball scum will disappear into the sunset, thus mandate will crash alot sooner tgan obama care did...the mega fleets who have pushed this garbage, you know the ones with half their fleets sitting empty, the other half filled with somalians that shippers and recievers just love dealing with are gonna se the fruits of what THEY have created....they re already finding out that the "new breed" driver isnt going to sit out here on the road up to 90 hours a week and 4-6 weeks at a time for a couple hundred bucks a week... and the public is just going to love all the SAFE drivers the FMCSA has created

(1) The Rule is "If you don't Normally have to Log over 8 Days a month, you can use Paper".. Says Nothing about going Out of State. So if you travel withing your 100 mile radius, you can go outside up to 8 days a month, and you still won't have to do E-Logs. (2) If you do "Drive Aways or Tow Aways, where the triler of vehicle is your Cargo, you are exemp (3) If you operate a vehicle that was Manufactured Prior to the year 2000, you are exemp.

My app is not on my phone it's on a tablet. I have only had one officer even look at it anyway. Put it on inspection and flip thru the pages easy as that. No texts on it or phone calls.