Here we go again

Well that is greed at its finest.

I am tired of brokers acting like a whole class above the truckers. Hey look the truckers are saving money and actually getting more than breaking even, better take more money for myself. The same way people say it shouldn't matter how much the brokers makes, should be putting a stop to this. It doesn't matter what fuel prices are don't take advantage of the people moving your product.

Anyone know of any checks and balances systems that prevent brokers from taking all and paying bare minimum?

This morning I tried so hard to make a load work even considered changing my route to make it work. All I asked was hey can you let me know if you give it away before I get back to you in less than an hour? He says nah, I lll be honest if I find someone else I am not going to let you know. I have other things going on. Ok?

Ok so after you say that what makes you think Ill ever work with you? What makes you think you can treat people like that and they will work with you? Especially since you pay under $2 a mile because "you just dont have that much in it". Suck my butt Mr.

Another thing I have my truck on a run. Truck got delayed unloading and was going to be 30 minutes later than expected for a Friday load. I called 8am Friday as soon as we knew it would take longer. I asked what can I do to get him loaded, broker sends an email sorry I am in a meeting he can load monday at 7 or we can cancel? What. You want to cancel an entire 1000mile load over 30 minutes?? So I called the facility and she called the guy who owns the product. He asks which broker and the load number and calls another facility closer and sets it up for us to pick. After all this work my broker didn't do, he still gets paid. And he also took 2 a ton off from the already bare as rate I accepted last time I did this route.

Even after he cut the rate I bet your still moved it for him like a slave. You are weak and they know it. No offense I don't mean that as an insult but it's all about power and negotiations here. I don't think you understand just how cutthroat and competitive the spot market is. If you don't move it someone else will. They know this. Also, the freight just isn't important enough to justify any precedence and there's an overflowing capacity of trucks. When you're hauling that type of freight all that matters is the bottom dollar. You're only a mule. Get used to it or get direct contracted customers. Also, FORCING someone to pay you what you want is extortion. This is the free market. Yes, they're greedy but you're in no position to change that and it's obvious. Put yourself into a position of power or get used to being the mule. You got two choices; what are you going to be? The hammer or the nail?!

Park them for two weeks , there will still be somebody to take the loads . A man told me that there is no such thing as a back haul but someone wanting to get back home takes the cheapest load then it tumbles downhill. The broker or trader has the edge . A few weeks ago I set out side as plant in eastern Nebraska and made several calls all cheap ones , A man was saying his load was stupid cheap and told me unless you are going there to pick something up or live close don't take it because there's not enough money to make it work.if they are making money to get the load why on earth would you put their grain in your trailers. Cheap freight made him money because of no time or sweet equity.

The state of the dollar has nothing to do with how much a broker is taking off the top of a rate nor how much a carrier is willing to move a load for. You're mixing things together. Though inflation may be intertwined with the economy for obvious reasons it has nothing to do with how much someone takes off the rate. Even your own statement lends credance to my words. There ARE cycles in this industry from all concevable venues. I'm painifully aware of what fiat currency is and how it functions in out privately owned "federal" treasury. I've read of few of Ron Paul's books in the past. The ecomony is controlled but not each of our personal business decisions are and if someone is isn't smart enough to learn how to run a business than that's their own problem and THAT is the free market. The reason most sink is facing them in the mirror. As far as the Fed goes in itself...you are 100 percent correct...they are stealing from us every time they print out another dollar. If the walking dead in this country would put down the phone, TV and football long enough to learn the ugly truth we'd have all of Congress and CEOs tarred and feathered by now. Too bad that day will never come because these sheep will not wake up. The Founders are undoubtly rolling in their graves!

Seems like you're the only one annoyed. Should the world be silent so they don't hurt your feelings? Instead of torturing yourself; why not stop reading?

A Socialist can also be a slave that expects the goverment or dictator to force others to capitulate so they can benefit. Instead of looking in the mirror and making the neccesary changes and/or accepting personal responisbility for their failures they play victim and blame others. This is exactly what the Houston losers are doing. They come here, take jobs, ruin freight lanes in entire states, demolish average insurance rates and don't even have the common courtesy to learn OUR language. THEN they have the audacity to try to force people (at our expense as tax payers) to pay them for their inadequacies, ignorance and disrespect. These people are Socialists just like the rest of South America. Again, you can play word games all you want and twist it them all out of context but the truth remains. Every one of those losers need to give it up. I hope they all are under the water in a week. The faster the over capacity issue corrects itself the faster we can get back to "normal".

Again, you are reaching, sir. They may me greedy but it's all relative. In the end though, greed isn't against the law AND it's not embexellment. There is no employee/employer relationship here. It's business to business. I think you're confusing the two because these losers ACT like employees. A true business rolls with the punches or closes the doors unless they're big enough to pay Congress to pass laws that keep them profitable. Maybe if these losers learned some English they could pool together under a single umbrella company. Then, they can go get a brokerage MC and find a direct contacted customer with a rate they can all work with. Again though, they're no good at running a business and/or they can't because of their ignorance of the spoken/written language of of nation. Both of the aforementioned conditions can be corrected by those determined to do so. Sitting around expecting the government to run their lives is disgusting in every way.

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I have signed well over 100 BCAs and I've never seen anything that met that criteria. You are reaching, sir. The only "controlling" parts are due to the Feds such as making sure proper insurance coverage is held and adhering to HOS etc etc. If these losers want to be EMPLOYEES they should sell their raggedy trucks and go get real jobs.

Your case was not the norm though, Jerry. These guys would be trip leasing if they got lucky and connected enough to get the opportunity to run for a bigger carrier. What we have today is every Ivan, Hector and Habib getting his numbers with no customers. Then they go around whining and crying about low rates while simulataneously stabbing each other in the back over scraps. They've all simply bought themselves jobs. If they want real rates they need to get their own customers. Again though, they're only a single truck show and frankly one solitary truck outfits are nearly worthless so the rates won't fantastic. They bought themselves extremely low paying jobs with long hours and a tremendous amount of responsibility. Pretty damn stupid to stay in the position unless you're a masochist. There's so many ways to fix it on their own but instead they want to point their fingers at everyone else. I have zero pity for such stupidity.

Agreed. Education is a major goal that should be instituted. Next, combine that with something like Jerry has been mentioning...a co-op. Gather together a group of single truck carriers in each of their respective geograohical areas. I believe the rest would fall into place in short order once shippers needs can be handled with a now much larger pool of trucks. However, none of this will ever happen until the capacity issue rights itself via attrition or natural selection.

I'm sorry, Dave. I cannot continue on with this conversation. Your incessant need to push your agenda without even reading what I'm writing is just too much for me. Let's just agree to disagree, sir.

I understand where you're coming from. I've been looking across the line to Indiana, where taxes are much better than Illinois. And I can build an actual "terminal" at a much lower rate. Right now Rob's been sitting on the rig. Or, he can park it at his dads place, 8 miles west of me. My actual office is in my home, at this time. I'm not one to make big leaps until I'm ready.

Absolutely. The Feds are even fining forums for discussing removal of said systems. Tell me that isn't crazy?! Our rights getting widdled away slowly but surely.