I AM A BROKER!!!!!!!

I was told long ago thatbtojers are actually making about 30% instead of what they are charging trucker.

Seems to me a federal law should be in place that requires all rates to be disclosed so you know what you are really paying out for thatbtojers service .

I'm sure brokers disagree with me on that

I can always use the name of a good broker in the Ks Ne area. Just in case I figure out how to fund truck and trailer. If not I can use the name of a good outfit to lease a truck on to

I get a bit frustrated with the state of this industry as well. Numerous conversations with the staff at Bulkloads about my position on how this all seems to be slanted to the brokers angle. If the brokers are somehow pulling this industry along, negotiotiating with the customers and trucking companies, then why is nothing moving forward? I saw there was a podcast about getting fuel while you wait in line. You might want to re read that last sentence.

You are right on the money, and if anyone took offence, then they didn't even give any thought to what you wrote, in their insistance that 'brokers are bad'. I've dealt with some that i will avoid like the plague, and others that got it figured out with proper rates & detention pay. It's too easy to blame the broker, when in reality, maybe you are the problem?? If it doesnt pay well enough, why are you hauling it?

Yep, had a driver decided to dispatch himself, figured out how much money he would save dispatching himself. Maybe he should have offered to take 2 - 4 weeks of dispatching in my office to get some insight instead, could have saved him the trouble. i think he found out how cheap you can haul if you are a singular trucking company.

The guys with 20 loads to haul in 3 days, dont want to call 100 truckers to see if 20 are availabke and then have 2 break down and miss the loads on the deadline. They'd prefer to call someone who can commit to having all 20 done by the deadline, and have their enough of trucks to cover in case of a breakdown. and yeah, usually can get much better rates on these projects as well.

Some folks can understand this, some folks will refuse to even try. Jim you sound like a 'good egg' to me, keep it up!!

~Just another former gear jammer, turned dispatcher.~

I know these people. Go there with a load and they never want it or cant take it cuz they dont have room.... I went to one place 3 times before refused to go back. Twice they had no room for it. ( why the hell did you order the load ?) Once they were broke down. But two days sitting one time and I got 200 bucks. The next two times I sat all day and got nothing for it. Ive sat at cargill for 2 days at a time, many times, because their facility is always broke down.

Other than that , as a company driver I have only got compensated for sitting a couple other times, when I hauled cement. That company brokered their own loads that I hauled. He paid me extra a few times, not the company I was actually working for.

One company around here does the cap at 250 and pay after 3 hours. But that is company drivers. They do make up for that though I think by paying guaranteed 50K a year. Home every weekend.

Art, I can't help but remember that conversation HaHa. It's always bugged my how brokers & truckers always get bunched into groups. I completely understand how brokers got the reputation we have, remember me telling you "I wasn't always on this side of the steering wheel"? I know there are some crooked brokers as well as bad truckers. One bad apple with ruin the bushel. I hope some day to have the opportunity to work with the ones on here who assume we're all evil. I will work just as hard for John Q Trucker as I will for the trucks who run for us. My boss has been operating trucks and running this company since long before many of these people were even born. many of you obviously remember times before deregulation, though that is widely considered to be the demarcation line between profitable & nonprofitable trucking. Though this was a part of the issue it was far from being the smoking gun many consider it to be. I personally know scores of truck owners both single & fleet who are doing VERY well for themselves, they dont claim to be running for $4/mi every mile either. Like many of you fine truckers have pounted out they simply know what it costs to run their equipment, pay their drivers and all other expenses and still make a buck or two. I'm not going to go into what they all say they get per odometer mile because it will most assuredly start an argument with certain people. I completely agree with many of those truckers who complain the loudest, "Something has to change". But I can almost guarantee you getting rid of all the brokers will not be the answer. I wish you all the best of luck, Happy Trails Truckers!!.

If your broker is charging 30% you need to move on. I am saying this and I am a broker. I promise you we do not unless you are dealing with a theif.

Call if you want help.

Farmers Grain 1-877-461-0355 ask for Angela

That's why I do flat rates. $50/$75 a load is all I charge. I feel that's more than fair, and so does my carriers.

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I'm sorry, I didn't take it like you was saying that all brokers are dogs. Was just defending myself lol. I am in this for the long money. Short money is for thieves, scams and the immature. Charge 30% or more and you'll live like a king for a day. Those carriers will be their loss and my gain. I agree, the next life for them is gonna be paying for their actions. I like your way of thinking man. I really do try to meet all carriers in the middle. They know that, that's why they take the good with the bad for me. always can make it up on another run. Thank you for the discussion. Really though if you or someone you know wants to deal with an equal i'm always available. Phone call away (802) 495-6182 or an email away- [email protected]

May all that reads this get the blessings you deserve and stay safe out there, On the road and with the people lol!!!

As someone who has a trucking side and a carrier side (flatbed only) I will say that it wasn't until I started the brokerage side that I realized just how many expenses a broker actually has that I wasn't expecting. Each shipper has their own requirements on what insurance is needed so in some cases that might only add $300/year to the base liability and cargo, where in others it might add $600-800/MONTH just to be able to offer their loads to carriers. Figure if even only 10 of 100 shippers require that, then brokers are paying almost as much as it costs to run a truck with payments, ins, fuel etc. That said, I opened the brokerage side to help truckers. I made a promise to myself to never keep more than 15% no matter how hot the market gets. I have kept as little as 7% in bad markets, in order to get the truck the best price I can get them. Not all of us get into brokering with the intent of making 30% or more.

Ok, let me see if I have this right. You want ME to find you a reload if you were to take a load from me? OR, you want my customer to pay you round trip money so you can bounce back home? If I understand you correctly you assume the shipper will just pay you what you want because they have it figured in their margins?

I would agree with that, and those who work with me regularly know that i will always try to help them help. if that means they need help getting from the destination of my laod to the origination of another load I wont hesitate. I'm assuming you've had bad experiences with brokers in the past, I hope eventually everyone will realize that some of us work VERY hard for the truckers.