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Problems finding and retaining drivers

Jul 21, 2021 at 11:44 PM CST
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How's everyone doing finding employees. We've not had any luck. We went 6 months before we got one and he's moving on because it's to hard. Just curious how everyone is handling it. Hopefully you have better luck than us thanks.

Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 07:34 AM CST
Most folks around my part of the woods have around a third to half of their fleet parked because of it, I have also noticed several types of businesses start to park their trucks and hire someone else to move their freight, even entities that don’t like each other now seem to be working together.
Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 01:55 PM CST
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Biden says pay more and Buttigieg says he is going to fix this. LOL #America last.

Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:12 PM CST
Quote: "Biden says pay more and Buttigieg says he is going to fix this. LOL #America last."

I got a hang rope and a tree that would fix their problems
Replied on Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 03:12 PM CST
I don't have employees but I know it is hard to find a good one or any one. Guy hit my trailer the other day at Cargill . His truck was already smashed in with no bumper. Owner of truck apologized and said he was down 3 trucks cuz no drivers. Had to hire who ever he could to survive. Here the class b drivers are not working. I know big nice company that can't find anyone . Plus a trash company owner I know can't find drivers. Hold tight. It's going to get worse. Biden talking about more lockdowns if people refuse to take vaccines.
Replied on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:31 AM CST
Does anyone hire out of Georgia?
Replied on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:32 AM CST

I feel your pain dale. There’s nobody worth a sh** anymore. We gave up and just accepted it

Replied on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:54 PM CST
The military can find people to dig latrines and bake like a potato in the desert, but brilliant business owners can’t find drivers?
Replied on Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 06:18 AM CST
I do believe that there are some carriers having trouble finding drivers in certain parts of the country, I just don’t believe that is necessary true for the whole country, based on the fact that rates don’t seem to be going up, I sure wish someone could offer a reasonable explanation of that phenomenon.
Replied on Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST

The optimum word here is DRIVERS! You can hire a steering wheel holder to make your truck down the road and tear up your equipment but to find a true truck driver is rare! Drivers today, coming out of schools and running with a trainer who is most likely as green as the recruit, are not taught the things a driver needs to know! I was taught to drive by my older brother when I was 14 years old. He put me behind the wheel of his 1972 freightliner cabover and I drove. He shifted the gears but I ran the peddles and steared! It was a proud day, after we stopped bouncing from the touchy foot feed on the big cam 400 cummins! Good times! He took me with when I could get away from school and taught me how to respect the truck and make it work for you, not just mash the gas and tear up the equipment! We need the more "Old School" instructors out there instead of book smart, common sense poor!

Good ole days! God I would like to go back! I am 55 years old and have been in this industry since I was 19. At this stage in life, my "give a damn" is busted and I zero f***s left to give. The drivers of today are not worth a damn and I can see a push to go to driverless trucks in the future.

Replied on Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 12:37 PM CST

The companies that are shedding the most employees are the ones mandating Vaccines and/or working folks to the bone. Folks aren't taking the Vaccines because nobody really knows what is in those things. If anyone speaks out against them. It is as if they commited blasphemy. Employers that think folks are just going to take a random drug so they can keep their job. Are in for a rude awakening. "Show us your covid vaccine papers". Are we in a time machine here, anyone?

Replied on Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 03:19 PM CST

I am now having mixed emotions on increasing my fleet. I was planning on buying my third one and interviewed a couple of men, one to run team with my nephew, until the new rig arrived. Gentlemen, you may have no idea how they came dressed for the interview.

I've purchased uniform shirts and jackets for my men. Flip flops are certainly not allowed. These fellows represent my company, as well as themselves, when dealing with customers.

Yes, I know the industry has changed, but the idea of showing professionalism, to me, is very important. One gentleman who was supposed to have five years experience did not show me very much. Especially since my drivers test includes backing up into several docks with different approaches to each. I won't hire steering wheel holders.

So, my expansion plan is on hold. I originally had the desire to have six rigs in the fleet. Five is the ideal amount to operate for a basic company, without the owner also being a driver. However, I have enough income with Social Securiy, my retirement account, and military disability stipend, that I don't pay myself from the "side" business. My ultimate goal is to leave the business to my nephew, once I meet the Great Dispatcher in the sky. All I need to do is find drivers who qualify to my standards.

Replied on Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 03:45 PM CST
Quote: "I am now having mixed emotions on increasing my fleet. I was planning on buying my third one and interviewed a couple of men, one to run team with my nephew, until the new rig arrived. Gentlemen, you may have no idea how they came dressed for the interview. I've purchased uniform shirts and jackets for my men. Flip flops are certainly not allowed. These fellows represent my company, as well as themselves, when dealing with customers. Yes, I know the industry has changed, but the idea of showing professionalism, to me, is very important. One gentleman who was supposed to have five years experience did not show me very much. Especially since my drivers test includes backing up into several docks with different approaches to each. I won't hire steering wheel holders. So, my expansion plan is on hold. I originally had the desire to have six rigs in the fleet. Five is the ideal amount to operate for a basic company, without the owner also being a driver. However, I have enough income with Social Securiy, my retirement account, and military disability stipend, that I don't pay myself from the "side" business. My ultimate goal is to leave the business to my nephew, once I meet the Great Dispatcher in the sky. All I need to do is find drivers who qualify to my standards."

Professionalism seems to be lost in the masses! With the dumbing down of the education system, flip flops are most likely the only type of shoe that the modern driver can wear! Figuring out how to tie a shoe would rank up there with figuring out why a 13'6" trailer will not fit beneath at 12' bridge! I am sorry to say, these are different times and finding a true truck driver is a thing of the past! If you do find one, you need to make sure he or she stays!

Once again, Jerry, nice cabover!

Replied on Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:55 AM CST

Ed, your comments would be funny, if, unfortunately, they were not true. Thanks for the compliment. When I first saw that paint combination at my local Freightliner dealership, I fell in love. I ended up going through two Freightshakers and a K-100 with that scheme. I wanted to have our Stars painted like this; however, I made a deal with my nephew that I'd spec out the tractor and he could choose the paint. His favorite combination is two toned bright red and white. That's what he prefers for company colors. Oh well!

Replied on Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 08:48 AM CST
Quote: "I am now having mixed emotions on increasing my fleet. I was planning on buying my third one and interviewed a couple of men, one to run team with my nephew, until the new rig arrived. Gentlemen, you may have no idea how they came dressed for the interview. I've purchased uniform shirts and jackets for my men. Flip flops are certainly not allowed. These fellows represent my company, as well as themselves, when dealing with customers. Yes, I know the industry has changed, but the idea of showing professionalism, to me, is very important. One gentleman who was supposed to have five years experience did not show me very much. Especially since my drivers test includes backing up into several docks with different approaches to each. I won't hire steering wheel holders. So, my expansion plan is on hold. I originally had the desire to have six rigs in the fleet. Five is the ideal amount to operate for a basic company, without the owner also being a driver. However, I have enough income with Social Securiy, my retirement account, and military disability stipend, that I don't pay myself from the "side" business. My ultimate goal is to leave the business to my nephew, once I meet the Great Dispatcher in the sky. All I need to do is find drivers who qualify to my standards."

You are in Illinois? Dillon transport is in Illinois? Now defunct as of the other day, therefore you now have a new pool of hundreds of drivers to recruit from, those drivers are looking to hire a new business agent, can you negotiate a better deal for them than their former agent? Hundreds of experienced bulk haulers now seeking someone to represent their services to the shippers.
Replied on Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 10:58 AM CST

Us farm kids started driving as toddlers...I was hauling hogs in a straight truck at age 14... Right down 36 highway across N.MIssouri, never once pulled across that scale house..I did this about every 10 days as my Grandpa, Dad and Great Uncle raised pasture hogs...My Grandaddy's shotgun is locked in a closet and it never shot a thing that could have lived..Dead, Fat or Rich nobodies left to bitch about the goings on in Self Destructive Zones..

Replied on Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 06:23 AM CST

Yes, Dave, I just learned that. Thanks for the tip.

Replied on Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 06:24 AM CST
Quote: "I am now having mixed emotions on increasing my fleet. I was planning on buying my third one and interviewed a couple of men, one to run team with my nephew, until the new rig arrived. Gentlemen, you may have no idea how they came dressed for the interview. I've purchased uniform shirts and jackets for my men. Flip flops are certainly not allowed. These fellows represent my company, as well as themselves, when dealing with customers. Yes, I know the industry has changed, but the idea of showing professionalism, to me, is very important. One gentleman who was supposed to have five years experience did not show me very much. Especially since my drivers test includes backing up into several docks with different approaches to each. I won't hire steering wheel holders. So, my expansion plan is on hold. I originally had the desire to have six rigs in the fleet. Five is the ideal amount to operate for a basic company, without the owner also being a driver. However, I have enough income with Social Securiy, my retirement account, and military disability stipend, that I don't pay myself from the "side" business. My ultimate goal is to leave the business to my nephew, once I meet the Great Dispatcher in the sky. All I need to do is find drivers who qualify to my standards."

So you don't make enough in your business to pay yourself? It's amazing what people will sacrifice just to tell everyone they own a trucking company.
Replied on Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 06:24 AM CST
Quote: "The companies that are shedding the most employees are the ones mandating Vaccines and/or working folks to the bone. Folks aren't taking the Vaccines because nobody really knows what is in those things. If anyone speaks out against them. It is as if they commited blasphemy. Employers that think folks are just going to take a random drug so they can keep their job. Are in for a rude awakening. "Show us your covid vaccine papers". Are we in a time machine here, anyone?"

Government would prefer that everyone just do what their told, and not ask questions about why, because folks start discussions about it, it may become obvious it was a biological attack, and the public would demand a military response, well what would the supply look like after that? Wealthy investors on wall street would loose billions, as those overseas factories were permanently destroyed.
Replied on Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 06:25 AM CST
Quote: "Does anyone hire out of Georgia?"

What exactly are you looking for
Replied on Sun, Sep 05, 2021 at 06:56 PM CST
Quote: "So you don't make enough in your business to pay yourself? It's amazing what people will sacrifice just to tell everyone they own a trucking company."

Wrong! Since I live comfortably with my personal income, I have chosen to reinvest what I could earn with the trucking side back into the business.

Replied on Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 09:31 AM CST
Quote: "The optimum word here is DRIVERS! You can hire a steering wheel holder to make your truck down the road and tear up your equipment but to find a true truck driver is rare! Drivers today, coming out of schools and running with a trainer who is most likely as green as the recruit, are not taught the things a driver needs to know! I was taught to drive by my older brother when I was 14 years old. He put me behind the wheel of his 1972 freightliner cabover and I drove. He shifted the gears but I ran the peddles and steared! It was a proud day, after we stopped bouncing from the touchy foot feed on the big cam 400 cummins! Good times! He took me with when I could get away from school and taught me how to respect the truck and make it work for you, not just mash the gas and tear up the equipment! We need the more "Old School" instructors out there instead of book smart, common sense poor! Good ole days! God I would like to go back! I am 55 years old and have been in this industry since I was 19. At this stage in life, my "give a damn" is busted and I zero f***s left to give. The drivers of today are not worth a damn and I can see a push to go to driverless trucks in the future."

Must have been a replacement motor. If my memory serves me right the big cam motors weren't out in '72

Replied on Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 01:42 PM CST

Had big cams in each of these. '78 ('79 year)) for my 1st Freight shaker, '82 for the second one, and Big Cam III in my K-100 in 85. Had great success with all of them. Of course, I had a good mechanic that went over them weekly on the contracts I ran.

Replied on Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 09:51 AM CST
Meanwhile across the nation school bus drivers are walking off the job, and flipping their middle finger at the government, last night it was reported on our local news that the metro bus will now be picking up the children instead, that is until they walk off the job too. I Think I hear the beetles singing something about a revolution on the radio?
Replied on Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 12:45 PM CST
Quote: "Must have been a replacement motor. If my memory serves me right the big cam motors weren't out in '72"

Possible? My brother bought his first truck from the original owner, Ernie Anderson. He had the truck on with IT. That's why it was yellow with green stripes. I remember the truck well! He drove the wheels off of that truck! Good memories!

Keith

ET Trucking.

Replied on Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:29 PM CST
Quote: "Had big cams in each of these. '78 ('79 year)) for my 1st Freight shaker, '82 for the second one, and Big Cam III in my K-100 in 85. Had great success with all of them. Of course, I had a good mechanic that went over them weekly on the contracts I ran."

My first and only truck I owned was a 1984 Freightliner cabover. It was and old TBI (Thompson Brothers) out of Fargo Nd. 350 cummins, direct drive 9 speed, no jakes, center point steering, spring ride suspension and air ride cab. I put 700,000 miles on in 5 years. It was no record but not bad. The truck ran all over the country and the only time it came in on a hook was when I hit a snow drift that was about as tall as the truck. Those old Cummins motors were good as long as your replaced the bearings about every 250,000 miles. Only downfall was I would set the idle with the rod and wing nut on the foot feed and by the time I would get back in the bunk it would either be at 800 rpm or 1400! Drivers of today have no idea what we drove years ago! Funny part is, the ones that came before us said the same thing about us! I have driven a lot of different trucks with various transmissions and I would venture to say that the driver of today would be totally lost trying to drive some of the trucks I drove, and I am by no means the best driver out there! I'm ok, but some of the old timers could and probably will still drive circles around me!

Keith

ET Trucking.