Tendom VS Tridom

Dec 20, 2018 at 06:52 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Running in ND SD MN IW NE KS I got a tendom thinking on changing over to tridom would it be worth it on bulk? Dealing with all the permits?

Replied on Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I would first take 4 or 5 months of your hauling you do now and figure out what a tandem load pays and a triaxle pays. Permits for the states you listed range from 60.00 to 500.00 per year. You will have have 4 more tires to buy if not running super singles, and your fuel mileage will be .5 to 1 mile a gallon less. Most states won't let you run the interstates over 80,000, but some states have permits you can buy. I bought a tandem a couple years ago and I was trying to see if a triple was worth it. What I do it wasn't worth all the hassle. I can run anywhere I need to if things get slow in one area.

Replied on Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 12:23 PM CST

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I would first take 4 or 5 months of your hauling you do now and figure out what a tandem load pays and a triaxle pays. Permits for the states you listed range from 60.00 to 500.00 per year. You will have have 4 more tires to buy if not running super singles, and your fuel mileage will be .5 to 1 mile a gallon less. Most states won't let you run the interstates over 80,000, but some states have permits you can buy. I bought a tandem a couple years ago and I was trying to see if a triple was worth it. What I do it wasn't worth all the hassle. I can run anywhere I need to if things get slow in one area.

Replied on Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 02:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. spread might be worth the extra thought as well

Replied on Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 04:40 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "spread might be worth the extra thought as well" I agree with Donald on a spread. Weigh 86k in most of those states, still be light enough to get a decent payload in states that you can't go over 80k. I'm almost 31000 empty with my tri ax. I'm 28 with my spread

Replied on Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 07:16 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. wish I could say that I was that light but I can still scale 88000 with a spread in most states However it's also 1000 lbs heavier then a 43 ft tandem

Replied on Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 10:56 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. You would be foolish not to be running a triple in the states you have listed. Depending upon what you have for truck and what you can buy for a trailer you can get light. We run some older timpte trailers and we Tate 30-32k depending upon the truck. These guys claiming 88,000 with spreads are full of shit. 12 steer 34 drive and 40 on you spread how does that add up?? A triple is a lot more forgiving and gives you a hell of a lot more flexibility especially in the dakotas where they love their bridge formulas. In the end it all boils down to what works for you but from where you say you run a triple makes more sense to me.

Replied on Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 10:56 AM CST

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You would be foolish not to be running a triple in the states you have listed. Depending upon what you have for truck and what you can buy for a trailer you can get light. We run some older timpte trailers and we Tate 30-32k depending upon the truck. These guys claiming 88,000 with spreads are full of shit. 12 steer 34 drive and 40 on you spread how does that add up?? A triple is a lot more forgiving and gives you a hell of a lot more flexibility especially in the dakotas where they love their bridge formulas. In the end it all boils down to what works for you but from where you say you run a triple makes more sense to me.

Replied on Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 06:21 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "You would be foolish not to be running a triple in the states you have listed. Depending upon what you have for truck and what you can buy for a trailer you can get light. We run some older timpte trailers and we Tate 30-32k depending upon the truck. These guys claiming 88,000 with spreads are full of shit. 12 steer 34 drive and 40 on you spread how does that add up?? A triple is a lot more forgiving and gives you a hell of a lot more flexibility especially in the dakotas where they love their bridge formulas. In the end it all boils down to what works for you but from where you say you run a triple makes more sense to me." Nobody is full of crap. If you have a pusher on the tractor 88 is no problem. I've also rolled over a scale at 87200 with my spread, i don't have a pusher, no problem. They have an allowance for a spread. I think I was 41 something on the spread. And unless you have a super short wheel base and skinny little steers you can put 13000 up front

Replied on Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 06:21 AM CST

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Quote: "You would be foolish not to be running a triple in the states you have listed. Depending upon what you have for truck and what you can buy for a trailer you can get light. We run some older timpte trailers and we Tate 30-32k depending upon the truck. These guys claiming 88,000 with spreads are full of shit. 12 steer 34 drive and 40 on you spread how does that add up?? A triple is a lot more forgiving and gives you a hell of a lot more flexibility especially in the dakotas where they love their bridge formulas. In the end it all boils down to what works for you but from where you say you run a triple makes more sense to me."

Nobody is full of crap. If you have a pusher on the tractor 88 is no problem. I've also rolled over a scale at 87200 with my spread, i don't have a pusher, no problem. They have an allowance for a spread. I think I was 41 something on the spread. And unless you have a super short wheel base and skinny little steers you can put 13000 up front

Replied on Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 08:08 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Nobody is full of crap. If you have a pusher on the tractor 88 is no problem. I've also rolled over a scale at 87200 with my spread, i don't have a pusher, no problem. They have an allowance for a spread. I think I was 41 something on the spread. And unless you have a super short wheel base and skinny little steers you can put 13000 up front" agreed ....I have a 15000lbs front axle no pusher axle and a spread that's how I do it however my empty weight is 33500 most of the time lightest I can get is 32700 and that's on fumes....and if ur registered for it and have tires for it depending on the officer and where u are they let u roll with it

Replied on Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 08:08 AM CST

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Quote: "Nobody is full of crap. If you have a pusher on the tractor 88 is no problem. I've also rolled over a scale at 87200 with my spread, i don't have a pusher, no problem. They have an allowance for a spread. I think I was 41 something on the spread. And unless you have a super short wheel base and skinny little steers you can put 13000 up front"

agreed ....I have a 15000lbs front axle no pusher axle and a spread that's how I do it however my empty weight is 33500 most of the time lightest I can get is 32700 and that's on fumes....and if ur registered for it and have tires for it depending on the officer and where u are they let u roll with it

Replied on Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Had a spread for years. Couple years ago went back to a closed tandem. Best thing I did. Empty weight went down, fuel milage went up, load pulls easier, and trailer is less expensive. I personally don't think it is worth the hassle for the few extra pounds you can haul. And I don't have to worry about where I can drive or how much I can haul in this state or that state. My goal is to make money not see how much more I can carry then everyone else. But always have those guys that brag how many bushels they can haul compared to me.

Replied on Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Had a spread for years. Couple years ago went back to a closed tandem. Best thing I did. Empty weight went down, fuel milage went up, load pulls easier, and trailer is less expensive. I personally don't think it is worth the hassle for the few extra pounds you can haul. And I don't have to worry about where I can drive or how much I can haul in this state or that state. My goal is to make money not see how much more I can carry then everyone else. But always have those guys that brag how many bushels they can haul compared to me.

Replied on Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Had a spread for years. Couple years ago went back to a closed tandem. Best thing I did. Empty weight went down, fuel milage went up, load pulls easier, and trailer is less expensive. I personally don't think it is worth the hassle for the few extra pounds you can haul. And I don't have to worry about where I can drive or how much I can haul in this state or that state. My goal is to make money not see how much more I can carry then everyone else. But always have those guys that brag how many bushels they can haul compared to me. " im with you on this. i had a triple and ran mostly mn, sd, nd and ia. got shit fuel mileage. paid $13000 more for the triple. and places want you to haul cheaper cuz you can haul more. the state of Minnesota looks for guys with 6 or 7 axles. if you're 20 pounds over your permitted weight you get a ticket for having a permitted load without a valid permit. im back pulling a tandem and will never buy another triple.

Replied on Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 08:49 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Had a spread for years. Couple years ago went back to a closed tandem. Best thing I did. Empty weight went down, fuel milage went up, load pulls easier, and trailer is less expensive. I personally don't think it is worth the hassle for the few extra pounds you can haul. And I don't have to worry about where I can drive or how much I can haul in this state or that state. My goal is to make money not see how much more I can carry then everyone else. But always have those guys that brag how many bushels they can haul compared to me. "

im with you on this. i had a triple and ran mostly mn, sd, nd and ia. got shit fuel mileage. paid $13000 more for the triple. and places want you to haul cheaper cuz you can haul more. the state of Minnesota looks for guys with 6 or 7 axles. if you're 20 pounds over your permitted weight you get a ticket for having a permitted load without a valid permit. im back pulling a tandem and will never buy another triple.