drive tires

Nov 01, 2014 at 08:08 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. i am thinking about putting a set of straight tread drive tires on one of our trucks. straight tread meaning steer tire type tread pattern. this truck never leaves the pavement ever so i do not need anything aggressive. just looking for a tire that doesnt throw rocks so bad. has anyone ever ran a set of straight tread drives? good or bad luck? thanks

Replied on Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 10:56 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Commonly called highway treads. All of the big boys use them.. Schneider, swift, hunt.. Etc. They say that you will get better fuel economy..they claim less rolling resistance Terrible in slick road conditions. And will run warmer than lug type as the air can't disapate off as fast. And no you won't get the rock ejection like a lug type.. But you can still capture small stones. And rock drilling.

Replied on Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 10:56 AM CST

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Commonly called highway treads. All of the big boys use them.. Schneider, swift, hunt.. Etc. They say that you will get better fuel economy..they claim less rolling resistance Terrible in slick road conditions. And will run warmer than lug type as the air can't disapate off as fast. And no you won't get the rock ejection like a lug type.. But you can still capture small stones. And rock drilling.

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 06:58 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Like Jeff said, terrible in slick conditions. Don't last as long, we could not see enough fuel savings to offset the cost of the tires. But they don't pick up rocks so if that is what you are running them for then they will work.

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 08:44 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Been running them on the drive for years, even when I was hauling grain. Didn't seem to make a lot of difference. If you are in mud or snow, after the first revolution the tread fills up and you are basically running a slick tire no matter what the tread is.

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 08:31 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. i kind of thought they might actually last a lot longer, but i could be wrong. we dont go off road ever so i dont need mud tires. we run fiberglass rear fenders and luggy type tires through rocks so dang bad and then they spider web the paint on the fenders

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 10:11 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. My dad used to run his old steers on his Pete when he was hauling glass. He said he would get about two years out of the steers when he moved them to the drives. Said the truck rode better but he basically stayed on asphalt all the time, so he really don't know about the traction on the dirt or gravel. He did tell me that if there was to much snow then it would get loose, but other then that no problems. I was talking about the soft rubber comp tires earlier when I said they did not last very long for the money. If you want to protect the fenders then line them with sheet metal, this may solve your cracking issue.

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 10:11 PM CST

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My dad used to run his old steers on his Pete when he was hauling glass. He said he would get about two years out of the steers when he moved them to the drives. Said the truck rode better but he basically stayed on asphalt all the time, so he really don't know about the traction on the dirt or gravel. He did tell me that if there was to much snow then it would get loose, but other then that no problems.

I was talking about the soft rubber comp tires earlier when I said they did not last very long for the money.

If you want to protect the fenders then line them with sheet metal, this may solve your cracking issue.

Replied on Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 10:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I pull reefer with a 42" pin so I have trailer above my drives. I run aluminum quarter fenders on the truck. I haul eggs directly off the farm and even in the winter, I don't have any worse problems than the guys who run the deeper lug tread. It is all a matter of preference. The guys running super singles are basically running straight tread.

Replied on Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 03:54 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have used all position tires all the way around for years on our 5 trucks. In my area if I'm replacing 8 drive tires at a time I'll save somewhere around $500 by going all position vs lug. The all position is easier to keep true and balanced plus they run at least 20% longer than a lug tire and we gain about .2 to .3 mpg on fuel. I can't tell any difference in traction at all.

Replied on Wed, Nov 05, 2014 at 03:54 PM CST

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I have used all position tires all the way around for years on our 5 trucks. In my area if I'm replacing 8 drive tires at a time I'll save somewhere around $500 by going all position vs lug. The all position is easier to keep true and balanced plus they run at least 20% longer than a lug tire and we gain about .2 to .3 mpg on fuel. I can't tell any difference in traction at all.

Replied on Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Spray the inside of your feenders with spray on bed liner and they won't star

Replied on Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 09:42 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Where are you picking up all the rocks if your never off the pavement? I run really aggressive tires as I'm off road a lot so I put fenders over my rear axles and now never throw mud or rocks.

Replied on Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Are you seriously going to argue with me about where I pick up rocks in my tires? Really....

Replied on Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 05:29 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. You can do a lot with less than $100 in tools. You can get a simple grooving iron and a siping tool. With these you can make tires do more than you think. If you don't know much about working with the stuff let me know and I will do what I can, but if you really want to know about what a tire can do get in touch with your local dirt track racers. You can take away more rubber than you think without giving up durability. Sorry about spelling Art Pfluger

Replied on Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 05:29 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

You can do a lot with less than $100 in tools. You can get a simple grooving iron and a siping tool. With these you can make tires do more than you think. If you don't know much about working with the stuff let me know and I will do what I can, but if you really want to know about what a tire can do get in touch with your local dirt track racers. You can take away more rubber than you think without giving up durability.

Sorry about spelling

Art Pfluger

Replied on Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 05:42 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Always ran steer tread at 18 positions..You'll like the way they run&increased fuel mileage...Just have to go a bit slower on wet on/off ramps..Good luck.

Replied on Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:40 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've ran all position tires all around. They last longer, have more rubber on the road which I prefer on pavement. I like being able to transfer my drive tires to the steer position and the steers to drive position. Steer tires will wear better if they are run in the drive position for a while then put on the steer axle. Also if a steer tire starts to wear uneven it can be rotated to a drive position to get more tire life. I have also seen better fuel economy with all position tires on the drive axles. They run quieter as well. The last time I put tires on the drive position I used some Good Year drives but when they have to be replaced I will be going back to all position tires. Using the same tire on all 18 wheels.

Replied on Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:40 PM CST

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I've ran all position tires all around. They last longer, have more rubber on the road which I prefer on pavement.

I like being able to transfer my drive tires to the steer position and the steers to drive position. Steer tires will wear better if they are run in the drive position for a while then put on the steer axle. Also if a steer tire starts to wear uneven it can be rotated to a drive position to get more tire life.

I have also seen better fuel economy with all position tires on the drive axles. They run quieter as well. The last time I put tires on the drive position I used some Good Year drives but when they have to be replaced I will be going back to all position tires. Using the same tire on all 18 wheels.

Replied on Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 01:22 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I've ran all position tires all around. They last longer, have more rubber on the road which I prefer on pavement. I like being able to transfer my drive tires to the steer position and the steers to drive position. Steer tires will wear better if they are run in the drive position for a while then put on the steer axle. Also if a steer tire starts to wear uneven it can be rotated to a drive position to get more tire life. I have also seen better fuel economy with all position tires on the drive axles. They run quieter as well. The last time I put tires on the drive position I used some Good Year drives but when they have to be replaced I will be going back to all position tires. Using the same tire on all 18 wheels." The company i am leased to runs michelin energy tires on the drives and they do great in all conditions. The lugs are just a little tighter spaced and the outside collar is open and they don't throw the rocks like bf goodrich lug tires i used to have.

Replied on Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 01:22 PM CST

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Quote: "I've ran all position tires all around. They last longer, have more rubber on the road which I prefer on pavement. I like being able to transfer my drive tires to the steer position and the steers to drive position. Steer tires will wear better if they are run in the drive position for a while then put on the steer axle. Also if a steer tire starts to wear uneven it can be rotated to a drive position to get more tire life. I have also seen better fuel economy with all position tires on the drive axles. They run quieter as well. The last time I put tires on the drive position I used some Good Year drives but when they have to be replaced I will be going back to all position tires. Using the same tire on all 18 wheels."

The company i am leased to runs michelin energy tires on the drives and they do great in all conditions. The lugs are just a little tighter spaced and the outside collar is open and they don't throw the rocks like bf goodrich lug tires i used to have.

Replied on Mon, Dec 01, 2014 at 12:16 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Michelein xza3+ is an excellent all position tire,but Bridgestone m 710 ecopia's has a lower rolling resistance a dis a lug