Belly Dumps/End Dumps: Round Trip--Rate Discussion

Don't know about you but miles are miles loaded or not cost same to run truck and paid by hr is OK for downtime but my truck cost 65 a hr to hold cuz that's the average it can make on the low side hope that helps

My personal opinion, if the truck is paid 65.00/hour on empty miles, that is breaking even at best. I cannot in good faith ask a truck to break even! I am not the broker on these loads right now either, rather, gaining an understanding to forward to the customer, too. I would think 85.00/hour on empty miles would be fair? I don't think he should be paying more than 115.00/hour for loaded miles, regardless of the circumstances. I appreciate the serious nature of this conversation as it appears, those who have posted in return are also learning something :)

Looking forward to more posts on this,

Matthew

Here in Oklahoma we have charged $100 to $120 per hr for as long as I can remember. It's a fair amount because if you try to break it down by the ton and make money it's a losing game on both ends .tell your friend if he don't want to pay the money don't play the game. It's just that simple. Quit trying to figure out how to screw us truckers over

Try loadslocal I think that website is for end dump work and construction I don't know much about it but you can check it out

Realistically it boils down to exactly what you are doing for the customer. I'm not familiar with weight laws out there but it cost much more to operate a truck pulling 60 tons then it does pulling 30. If your running loads to a site then coming back empty and reloading 65 to 100 an hour is not out of the question. I have dedicated accounts similiar to that in michigan that pay a flat rate of 65 per hour weather i'm hauling 1lb or 100,000lbs. In most cases it works out to be very lucrative because it is consistant work and pays very fast. I also have accounts where i'm pulling 100,000 all day long that pay more because I'm burning much more fuel so on and so on. The equipment you need per job is going to vary but there is ways to make money and stay competitive either way. To those saying 200 per hour if you can make it get it. I run Michigan super trains at a profit and am not getting anything close to that rate. A customer that will keep you busy and pay for the time you are not is gold. On spot loads the higher rates are by no means out of the question. You don't want to get greedy because there is a million companys that are paying their drivers pennys that will slit your throat to get accounts like that. Fairness goes a long way

We run average of 30 aggregate trucks being sides, bellys and end dumps, I perfer to run by ton, get paid for what you do. Rates depend on Davis-Bacon wages, material hauled, and distance traveled. Goals are $110 per hour with average of 26.5 ton loads. Season for the big push is around 7 months however we run year round with 50% of fleet, mainly sides. So we watch start times, end times on hourly jobs ALWAYS get paid back to where you started. If you haul on hourly job all day and don't get paid back to where you started you just hauled last load for half price.

Phil Kilichowski

I'm in the bakken and run several gravel trucks, we charge 125.00 per hour that is pit to pit plus 1 hour travel time, most of the hourly work is road work or doing repair work on the drilling locations, most all the work we do is building drilling locations and it is all by the ton which the rates varie depending on length of haul, I prefer hauling by the ton, we just got done with one location and averaged 190.00 an hour, and another location we averaged 130.00 an hour, if your not making at least 120.00 an hour your working to cheap in the bakken.

I run alot of end dumps and tandem dumps around the dallas area we bid the job by round trip loaded or empty same price