hauling DDGs in hopper

Jun 10, 2015 at 08:46 AM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Is a standard height 42 ft tempte hopper too small to haul DDGs ?

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:59 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Ag hoppers or standard hoppers?

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:42 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Unless you can 25 to 26 ton. You can not make rate. 66 side is not tall enough.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 02:53 PM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Unless you can 25 to 26 ton. You can not make rate. 66 side is not tall enough. " Umm... I borrowed a buddy's 66 with big doors and got 27.5 ton every time. Just saying

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 07:20 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Well I have a 42' timpte with 78" by 96" with big doors and can barley get 26 ton. There is no way with 66" in sides to get a full load. I haul ddgs everyday. With 26 ton I am full front to back.

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 07:42 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have found the same in the past but all ddg plants are different. As some come out dry and some sticky some

Replied on Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 08:29 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Well jason. On average it is impossible to get 27.5 ton. And with 66" sides they will not be able to even get 25 ton. I haul alot of ddgs everyday from many different plants and someone with a small trl. Will never get a full load. The first guy asked if he could get a full load with 66" sides then answer is no.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 07:27 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Why is it when someone says they hauled DDGs somebody else says there is no way he could have done it that way

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:52 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have a 1999 Wilson 40'x66"x96" trailer and have hauled DDGs from 3 or 4 plants (I rarely load them). I have never loaded more than 23 ton(some as little as 21), and that was running it over every corner and piling it above the bows a foot. In other numbers, my trailer has a 1300bu capacity I think. Hope that helps.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:29 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We have 50' x78"x 96' big traps, load of DDG today was 24.5 ton last week one load of DDG was 23 ton both those loads were out of the same plant. Another plant last week was 27.5 ton. So not saying you cant get a full load but i am not sure what plant you would need to load out of. York, NE and Fairmont, NE have been the heaviest, however its seams to take more then twice as long to unload.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 06:29 PM CST

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We have 50' x78"x 96' big traps, load of DDG today was 24.5 ton last week one load of DDG was 23 ton both those loads were out of the same plant. Another plant last week was 27.5 ton. So not saying you cant get a full load but i am not sure what plant you would need to load out of. York, NE and Fairmont, NE have been the heaviest, however its seams to take more then twice as long to unload.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 07:00 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Never hauled ddg, but with a 1995 40x66x96 timpte with the big tub. We could get usually 22.5-23 ton of fuzzy cotton seed. Hauled soybean meal and chicken meal. Never had a problem getting 24 ton. Some times on the cotton seed we could only get 20-21 ton. If the rate per ton was right we still made money. If not we just kept hauling grain. Saved up and got what I paid for the 95 in trade on a new 42x78x96 timpte. We still don't run for free and the driver doesn't have to get on top and "walk it" down.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 07:00 PM CST

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Never hauled ddg, but with a 1995 40x66x96 timpte with the big tub. We could get usually 22.5-23 ton of fuzzy cotton seed. Hauled soybean meal and chicken meal. Never had a problem getting 24 ton. Some times on the cotton seed we could only get 20-21 ton. If the rate per ton was right we still made money. If not we just kept hauling grain. Saved up and got what I paid for the 95 in trade on a new 42x78x96 timpte. We still don't run for free and the driver doesn't have to get on top and "walk it" down.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 08:22 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Well i haul DDG every week out of neb. Ive got a timpte 50x96x78 with High Flow doors and the least amout i've ever got on was 27.5 ton.And that was with a payloader loading it. Other wise i cant get 29.5 ton most of the time. And I've hauled almost all of them in neb and eastern SD. Never really had any problem getting weight on. But a 66 inch side is way to short. And stay away from ag doors to other wise you'll be at it awhile unloading it. And youll never get any weight on eaither. Good luck to you.

Replied on Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 08:22 PM CST

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Well i haul DDG every week out of neb. Ive got a timpte 50x96x78 with High Flow doors and the least amout i've ever got on was 27.5 ton.And that was with a payloader loading it. Other wise i cant get 29.5 ton most of the time. And I've hauled almost all of them in neb and eastern SD. Never really had any problem getting weight on. But a 66 inch side is way to short. And stay away from ag doors to other wise you'll be at it awhile unloading it. And youll never get any weight on eaither. Good luck to you.

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 08:16 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. On our 43'x66"x96" with regular hoppers we get 25 ton, filled front to back and not above the bows (not sure if it axles out right, we have lift axles on our trucks so we don't worry about DOT bothering us). As everyone said, it will vary depending on the day, the plant, and the person loading it. I would suggest making sure it pays enough and then just trying it, there are too many variables to rely solely off the advice from others. Good Luck

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 08:16 AM CST

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On our 43'x66"x96" with regular hoppers we get 25 ton, filled front to back and not above the bows (not sure if it axles out right, we have lift axles on our trucks so we don't worry about DOT bothering us). As everyone said, it will vary depending on the day, the plant, and the person loading it. I would suggest making sure it pays enough and then just trying it, there are too many variables to rely solely off the advice from others. Good Luck

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:03 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I'm on board with you. I have a 50 x 96 x 72 w/ Ag hoppers and can scale at least 30 ton consistantly from ND plants. The problem is getting the crap out in the summertime, sets up like a block and on overnight hauls it can be a 2-3 hour ordeal getting it out.

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 10:08 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. ^^ We also have 2 of those trailers and some places around here we can get 31 tons and other places we can only get 27-28.

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:29 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I haul ddg all the time. Not sire how deep hopper is nut I think 96 " as it is a lot taller than I can reach up to the bows. Filled front to back I can get 27 most of time but have had come out to 25 with really dry stuff. can only axle 25 . What is difference of agg and standard hopper?

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:39 PM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "On our 43'x66"x96" with regular hoppers we get 25 ton, filled front to back and not above the bows (not sure if it axles out right, we have lift axles on our trucks so we don't worry about DOT bothering us). As everyone said, it will vary depending on the day, the plant, and the person loading it. I would suggest making sure it pays enough and then just trying it, there are too many variables to rely solely off the advice from others. Good Luck" Good Advice, as each and every truck, trailer, and product is different. You will have to take your rig, load it up and get the answer for yourself. Some guys could get more and some guys will get less.

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 12:39 PM CST

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Quote: "On our 43'x66"x96" with regular hoppers we get 25 ton, filled front to back and not above the bows (not sure if it axles out right, we have lift axles on our trucks so we don't worry about DOT bothering us). As everyone said, it will vary depending on the day, the plant, and the person loading it. I would suggest making sure it pays enough and then just trying it, there are too many variables to rely solely off the advice from others. Good Luck"

Good Advice, as each and every truck, trailer, and product is different. You will have to take your rig, load it up and get the answer for yourself. Some guys could get more and some guys will get less.

Replied on Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 06:38 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The density does vary between facilities. I used to get 26 tons on a 66 inch trailer at GPC Muscatine Iowa if I raked the piles down.

Replied on Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 03:36 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. An AG Hopper is less shallow inside the trailer with a smaller door opening. It is designed for more clearence under the hopper to allow trailer not to drag when going into fields, etc and easier to unload over a swing out auger at farm sites. Works fine with grain, but need more room in trailer for commodities that are lighter like Midds, DDG etc. The larger door openings allow easier unloading of products that don't flow well, like DDGs.

Replied on Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 03:36 PM CST

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An AG Hopper is less shallow inside the trailer with a smaller door opening. It is designed for more clearence under the hopper to allow trailer not to drag when going into fields, etc and easier to unload over a swing out auger at farm sites. Works fine with grain, but need more room in trailer for commodities that are lighter like Midds, DDG etc. The larger door openings allow easier unloading of products that don't flow well, like DDGs.

Replied on Tue, Jun 16, 2015 at 06:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have an 2005 Wilson Ultra Light 43'x78"x96" with Ag hoppers and I can get 26.5 ton

Replied on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 12:36 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. when are the americans going to start using super b trucks down there? 42 ton plus trucks, not tridems, just wondering if they are thinking about it.

Replied on Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 06:53 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Ado you have the air vibrators on your hopper?