LOW ROLLING RESISTANCE STEER TIRE...?

Jun 02, 2014 at 10:01 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. What is a good model/brand steer tire with low rolling resistance? The truck tire size is 11R22.5 and the truck is a 2001 FLD64 Freightliner and we haul roughly 80,000lbs to 85,000lbs? Thank You in Advance!!

Replied on Thu, Jun 05, 2014 at 01:44 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. yokahoma ry617 the best and the Bfg st244. I pull a bucket and run the st244 great wear and a low rr

Replied on Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 06:41 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We had trouble with stone drilling in the Yokohama tires. We run the B F Goodrich stuff and have great luck with them. Not real up on the rolling resistance. Pay more attention to what lasts and is trouble free. Art Pfluger

Replied on Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 03:29 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Yoke 617 junk.

Replied on Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:15 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Pay more attention to what lasts? I know thats important but if you know anything about fuel milage you should understand rolling resistance. I had some generals with 140 resistance and switched to 90 resistance Michelin and gained 4 tenths average mpg.That equates to over $4000 a year savings just on drives.Nothing personal but it pisses me off to here truckers bitch about rates, but there to stupid to know how much they're losing with bad fuel economy.I also gained .3 tenths with micro blue wheel bearings,.2 tenths with fleet air filter,.8 tenths buy slowing from 70 to 62mph.All giving me an extra $18000 to my bottom line every year.I track every tank all year round so I know my numbers. Such a shame to see small trucking companies piss money down the drain just from ignorance. Hats off to the fellow looking for the low resistance steer tire.

Replied on Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 02:15 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Pay more attention to what lasts? I know thats important but if you know anything about fuel milage you should understand rolling resistance. I had some generals with 140 resistance and switched to 90 resistance Michelin and gained 4 tenths average mpg.That equates to over $4000 a year savings just on drives.Nothing personal but it pisses me off to here truckers bitch about rates, but there to stupid to know how much they're losing with bad fuel economy.I also gained .3 tenths with micro blue wheel bearings,.2 tenths with fleet air filter,.8 tenths buy slowing from 70 to 62mph.All giving me an extra $18000 to my bottom line every year.I track every tank all year round so I know my numbers. Such a shame to see small trucking companies piss money down the drain just from ignorance. Hats off to the fellow looking for the low resistance steer tire.

Replied on Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 10:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Just about every highway tread tire is low resistant as competition requires it. . Nobody here has addressed tire pressure. You will loose any and more fuel savings with a tire that is low on air. You should check out nitrogen instead of air.. As it is a thicker gas and will not seep out of the tire as fast.. Then there is balancing.. And alignment.. Not only the tractor but also the trailer.. A not properly greased 5th wheel can and will pull the trailer out of alignment. Buy not letting it turn and properly correct to a straight position.. The wide track or super singles are more fuel economic as they don't have the foot print as a regular tire going down the road. Then it depends where you run, what type of diesel fuel you run, and as addressed before speed. I've hauled heavy. 9 axles.. 176000 lbs. you are lucky to get 3 mph loaded.. I've found that the best performing diesel from a chain is TA or Petro.. I won't tell you the worse.. But they are normally 2-3 cents a gallon cheaper.. Gee wonder why.. The best from any truck stop I found is that national TS in Vado, New Mexico.. Also if your primary fuel filter has a drain on the bottom... Tighten it up.. It won't leak but it will suck fuel... It will be about 3/4 of a turn just by hand .. Also run the largest filters that will fit as the fuel can move easier. Also the way that you start a truck from a dead stop will change your fuel economy.. Tires play an important part of fuel economy just from the DRAG on the ground.. Or the scraping of a bad elignment. But other things can play into the picture.. How about idle time.. Big killer.. Get a engine timer where the engine will turn off after X amount of minutes.. How many times do you go into the rest area, and think ohh I'm in and out.. Then run Into a friend.. Or get hung up at the port like in Wyoming.. Those idling minutes add up.. I put an APU on my truck and it told me that I had over 40_% idling time... That's free diesel...gone.. Plus the APU will burn about 1/4 the amount of the truck engine. Then there is winter fuel/ summer fuel.. Southern fuel .. Up north fuel... Or flat landers, mountains.. All makes fuel economy change.. So asking about low rolling tires.. That's only a very small part of fuel economy. Weight of loads, size of engine, wind..engine oil, transmition, and rear end oil.. So see there are many things that can and will change your fuel economy.. Even the trailer .. Outside ribs, smooth sides... It all adds up..some of you economy will be free.. Not being a lead foot, slowing down to at least 65 from 75.. Tighten that drain valve on your primary.. Some will be fairly inexpensive.. Buy better fuel.. Cost more to begin , but you get better power aka better fuel economy.. Some will be rather pricy as an APU.. But will pay for themselves in a couple of years or less. It just depends what you want to try to achieve.. And what you want to spend.. The best thing to do....don't haul cheap freight... So you don't really need to worry about saving a tenth or two tents of a gallon. Best of luck with your decisions... Jeff

Replied on Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 10:23 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Just about every highway tread tire is low resistant as competition requires it. . Nobody here has addressed tire pressure. You will loose any and more fuel savings with a tire that is low on air. You should check out nitrogen instead of air.. As it is a thicker gas and will not seep out of the tire as fast.. Then there is balancing.. And alignment.. Not only the tractor but also the trailer.. A not properly greased 5th wheel can and will pull the trailer out of alignment. Buy not letting it turn and properly correct to a straight position.. The wide track or super singles are more fuel economic as they don't have the foot print as a regular tire going down the road. Then it depends where you run, what type of diesel fuel you run, and as addressed before speed. I've hauled heavy. 9 axles.. 176000 lbs. you are lucky to get 3 mph loaded.. I've found that the best performing diesel from a chain is TA or Petro.. I won't tell you the worse.. But they are normally 2-3 cents a gallon cheaper.. Gee wonder why.. The best from any truck stop I found is that national TS in Vado, New Mexico.. Also if your primary fuel filter has a drain on the bottom... Tighten it up.. It won't leak but it will suck fuel... It will be about 3/4 of a turn just by hand .. Also run the largest filters that will fit as the fuel can move easier. Also the way that you start a truck from a dead stop will change your fuel economy.. Tires play an important part of fuel economy just from the DRAG on the ground.. Or the scraping of a bad elignment. But other things can play into the picture.. How about idle time.. Big killer.. Get a engine timer where the engine will turn off after X amount of minutes.. How many times do you go into the rest area, and think ohh I'm in and out.. Then run Into a friend.. Or get hung up at the port like in Wyoming.. Those idling minutes add up.. I put an APU on my truck and it told me that I had over 40_% idling time... That's free diesel...gone.. Plus the APU will burn about 1/4 the amount of the truck engine. Then there is winter fuel/ summer fuel.. Southern fuel .. Up north fuel... Or flat landers, mountains.. All makes fuel economy change.. So asking about low rolling tires.. That's only a very small part of fuel economy. Weight of loads, size of engine, wind..engine oil, transmition, and rear end oil.. So see there are many things that can and will change your fuel economy.. Even the trailer .. Outside ribs, smooth sides... It all adds up..some of you economy will be free.. Not being a lead foot, slowing down to at least 65 from 75.. Tighten that drain valve on your primary.. Some will be fairly inexpensive.. Buy better fuel.. Cost more to begin , but you get better power aka better fuel economy.. Some will be rather pricy as an APU.. But will pay for themselves in a couple of years or less. It just depends what you want to try to achieve.. And what you want to spend.. The best thing to do....don't haul cheap freight... So you don't really need to worry about saving a tenth or two tents of a gallon. Best of luck with your decisions... Jeff

Replied on Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:26 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I agree about the ta petro fuel. My point was if you combine all the little things that improve milage it really makes a difference in the end. Especially for small owner ops who like to complain about high fuel costs and "greedy" brokers. Im not aiming anything against you Jeff, but why do we see so many owner ops not running the operation like a business? I gain revenue every year just by getting educated on fuel economy, maintenance, accounting, rates/lanes, and negotiating skills.Instead you see guys more concerned about having pretty trucks with piss poor milage, and bitching about brokers.Personally I enjoy running a very efficient operation and negotiating great rates on hopper and reefer freight. If your not concerned about .2 tenths mpg thats fine but every little bit adds up.It just means you dont mind throwing out $2000 a year in revenue. Good milage with good rates equals a fantastic career.

Replied on Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 02:26 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I agree about the ta petro fuel. My point was if you combine all the little things that improve milage it really makes a difference in the end. Especially for small owner ops who like to complain about high fuel costs and "greedy" brokers. Im not aiming anything against you Jeff, but why do we see so many owner ops not running the operation like a business? I gain revenue every year just by getting educated on fuel economy, maintenance, accounting, rates/lanes, and negotiating skills.Instead you see guys more concerned about having pretty trucks with piss poor milage, and bitching about brokers.Personally I enjoy running a very efficient operation and negotiating great rates on hopper and reefer freight. If your not concerned about .2 tenths mpg thats fine but every little bit adds up.It just means you dont mind throwing out $2000 a year in revenue. Good milage with good rates equals a fantastic career.

Replied on Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 03:05 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hard to beat the st244

Replied on Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We run singles all the way around; for lighter weights, lower replacement expense, and fuel savings. We see up to .5 mpg increase going to singles. This is actually picked up in the fewer number of sidewalls you have running down the road (singles cut them in half.) The footprint of the tire is not necessarily what depicts your fuel savings. So, if you choose a very rigid sidewall tire you will optimize tire fuel efficiency. However, we run a mildly rigid single, mainly to give a little bit better of a ride. I know this post is referring to steer tires but just giving some advice on rolling resistance vs sidewall resistance. I was told this by my commercial tire supplier of 30 years. He has proven this through our fleet along with several things listed above, which is a long list. I'm a believer of the singles, just don't blow one out in the sand hills of South Dakota without a backup rubber on the truck!

Replied on Tue, Jun 10, 2014 at 08:26 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

We run singles all the way around; for lighter weights, lower replacement expense, and fuel savings. We see up to .5 mpg increase going to singles. This is actually picked up in the fewer number of sidewalls you have running down the road (singles cut them in half.) The footprint of the tire is not necessarily what depicts your fuel savings. So, if you choose a very rigid sidewall tire you will optimize tire fuel efficiency. However, we run a mildly rigid single, mainly to give a little bit better of a ride. I know this post is referring to steer tires but just giving some advice on rolling resistance vs sidewall resistance. I was told this by my commercial tire supplier of 30 years. He has proven this through our fleet along with several things listed above, which is a long list. I'm a believer of the singles, just don't blow one out in the sand hills of South Dakota without a backup rubber on the truck!

Replied on Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 09:11 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Thank You guys for all the wonderful help!!!