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{ "forumId": 23053, "postTypeId": 1, "postType": "Forum", "forumTitle": "COMMODITY SERVICES BS", "forumContent": "\n I see Commodity Services is still offering low rates. They have loads posted from NM to FL paying a whopping1.67/mi. I sincerely hope no one takes them up on this crap!!!\n", "forumContentHtml": " \r\nI see Commodity Services is still offering low rates. They have loads posted from NM to FL paying a whopping1.67/mi. I sincerely hope no one takes them up on this crap!!!<img alt=\"\" src=\"http://www.bulkloadsnow.com/Includes/ckeditor/plugins/smiley/images/angry_smile.gif\" title=\"\" /> ", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2011-04-21T18:34:05Z", "lastPost": "2011-04-21T18:34:05Z", "views": 2556, "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "messageCount": 17, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "commodity-services-bs", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/commodity-services-bs/", "userId": 2849, "firstName": "Debra", "lastName": "Miller", "companyName": "NOT IN BUSINESS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Inver Grove Heights", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 39, "userLikes": 57, "replies": [ { "replyId": 21080, "content": "All relative to area you are servicing.", "contentHtml": "All relative to area you are servicing.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-01", "dateAdded": "2011-04-22T17:59:29Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3226, "firstName": "MICHAEL", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "SCHWEND INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "DADE CITY", "state": "FL", "userCommentCount": 2, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28095, "content": "We run all areas, so how do you figure any different unless you forget to pay something somewhere along the line. Sooner or later all of us run for nearly the same cost, you can only rob Peter to pay Paul so long.", "contentHtml": "We run all areas, so how do you figure any different unless you forget to pay something somewhere along the line. Sooner or later all of us run for nearly the same cost, you can only rob Peter to pay Paul so long.", "parentReplyId": 21080, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-22T18:06:59Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21081, "content": "Wasn't Peter it was Debra. Customers dictate the rates and lowest will always win.", "contentHtml": "Wasn't Peter it was Debra. Customers dictate the rates and lowest will always win.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-01", "dateAdded": "2011-04-22T19:04:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3226, "firstName": "MICHAEL", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "SCHWEND INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "DADE CITY", "state": "FL", "userCommentCount": 2, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28096, "content": "Your right about the lowest, but if you can't find the trucks, the trucks will eventually get the rates up.", "contentHtml": "Your right about the lowest, but if you can't find the trucks, the trucks will eventually get the rates up.", "parentReplyId": 21081, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-22T19:29:01Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28927, "content": "It is supply and demand...This works in all other industry except trucking....We wish that this was true..that the cheap trucks would fade away....but there are always 50 to take their place of that 1 truck that went broke...Don't forget any moron can buy a truck and put fuel in it....they can get loads...but don't have a clue how much it costs to run...or they do things like run red fuel, steal it from other trucks, or just take short cuts....who really knows...but they have to be doing something illegal....It is just getting caught..", "contentHtml": "It is supply and demand...This works in all other industry except trucking....We wish that this was true..that the cheap trucks would fade away....but there are always 50 to take their place of that 1 truck that went broke...Don't forget any moron can buy a truck and put fuel in it....they can get loads...but don't have a clue how much it costs to run...or they do things like run red fuel, steal it from other trucks, or just take short cuts....who really knows...but they have to be doing something illegal....It is just getting caught..", "parentReplyId": 28096, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T12:02:27Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21082, "content": "\n i agree with you for sure on that jeff\n ", "contentHtml": " \r\ni agree with you for sure on that jeff \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T21:53:08Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21083, "content": "\n I believe some of the answer(s) are that they are hauling on farm tag(s), running red fuel, and other things like that!!\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nI believe some of the answer(s) are that they are hauling on farm tag(s), running red fuel, and other things like that!! ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-08-22", "dateAdded": "2011-04-29T01:30:58Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2410, "firstName": "MANDY", "lastName": "DE KONING", "companyName": "WHITETAIL EXPRESS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Summerfield", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 9, "userLikes": 9, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28097, "content": "We will never get rid of the wrong doers all we can do is try to help each other the best we can. The DOT does not care about the right things in this industry, just their CSA BS.", "contentHtml": "We will never get rid of the wrong doers all we can do is try to help each other the best we can. The DOT does not care about the right things in this industry, just their CSA BS.", "parentReplyId": 21083, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-29T15:23:43Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28928, "content": "with bunge,gavilon,monsanto,dupont,adm,and all the big agri business reporting record profits ,it stands to reason that THEY have already raised prices so now it is up to us to get our pricing in line.i have only a few times had a shipper call and say--it is time to raise your rate-----and one of those was last week.", "contentHtml": "with bunge,gavilon,monsanto,dupont,adm,and all the big agri business reporting record profits ,it stands to reason that THEY have already raised prices so now it is up to us to get our pricing in line.i have only a few times had a shipper call and say--it is time to raise your rate-----and one of those was last week.", "parentReplyId": 28096, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-29T20:29:35Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 585, "firstName": "DAN", "lastName": "BEAGLE", "companyName": "AMERICAN FARMLAND SUPPLY LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CASSVILLE", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 40, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29134, "content": "what kind of % increase", "contentHtml": "what kind of % increase", "parentReplyId": 28928, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-29T21:31:56Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21084, "content": "\n The reason most guys are going broke is because your running brand new shit. I am running a 25 000 dollar rig, it runs 5 days a week sometimes 7, and making more money than most guys because its payed for. Don't go to big to soon.\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nThe reason most guys are going broke is because your running brand new shit. I am running a 25 000 dollar rig, it runs 5 days a week sometimes 7, and making more money than most guys because its payed for. Don't go to big to soon. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-09", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T00:06:04Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 608, "firstName": "ZACH", "lastName": "BUSH", "companyName": "Z & E TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "KINGSVILLE", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 93, "userLikes": 14, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21085, "content": "Guy's go broke with older equipment also, it has nothing to do with new equipment. It's guys that don't know how to operate a buisness or manage their money and when they are broke they will haul cheap to have something coming in to try and pay the bills and make payments. I see this everyday.", "contentHtml": "Guy's go broke with older equipment also, it has nothing to do with new equipment. It's guys that don't know how to operate a buisness or manage their money and when they are broke they will haul cheap to have something coming in to try and pay the bills and make payments. I see this everyday.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-01-23", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T00:27:34Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3729, "firstName": "John", "lastName": "Ratliff", "companyName": "RATLIFF & SON TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Enid", "state": "OK", "userCommentCount": 59, "userLikes": 16, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28101, "content": "Hard to pay bills when you're spending for than you're making. There are times when it is better to sit than to run.", "contentHtml": "Hard to pay bills when you're spending for than you're making. There are times when it is better to sit than to run.", "parentReplyId": 21085, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-18", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T01:48:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3398, "firstName": "DAVID", "lastName": "HAYES", "companyName": "ROSS BENNETT TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Galena", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 236, "userLikes": 105, "userDislikes": 112, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28098, "content": "Paid for equipment is great for this type of economy...But you still need to save for that BIG engine overhaul..Or major break downs..read the forum under lease a truck..He had his equipment paid for and can't afford to fix it..Plus older equipment, is less reliable for being dependable as they break down more..So some companies don't really want them...Also depending on where you run..Some of the states are getting Hard nosed on older equipment for the air polution requirements.It is great that you are making money...But you still need to be able to replace that piece of equipment eventually or do the major repairs that will one day hit you...Best of luck..", "contentHtml": "Paid for equipment is great for this type of economy...But you still need to save for that BIG engine overhaul..Or major break downs..read the forum under lease a truck..He had his equipment paid for and can't afford to fix it..Plus older equipment, is less reliable for being dependable as they break down more..So some companies don't really want them...Also depending on where you run..Some of the states are getting Hard nosed on older equipment for the air polution requirements.It is great that you are making money...But you still need to be able to replace that piece of equipment eventually or do the major repairs that will one day hit you...Best of luck..", "parentReplyId": 21084, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T04:26:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28099, "content": "\n Brand new or newer equipment is irrelevant. Pending on your net profits, we will have to pay taxes to the government. If you net $60,000 at the end of the year, you're prolly paying about 30% in taxes, which is $20,000. If you have an older truck/trailer and no write off, you just gave this money to the government for free.. If you can't afford a newer truck at $1700/month, you're not going to afford your tax bill. You're either going to borrow from the bank to pay taxes, or to keep your equipment updated. I would rather give that money to the bank for newer equipment and depreciate it out over 3 years as opposed to give it to the government and let them give to some foreign country.\n \n If you like your older truck, I understand, I like the old/older ones too. Consider this: get a new trailer every 3 to 4 years. $45,000 over 36 months is about $1400/month. That's still cheaper than a $20,000 tax loan for 12 months. We are paying out the cash one way or the other, theres no way around it. We might as well spend it on something we can enjoy.\n \n That's just my opinion.\n", "contentHtml": " \r\n Brand new or newer equipment is irrelevant. Pending on your net profits, we will have to pay taxes to the government. If you net $60,000 at the end of the year, you're prolly paying about 30% in taxes, which is $20,000. If you have an older truck/trailer and no write off, you just gave this money to the government for free.. If you can't afford a newer truck at $1700/month, you're not going to afford your tax bill. You're either going to borrow from the bank to pay taxes, or to keep your equipment updated. I would rather give that money to the bank for newer equipment and depreciate it out over 3 years as opposed to give it to the government and let them give to some foreign country. \r\n \r\n If you like your older truck, I understand, I like the old/older ones too. Consider this: get a new trailer every 3 to 4 years. $45,000 over 36 months is about $1400/month. That's still cheaper than a $20,000 tax loan for 12 months. We are paying out the cash one way or the other, theres no way around it. We might as well spend it on something we can enjoy. \r\n \r\n That's just my opinion. ", "parentReplyId": 21084, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-01", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T05:00:20Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2969, "firstName": "AARON", "lastName": "SANNE", "companyName": "P & M ENTERPRISES", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "NORFOLK", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 90, "userLikes": 185, "userDislikes": 18, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28100, "content": "Pay yourself $60,000 a year plus workmans comp, taxes, health ins, 6% retirement and unemployment ins. I bet you don't make a dime.", "contentHtml": "Pay yourself $60,000 a year plus workmans comp, taxes, health ins, 6% retirement and unemployment ins. I bet you don't make a dime.", "parentReplyId": 21084, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-05-01T00:11:04Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 2, "signUpDate": "2010-10-17", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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Posted on Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 2:34 PM CST in Inver Grove Heights, MN