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{ "forumId": 23679, "postTypeId": 1, "postType": "Forum", "forumTitle": "COMPANIES CAN'T FIND QUALIFIED DRIVERS", "forumContent": "Gee ya wonder why.. I guess one gets tired of working his backside off and not get paid a decent wage.. Why is it that truck drivers aren't covered under most Labor laws.. No OT after 40 hours a week, no required lunch and break during the day.. And the list goes on. The only hing basically is covered is you have to at least make minimum wages..So see truck drivers are just like some kid working at 7-11.. There is the cops that have a power trip and enjoy writing bogus tickets..or give you a warning for nothing so they can affect your CSA score..Maybe qualified drivers found that there is actually a life that they can have and make more money, in the process of it...or maybe it's that they found a job where you get paid for your services ...and the list can go on and on ...well buckaroos maybe if the shipper , the receivers, the dispatchers,brokers treated you better and paid a wage that you can live on.. Maybe, just maybe you could get those qualified drivers back..until then hope for the best", "forumContentHtml": "Gee ya wonder why.. I guess one gets tired of working his backside off and not get paid a decent wage.. Why is it that truck drivers aren't covered under most Labor laws.. No OT after 40 hours a week, no required lunch and break during the day.. And the list goes on. The only hing basically is covered is you have to at least make minimum wages..So see truck drivers are just like some kid working at 7-11.. There is the cops that have a power trip and enjoy writing bogus tickets..or give you a warning for nothing so they can affect your CSA score..Maybe qualified drivers found that there is actually a life that they can have and make more money, in the process of it...or maybe it's that they found a job where you get paid for your services ...and the list can go on and on ...well buckaroos maybe if the shipper , the receivers, the dispatchers,brokers treated you better and paid a wage that you can live on.. Maybe, just maybe you could get those qualified drivers back..until then hope for the best", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2012-07-24T23:05:03Z", "lastPost": "2012-07-24T23:05:03Z", "views": 2949, "likes": 1, "dislikes": 1, "messageCount": 27, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "companies-cant-find-qualified-drivers", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/companies-cant-find-qualified-drivers/", "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "replies": [ { "replyId": 22561, "content": "\n Jeff, your exactly right. And its too bad that you couldn't list each and every little problem that causes the shortage of drivers without suffering from typer's cramp! I do believe it should be brought \"Front and Center\" to everybody's attention that D.O.T., CSA, and interviening government, plays a large roll for this shortage simply by applying TOO MUCH Regulations! Our business is the MOST REGULATED in the Industry, and they have no plans on letting up! More and more regs! They are choking our businesses to death. Everybody in government has an idea they want implemented upon us, which usually ends up costing us more and more money. Money we do not have, and yet they continue to milk us and milk us for more. When will they learn?", "contentHtml": "\r\n\tJeff, your exactly right. And its too bad that you couldn't list each and every little problem that causes the shortage of drivers without suffering from typer's cramp! I do believe it should be brought "Front and Center" to everybody's attention that D.O.T., CSA, and interviening government, plays a large roll for this shortage simply by applying TOO MUCH Regulations! Our business is the MOST REGULATED in the Industry, and they have no plans on letting up! More and more regs! They are choking our businesses to death. Everybody in government has an idea they want implemented upon us, which usually ends up costing us more and more money. Money we do not have, and yet they continue to milk us and milk us for more. When will they learn?", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-09-06", "dateAdded": "2012-07-25T00:17:18Z", "likes": 4, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2541, "firstName": "Thomas", "lastName": "Flock", "companyName": "TWIN VALLEY TRANSPORT LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Louisiana", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 31, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22562, "content": "It is funny that the same person gets on here and start to stir, just to see if he can get a response, driver shortage is nothing new, there always has been and there always will be a shortage of drivers, companies buy more trucks and then there is a lot of people that think trucking is a easy job, they go to school and then start trucking that theu cannot handle to be away from family and friends for a extended time, Rates are there, but if you on the forums all the time bitching and not look for customers you will run cheap freight.\n \n The shortage of drivers have nothing to do with brokers, shippers or receivers, but the way drivers get educated about trucking and the way they get treated by their company, if the get home time when needed or asked for, and not get the driver home 2 or 3 weeks later then requested, do they get paid a decend wage, do they get bennefits and are they treated like a important part of the company, does the company look after their truck and equipment like they should, so driver can run and not sit in a shop, etc.........", "contentHtml": "It is funny that the same person gets on here and start to stir, just to see if he can get a response, driver shortage is nothing new, there always has been and there always will be a shortage of drivers, companies buy more trucks and then there is a lot of people that think trucking is a easy job, they go to school and then start trucking that theu cannot handle to be away from family and friends for a extended time, Rates are there, but if you on the forums all the time bitching and not look for customers you will run cheap freight. \r\n \r\nThe shortage of drivers have nothing to do with brokers, shippers or receivers, but the way drivers get educated about trucking and the way they get treated by their company, if the get home time when needed or asked for, and not get the driver home 2 or 3 weeks later then requested, do they get paid a decend wage, do they get bennefits and are they treated like a important part of the company, does the company look after their truck and equipment like they should, so driver can run and not sit in a shop, etc.........", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-05-19", "dateAdded": "2012-07-25T19:25:10Z", "likes": 3, "dislikes": 2, "approved": 1, "userId": 4535, "firstName": "ANDRE", "lastName": "BOTHA", "companyName": "THOR TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Kansas City", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 23, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28424, "content": "Maybe if you scroll down you will see where there is an article on this subject. That's right it is nothing new.. But the companies are having problems finding qualified drivers..the word here is qualified.. But all you want to do is try to complain about ones that put posts here regarding subjects that come up. I never run cheap freight. I will go home empty rather than running cheap freight. I don't need to look for customers as I have full time , year round , pays the same customers.. You don't even know me, but you always try to belittle. And yes driver retention is affected by brokers, shippers and customers. Why would somebody want to work for a company who has abusive shippers and receivers.. And who uses brokers that get you loaded with stuff that nobody else will haul.. It is called grief.. Like I also put on my posting..there are many things why drivers don't want to drive truck anymore..and one reason is going places and hearing drivers tell you a line of how good they are, or what they have done. They are also saying in the article..if you read it that the pay is substandard.. They wrote that most drivers earn yearly about 37,000 .. If you figure out how many hours you really work, you would make more money working at mcDonalds. But I dont want to discourage the qualified drivers that are left.Again the word is qualified.", "contentHtml": "Maybe if you scroll down you will see where there is an article on this subject. That's right it is nothing new.. But the companies are having problems finding qualified drivers..the word here is qualified.. But all you want to do is try to complain about ones that put posts here regarding subjects that come up. I never run cheap freight. I will go home empty rather than running cheap freight. I don't need to look for customers as I have full time , year round , pays the same customers.. You don't even know me, but you always try to belittle. And yes driver retention is affected by brokers, shippers and customers. Why would somebody want to work for a company who has abusive shippers and receivers.. And who uses brokers that get you loaded with stuff that nobody else will haul.. It is called grief.. Like I also put on my posting..there are many things why drivers don't want to drive truck anymore..and one reason is going places and hearing drivers tell you a line of how good they are, or what they have done. They are also saying in the article..if you read it that the pay is substandard.. They wrote that most drivers earn yearly about 37,000 .. If you figure out how many hours you really work, you would make more money working at mcDonalds. But I dont want to discourage the qualified drivers that are left.Again the word is qualified.", "parentReplyId": 22562, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-26T02:23:34Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22563, "content": "Jeff If you are going to post a rant at least copy and paste the link so everyone doesn't have to go on a Easter egg hunt.", "contentHtml": "Jeff\n\nIf you are going to post a rant at least copy and paste the link so everyone doesn't have to go on a Easter egg hunt. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-18", "dateAdded": "2012-07-28T01:13:35Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3398, "firstName": "DAVID", "lastName": "HAYES", "companyName": "ROSS BENNETT TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Galena", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 236, "userLikes": 105, "userDislikes": 112, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29013, "content": "As for government regulations, that part is sometime a little hard to control, but as for drivers that keep complaining about how they are treated otherwise, all i can say to that is nobody forced me in to this industry and i can leave it at any time. sometimes we just have to part with certain people and tell them no more unless they are willing to change but i see so many people complaining but they just keep on letting themselves BE ABUSED.", "contentHtml": "As for government regulations, that part is sometime a little hard to control, but as for drivers that keep complaining about how they are treated otherwise, all i can say to that is nobody forced me in to this industry and i can leave it at any time. sometimes we just have to part with certain people and tell them no more unless they are willing to change but i see so many people complaining but they just keep on letting themselves BE ABUSED. ", "parentReplyId": 28424, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-04", "dateAdded": "2012-07-28T01:15:59Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1047, "firstName": "CHRISTOPHER", "lastName": "STIER", "companyName": "STIER FARMS INCORPORATED", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "GRAND MEADOW", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 236, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28425, "content": "Gee all you have to do is scroll down an inch or so and it's right there in the news section.. That's there to inform us of what's happening in the industry.. Like some of the companies that are out of business because of their CSA scores, brokers that were caught double brokering, a few truck accidents.. One guy even died when he was in a situation ,couldn't recover from it, had a crowd in front of him, and instead of hitting them went into a river and drowned.. So this is all on this web site.. But maybe one doesn't have time to look over the site, but has time to write on the forum..and I never rant...and if you think that this web site is an Easter egg hunt.. There is an 800 # to call the owners.. They are very nice guys and probably can make this site easier for you so you don't have to hunt.", "contentHtml": "Gee all you have to do is scroll down an inch or so and it's right there in the news section.. That's there to inform us of what's happening in the industry.. Like some of the companies that are out of business because of their CSA scores, brokers that were caught double brokering, a few truck accidents.. One guy even died when he was in a situation ,couldn't recover from it, had a crowd in front of him, and instead of hitting them went into a river and drowned.. So this is all on this web site.. But maybe one doesn't have time to look over the site, but has time to write on the forum..and I never rant...and if you think that this web site is an Easter egg hunt.. There is an 800 # to call the owners.. They are very nice guys and probably can make this site easier for you so you don't have to hunt.", "parentReplyId": 22563, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-28T20:22:03Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29163, "content": "Government regulations..IF you VOTED, last election it was less than 50% of the registered voters.. And IF truck drivers quit complaining and fighting with easy other, and stuck together, we could have so much power with the politicians , we could get anything done that we wanted.. Even reregulate this industry.. But it'll never happen.. So you get what some other group likeCRASH or who ever that does stick together shoves down out throats.. We have about 5 millionCDL holders. You don't think that politicians would not listen to us? But everybody will not become one...and they know this..there is an old saying UNITED WE STAND...DIVIDED WE FALL.. Hope you like that going over the cliff thing. Look at what, even today the teamsters union can do...and that's only a couple of hundred thousand... Or what CRASH or MADD does..they are only a few thousand at the most... And we have MILLIONS?and can't do diddly..how sad.", "contentHtml": "Government regulations..IF you VOTED, last election it was less than 50% of the registered voters.. And IF truck drivers quit complaining and fighting with easy other, and stuck together, we could have so much power with the politicians , we could get anything done that we wanted.. Even reregulate this industry.. But it'll never happen.. So you get what some other group likeCRASH or who ever that does stick together shoves down out throats.. We have about 5 millionCDL holders. You don't think that politicians would not listen to us? But everybody will not become one...and they know this..there is an old saying UNITED WE STAND...DIVIDED WE FALL.. Hope you like that going over the cliff thing. Look at what, even today the teamsters union can do...and that's only a couple of hundred thousand... Or what CRASH or MADD does..they are only a few thousand at the most... And we have MILLIONS?and can't do diddly..how sad.", "parentReplyId": 29013, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-28T20:32:18Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22564, "content": "\n You bitch and moan all the time. The news articles are updated all the time I'm not looking in the archives to see what you was bitching about this time. You're just to lazy to copy and paste the link.", "contentHtml": "\r\n\tYou bitch and moan all the time. The news articles are updated all the time I'm not looking in the archives to see what you was bitching about this time. You're just to lazy to copy and paste the link.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-18", "dateAdded": "2012-07-28T22:19:43Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3398, "firstName": "DAVID", "lastName": "HAYES", "companyName": "ROSS BENNETT TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Galena", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 236, "userLikes": 105, "userDislikes": 112, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22565, "content": "One needs to read the rules and quit complaining about and trying to belittle others..This is why the trucking industry is in the condition that it is in..there are some thats all they know how to do . Trying to make everybody around them look like fools..funny thing is that when you point a finger at others..4 are pointing at you.", "contentHtml": "One needs to read the rules and quit complaining about and trying to belittle others..This is why the trucking industry is in the condition that it is in..there are some thats all they know how to do . Trying to make everybody around them look like fools..funny thing is that when you point a finger at others..4 are pointing at you. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-29T04:02:53Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28426, "content": "go jeff as far as complaining sorry this thread was starded when what jeff was talking about was the top story!!!!!\n jeff i have not had the pleasure of talkin to you yet but when it was you and dale used to get thes fourms fun and we had a blast their wasnt all this crying from other people.\n it seams we cant even talk our minds on here anymore or for us to ask ? WHAT happened people are just to whiney and lazy and dont care about anyone but themselves thats y would couldnt get two cdl holders to work togeather on anything let alone agree and our wonderful goverment knows this and uses it.\n jeff you know what forget it they are just to lazy to work on trying to look for something or even when the thread was started wow bunch of babies guess they just need a but change like my youngest son lol.\n \n", "contentHtml": "go jeff as far as complaining sorry this thread was starded when what jeff was talking about was the top story!!!!! \r\njeff i have not had the pleasure of talkin to you yet but when it was you and dale used to get thes fourms fun and we had a blast their wasnt all this crying from other people. \r\nit seams we cant even talk our minds on here anymore or for us to ask ? WHAT happened people are just to whiney and lazy and dont care about anyone but themselves thats y would couldnt get two cdl holders to work togeather on anything let alone agree and our wonderful goverment knows this and uses it. \r\njeff you know what forget it they are just to lazy to work on trying to look for something or even when the thread was started wow bunch of babies guess they just need a but change like my youngest son lol. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 22565, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-27", "dateAdded": "2012-07-29T04:26:23Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1657, "firstName": "DAN", "lastName": "GUTHMILLER", "companyName": "GUTHMILLER TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MENNO", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 22, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28427, "content": "go jeff as far as complaining sorry this thread was starded when what jeff was talking about was the top story!!!!!\n jeff i have not had the pleasure of talkin to you yet but when it was you and dale used to get thes fourms fun and we had a blast their wasnt all this crying from other people.\n it seams we cant even talk our minds on here anymore or for us to ask ? WHAT happened people are just to whiney and lazy and dont care about anyone but themselves thats y would couldnt get two cdl holders to work togeather on anything let alone agree and our wonderful goverment knows this and uses it.\n jeff you know what forget it they are just to lazy to work on trying to look for something or even when the thread was started wow bunch of babies guess they just need a but change like my youngest son lol.\n \n", "contentHtml": "go jeff as far as complaining sorry this thread was starded when what jeff was talking about was the top story!!!!! \r\njeff i have not had the pleasure of talkin to you yet but when it was you and dale used to get thes fourms fun and we had a blast their wasnt all this crying from other people. \r\nit seams we cant even talk our minds on here anymore or for us to ask ? WHAT happened people are just to whiney and lazy and dont care about anyone but themselves thats y would couldnt get two cdl holders to work togeather on anything let alone agree and our wonderful goverment knows this and uses it. \r\njeff you know what forget it they are just to lazy to work on trying to look for something or even when the thread was started wow bunch of babies guess they just need a but change like my youngest son lol. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 22565, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-27", "dateAdded": "2012-07-29T04:26:24Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1657, "firstName": "DAN", "lastName": "GUTHMILLER", "companyName": "GUTHMILLER TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MENNO", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 22, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22566, "content": "Dan you are so right ..it was fun.and informative.sure do miss the old crowd like dale and others that havent been on..I think this all started with that jerk that was on about before christmas.But i guess this is the future generation of truck drivers..So let them have it..we have seen over the years many many changes, some good some bad..I think the worst was when they deregulated the industry..even the cut throats were forced to make money before, and you really had to try hard to go broke..Thanks for your post..it brings back many memories on this forum..", "contentHtml": "Dan you are so right ..it was fun.and informative.sure do miss the old crowd like dale and others that havent been on..I think this all started with that jerk that was on about before christmas.But i guess this is the future generation of truck drivers..So let them have it..we have seen over the years many many changes, some good some bad..I think the worst was when they deregulated the industry..even the cut throats were forced to make money before, and you really had to try hard to go broke..Thanks for your post..it brings back many memories on this forum..", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-29T05:40:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22567, "content": "your right and unfortunately i am part of that generation but these guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.some of the changes goi g on in the industry are good and some are bad not alot of guys see them doe big companys are tighting up on who they have haul their products they dont want steering wheel holders they want real truck drivers that care about their job and the load. we got one tru k up in the baken in fact im there now its my rotation they are putting the clamps on hard core they are weeding out the rip rafe hardcore i hear of two co's today that fired drives cause of attitudee and trying to push on the feild man. whats this mean even the oil co's are tired of winny steering wheel holders and the bs they want the guys that take pride and getting ride of who dont trust me their blacklisting drivers like crazy and shortly if to many they warned the will blackist co's hauling for them and everyone now knows y i stuck up for jeff i see it alot and he has a good point i dont want a driver working for me piss of one of my coustomers and i lose the job its time for a big change and for drivers to grow up and take pride and be happy you have a job just wait cause soon that could change with this huge drought and everything else going on in our wonderful usa.\n", "contentHtml": "your right and unfortunately i am part of that generation but these guys need to wake up and smell the coffee.some of the changes goi g on in the industry are good and some are bad not alot of guys see them doe big companys are tighting up on who they have haul their products they dont want steering wheel holders they want real truck drivers that care about their job and the load. we got one tru k up in the baken in fact im there now its my rotation they are putting the clamps on hard core they are weeding out the rip rafe hardcore i hear of two co's today that fired drives cause of attitudee and trying to push on the feild man. whats this mean even the oil co's are tired of winny steering wheel holders and the bs they want the guys that take pride and getting ride of who dont trust me their blacklisting drivers like crazy and shortly if to many they warned the will blackist co's hauling for them and everyone now knows y i stuck up for jeff i see it alot and he has a good point i dont want a driver working for me piss of one of my coustomers and i lose the job its time for a big change and for drivers to grow up and take pride and be happy you have a job just wait cause soon that could change with this huge drought and everything else going on in our wonderful usa. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-27", "dateAdded": "2012-07-30T04:59:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1657, "firstName": "DAN", "lastName": "GUTHMILLER", "companyName": "GUTHMILLER TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MENNO", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 22, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29014, "content": "Jeff, there is somethings that I agree and some I don't, Qualified drivers is a big problem, but the then again what do you call a qualified driver, the one that runs according to the rules, do not run over his log book and stay legal all the time no matter what, or the \"old school driver\" that will run no matter what, run 2 logs books, over load the truck by 2 tons and do not care about anything else, except to polish the truck and try and make a impression by his boss, that he is making lots of money for the boss.\n \n I agree, the drivers have it tough on amount of hours they work compare to someone in a plant or dock. But let see how much the drivers will have to be paid by the trucking companies if they only work 40hrs @ week, There will be a even bigger shortage of drivers then, because so more trucks on the roads will be needed, where is all these trucks going to park? \n One more it will not be the receivers, shippers, or Brokers problem, they will still order their freight and ship their freight at the same rates, because there is trucking companies out there\" aka Big Companies\" that will load at the lower rates. You think it is the Brokers fault that the freight rates are low, no Sir, we fight everyday to get the trucks better rates, but when you call a comany and they give you a rate and tell you take it or leave it, because they have trucking companies that haul it for the low rate direct, then what do you suggest the brokers do? I agree there is some brokers that take way too much out of the rates, but there is some of us that only take 2-4% for brokering.\n \n", "contentHtml": "Jeff, there is somethings that I agree and some I don't, Qualified drivers is a big problem, but the then again what do you call a qualified driver, the one that runs according to the rules, do not run over his log book and stay legal all the time no matter what, or the "old school driver" that will run no matter what, run 2 logs books, over load the truck by 2 tons and do not care about anything else, except to polish the truck and try and make a impression by his boss, that he is making lots of money for the boss. \r\n \r\nI agree, the drivers have it tough on amount of hours they work compare to someone in a plant or dock. But let see how much the drivers will have to be paid by the trucking companies if they only work 40hrs @ week, There will be a even bigger shortage of drivers then, because so more trucks on the roads will be needed, where is all these trucks going to park? \r\nOne more it will not be the receivers, shippers, or Brokers problem, they will still order their freight and ship their freight at the same rates, because there is trucking companies out there" aka Big Companies" that will load at the lower rates. You think it is the Brokers fault that the freight rates are low, no Sir, we fight everyday to get the trucks better rates, but when you call a comany and they give you a rate and tell you take it or leave it, because they have trucking companies that haul it for the low rate direct, then what do you suggest the brokers do? I agree there is some brokers that take way too much out of the rates, but there is some of us that only take 2-4% for brokering. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 28424, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-05-19", "dateAdded": "2012-07-30T21:43:09Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4535, "firstName": "ANDRE", "lastName": "BOTHA", "companyName": "THOR TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Kansas City", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 23, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29164, "content": "A qualified driver is somebody that drives truck as their first choice of a career, one that can drive anything that they are told to drive, one that uses common sence when they secure their load, one that doesn't back into another truck at the truck stop, or take off somebody else's hood, or that can not only get up a hill, but down the hill, one that doesn't tailgate you, or some poor guy in his car, or try's to suck the chrome off your bumper when they come back into your lane. a qualified driver is one that doesn't have a big radio and a little truck, one that knows how to drive in ALL weather, and road conditions, a qualified driver is one that has a can do attitude and can figure out by them selves how to secure, load and get the load to the customer with out any shortage or damage, and the list goes on. EVERY other job that one has pays by the hour, except farm workers. They pay overtime after 40 hours in a week, most truck drivers are gone most of the week. The most I've been out was 7 weeks. You have limited places to eat, at truck stops, unless you are lucky enough to find a place to eat with some truck parking..Ever been in a truck stop? The food if they have a sit down is more expensive than your craker barrel or where ever, and most are fast food.. We not only have to wait around all day waiting for a load,but They need it 600 miles away with an early AM appointment time, so why should we be tired? We not only have to contend with shippers and receivers who wish it had been railed instead of trucked and wonder why they have to put up with stupid truck drivers, we have to contend with people think they have absolute power over you and can do what ever they want to do to you because they have that star and gun, or where that earlyAM appointment hat you barely made, you sit around all day to unload, all with no pay. Or the broker that takes 60 or 70% of the load because they will find somebody haul it.. Are there good honest l shipper, receivers and brokers? YES.. But they are far and few between.You sir before you comment any more needs to pack your bag and get Ina truck for a couple of days and see what we really do and have to go through.. You get to go home at night, eat food that tastes good, doesn't have grease running off it and have dinner for about 20 bucks. With CSA there will be even more drivers qualified or not washed out, the only way things are truly going to improve is to pay by the hour, the truck and the driver..And to just give you a clue on the rates.. Fuel should be at 25% of your cost, not 40 or50%. And what did we do when we were regulated? We didn't have brokers, we dealt directly with the shipper or who ever ordered the load, only did we take another companies load when one had a truck available, and the truck company needed that load covered. One day..as the saying goes what goes around comes around, the loads will not be moved and the rail road won't be able to haul it all.. Then the rates will go up..The main objective of these. Big companies is to put all of the owner operators out of business, then that freight rate will be 10 bucks a mile and they don't need brokers.why do you think is the big push for speed limiters and Computer log books? And like I said brokers will be the second to go..WITHOUT trucks and qualified drivers, brokers are broke.. Then there are the brokers that don't pay, it used to be just a few years ago 1/2 when picked up, the other when the load was signed for. Now it's when ever, or the brokers that double broker, or the one that brokers the garbage that no body wants to touch. We don't do back hauls, and can't make it up in miles. But if one thinks they aren't getting a fair shake on the brokered rates,we can always underbid you, contract or not..ya think that load will fit in your pick up? How? Just open another MC number under another name..ya see like I said you need to get out in a truck and see what we really do.\n", "contentHtml": "A qualified driver is somebody that drives truck as their first choice of a career, one that can drive anything that they are told to drive, one that uses common sence when they secure their load, one that doesn't back into another truck at the truck stop, or take off somebody else's hood, or that can not only get up a hill, but down the hill, one that doesn't tailgate you, or some poor guy in his car, or try's to suck the chrome off your bumper when they come back into your lane. a qualified driver is one that doesn't have a big radio and a little truck, one that knows how to drive in ALL weather, and road conditions, a qualified driver is one that has a can do attitude and can figure out by them selves how to secure, load and get the load to the customer with out any shortage or damage, and the list goes on. EVERY other job that one has pays by the hour, except farm workers. They pay overtime after 40 hours in a week, most truck drivers are gone most of the week. The most I've been out was 7 weeks. You have limited places to eat, at truck stops, unless you are lucky enough to find a place to eat with some truck parking..Ever been in a truck stop? The food if they have a sit down is more expensive than your craker barrel or where ever, and most are fast food.. We not only have to wait around all day waiting for a load,but They need it 600 miles away with an early AM appointment time, so why should we be tired? We not only have to contend with shippers and receivers who wish it had been railed instead of trucked and wonder why they have to put up with stupid truck drivers, we have to contend with people think they have absolute power over you and can do what ever they want to do to you because they have that star and gun, or where that earlyAM appointment hat you barely made, you sit around all day to unload, all with no pay. Or the broker that takes 60 or 70% of the load because they will find somebody haul it.. Are there good honest l shipper, receivers and brokers? YES.. But they are far and few between.You sir before you comment any more needs to pack your bag and get Ina truck for a couple of days and see what we really do and have to go through.. You get to go home at night, eat food that tastes good, doesn't have grease running off it and have dinner for about 20 bucks. With CSA there will be even more drivers qualified or not washed out, the only way things are truly going to improve is to pay by the hour, the truck and the driver..And to just give you a clue on the rates.. Fuel should be at 25% of your cost, not 40 or50%. And what did we do when we were regulated? We didn't have brokers, we dealt directly with the shipper or who ever ordered the load, only did we take another companies load when one had a truck available, and the truck company needed that load covered. One day..as the saying goes what goes around comes around, the loads will not be moved and the rail road won't be able to haul it all.. Then the rates will go up..The main objective of these. Big companies is to put all of the owner operators out of business, then that freight rate will be 10 bucks a mile and they don't need brokers.why do you think is the big push for speed limiters and Computer log books? And like I said brokers will be the second to go..WITHOUT trucks and qualified drivers, brokers are broke.. Then there are the brokers that don't pay, it used to be just a few years ago 1/2 when picked up, the other when the load was signed for. Now it's when ever, or the brokers that double broker, or the one that brokers the garbage that no body wants to touch. We don't do back hauls, and can't make it up in miles. But if one thinks they aren't getting a fair shake on the brokered rates,we can always underbid you, contract or not..ya think that load will fit in your pick up? How? Just open another MC number under another name..ya see like I said you need to get out in a truck and see what we really do. ", "parentReplyId": 29014, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-07-30T23:02:57Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 1, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22568, "content": "Jeff, for your info I was in the truck bud, I was out on the road for 16 years, pulled just about everything out there, before I decided to get out the truck, so I know what it takes. I know what a qualified driver is and as I said that is a big problem out there, I know there is a lot of brokers that never drove a truck and they are maby the ones you refer too, but I can also tell you that if it was so easy for the owner ops to run direct for shippers and or receivers, why don't they do it, why don't you do it Jeff, just think then you would not have to hang around the forums on the web, because you will have enough freight to haul on your own, no bud. There will always be brokers, because it is much easier for a lot of shippers to give their freight to us then to try and find trucks them self. There just will always be a shortage of drivers, because there is always green fields for the drivers at another company with a recruiter that makes false promises to the drivers.", "contentHtml": "Jeff, for your info I was in the truck bud, I was out on the road for 16 years, pulled just about everything out there, before I decided to get out the truck, so I know what it takes. I know what a qualified driver is and as I said that is a big problem out there, I know there is a lot of brokers that never drove a truck and they are maby the ones you refer too, but I can also tell you that if it was so easy for the owner ops to run direct for shippers and or receivers, why don't they do it, why don't you do it Jeff, just think then you would not have to hang around the forums on the web, because you will have enough freight to haul on your own, no bud. There will always be brokers, because it is much easier for a lot of shippers to give their freight to us then to try and find trucks them self. There just will always be a shortage of drivers, because there is always green fields for the drivers at another company with a recruiter that makes false promises to the drivers.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-05-19", "dateAdded": "2012-08-08T21:49:17Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4535, "firstName": "ANDRE", "lastName": "BOTHA", "companyName": "THOR TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Kansas City", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 23, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22569, "content": "\n What about personal responsibility? Everyone knows what the job entails. It is up to them to make an informed decision. When you accept that CDL in your hot little hand there are strings attached. If you don't like them. Find another job. So sick and tired of all the whining about FMCSA and CSA. Run compliant and you won't have any issues. As for the rate of pay and overtime. Again, only we can change this. Not by whining and moaning about it. Quit running the trucks for cheap!!\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nWhat about personal responsibility? Everyone knows what the job entails. It is up to them to make an informed decision. When you accept that CDL in your hot little hand there are strings attached. If you don't like them. Find another job. So sick and tired of all the whining about FMCSA and CSA. Run compliant and you won't have any issues. As for the rate of pay and overtime. Again, only we can change this. Not by whining and moaning about it. Quit running the trucks for cheap!! ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-10-17", "dateAdded": "2012-08-19T19:05:04Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2849, "firstName": "Debra", "lastName": "Miller", "companyName": "NOT IN BUSINESS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Inver Grove Heights", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 39, "userLikes": 57, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22570, "content": "i dont think they really mean driver shortage what they really mean is shortage of drivers that will work for nothing,sit around a full shift waiting for loading or unloading.if truckers were a race of people or a certain gender there would be outcry about discrimination,maybe its time for an extended vacation till the powers that be know what a driver shortage is\n", "contentHtml": "i dont think they really mean driver shortage what they really mean is shortage of drivers that will work for nothing,sit around a full shift waiting for loading or unloading.if truckers were a race of people or a certain gender there would be outcry about discrimination,maybe its time for an extended vacation till the powers that be know what a driver shortage is ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-09-02", "dateAdded": "2012-08-29T23:14:40Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 1, "approved": 1, "userId": 2518, "firstName": "BILL ", "lastName": "NORWOOD", "companyName": "POLECAT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Concord", "state": "GA", "userCommentCount": 53, "userLikes": 6, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22571, "content": "I agree that we as a \"Trucking Industry\" get abused regarding sitting time. As to another post, the only people that I know that feel that we should sit back and let CSA stand in its current form are those that have been fortunate enough to not have been negatively impacted. There are to many cases where drivers are cited for things that they shoudn't. Example: I had a driver cited for not filling out the \"To and From\" lines on his logbook. These are not required to be filled out as per FMCSA rules. I had to have my CSA consultant DATA Q the thing and it was over turned. This adds time to my office people and expense to my bussiness. Another Example: I was driving and had a tire blow out. I pulled over as quickly as possible on the shoulder. I had an Officer attempt ( by his admission) try to beat me to the shoulder so he could write me an Out Of Service violation for moving with a flat tire. As long as these situations continue to occur and impact my bottom line, I will continue as you said\"whine about CSA\". Also I can preach, threaten and try educate my drivers till the cows come home. If that driver makes a mistake it impacts my company record for 2 years which impacts \"ALL\" of my drivers for 2 years. We do everything possible to run compliant, but it isn't that simple when you have more than one truck.\n \n Know you and the rest can rag on me forever, but untill you run in my area and walk in my shoes. I will not be in agreement with this CSA crap.\n \n Art..\"have at me...Pfluger", "contentHtml": "I agree that we as a "Trucking Industry" get abused regarding sitting time. As to another post, the only people that I know that feel that we should sit back and let CSA stand in its current form are those that have been fortunate enough to not have been negatively impacted. There are to many cases where drivers are cited for things that they shoudn't. Example: I had a driver cited for not filling out the "To and From" lines on his logbook. These are not required to be filled out as per FMCSA rules. I had to have my CSA consultant DATA Q the thing and it was over turned. This adds time to my office people and expense to my bussiness. Another Example: I was driving and had a tire blow out. I pulled over as quickly as possible on the shoulder. I had an Officer attempt ( by his admission) try to beat me to the shoulder so he could write me an Out Of Service violation for moving with a flat tire. As long as these situations continue to occur and impact my bottom line, I will continue as you said"whine about CSA". Also I can preach, threaten and try educate my drivers till the cows come home. If that driver makes a mistake it impacts my company record for 2 years which impacts "ALL" of my drivers for 2 years. We do everything possible to run compliant, but it isn't that simple when you have more than one truck. \r\n \r\nKnow you and the rest can rag on me forever, but untill you run in my area and walk in my shoes. I will not be in agreement with this CSA crap. \r\n \r\nArt.."have at me...Pfluger", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-05", "dateAdded": "2012-08-31T01:11:28Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3266, "firstName": "ROSE", "lastName": "PFLUGER", "companyName": "ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MORRISTOWN", "state": "AZ", "userCommentCount": 804, "userLikes": 10, "userDislikes": 4, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22572, "content": "Art you are so right! Where ever, a cop can pull you over, and make up some story about you maybe speeding, and says well i'll just give you a warning. He fills out the paperwork in his car, and you will see on your CSA score as speeding. So this cop is ticketer, judge and jury. All in one. Or like the one like Art had with the blown tire.. Let's add this, you loose a cap, and the tire blows. They can put on your CSA score, not enough tire tread, under inflated tire, and driving with a flat tire. But I'll let you off with a warning.. And just slide that puppy on your CSA score. This isn't sniveling, or complaining about, or anything but what the authorities can and are doing everyday to the trucking industry. Maybe it is time to tell the cop, the hell with that warning, give me a ticket and let's go to court. At least when you win, it won't go on your score, the cop looks bad in front of the judge for writing a bad ticket and maybe they will stop this little game. And if you haven't had it done to you, wait until the cops in your running area find out that this is a little game that they can play with truckers. Or you were out in a dusty field and that field dust is blowing off your truck...Oppps insecured load, it has to be.", "contentHtml": "Art you are so right! Where ever, a cop can pull you over, and make up some story about you maybe speeding, and says well i'll just give you a warning. He fills out the paperwork in his car, and you will see on your CSA score as speeding. So this cop is ticketer, judge and jury. All in one. Or like the one like Art had with the blown tire.. Let's add this, you loose a cap, and the tire blows. They can put on your CSA score, not enough tire tread, under inflated tire, and driving with a flat tire. But I'll let you off with a warning.. And just slide that puppy on your CSA score. This isn't sniveling, or complaining about, or anything but what the authorities can and are doing everyday to the trucking industry. Maybe it is time to tell the cop, the hell with that warning, give me a ticket and let's go to court. At least when you win, it won't go on your score, the cop looks bad in front of the judge for writing a bad ticket and maybe they will stop this little game. And if you haven't had it done to you, wait until the cops in your running area find out that this is a little game that they can play with truckers. Or you were out in a dusty field and that field dust is blowing off your truck...Oppps insecured load, it has to be. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-08-31T17:56:11Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28428, "content": "And just WHO is cutting the rate? Not the big companies like JB Hunt or Schneider. They won't haul it if it to cheap. They are in the business of making money or they will just do something else. To Donnie Schneider when he was alive, Schneider national, snider specialized, and Schneider transportation was just a hobby for him. He was into Qualcomm, and satellites. Remember that shuttle that blew up? He lost a satellite that day. And now most of JB Hunt is subsidized by Burlington Northern Santa Fe. That is why you don't see very many hunt trucks on the road. As for brokers, what about the one that pulled an add in the jobs forum saying that he would give you 65% of theload.. It was right here. And 16 years out on the road and hauled just about everything? Ok you must be super trucker. Because I've been out on the road for over 40 years and haven't hauled just about everything, as most with over 40 years. We haul what we get, and sometimes have to use a lot of imagination on how to keep it on the truck. Or just how are we going to get there. But I don't have time to tell you a portion of what I've hauled, or where I've hauled.. See I like to drive and don't have time to drink coffeee all day in a truck stop, telling everybody just how great you think you are. I am not a proooofessional truck driver, I love what I do, even when you get beat up having to wait all day on a load, or have bad shipper or receivers, as I have the choice to go back or not. When I first got into trucking, I realized that there were two types of drivers. The want to be, and the have to be. The want to be is somebody that loves the freedom, and to just be able to drive. The have to be is this is the best job that they can get. And today is the think they are. They think they are a truck driver. You are getting more and more think they are. There are some kids coming into this trade that will be great truck drivers.but the think they are will be the majority . As for always have brokers? Funny thing , we didn't use to have brokers and were able to function. Then the only brokerage was one trucking company with trucks not being able to haul all of their freight, getting another trucking company with trucks ,to haul it for them.. Of course you've always have had the produce brokers, but they aren't any type of trucking company.and like the original post on this thread ..it is QUALIFIED DRIVERS.that there is a shortage of.with all of your vast trucking experience, what was the greatest invention that has been put on trucks over the last 70 years? Air ride, power steering air conditioning and diesel engines.And maybe the interstate system. What is the worst thing that has happened to trucking? Deregulation. Now there will be some that will say deregulation was the greatest thing, and most weren't even born then or driving truck. Then we made a good living.", "contentHtml": "And just WHO is cutting the rate? Not the big companies like JB Hunt or Schneider. They won't haul it if it to cheap. They are in the business of making money or they will just do something else. To Donnie Schneider when he was alive, Schneider national, snider specialized, and Schneider transportation was just a hobby for him. He was into Qualcomm, and satellites. Remember that shuttle that blew up? He lost a satellite that day. And now most of JB Hunt is subsidized by Burlington Northern Santa Fe. That is why you don't see very many hunt trucks on the road. As for brokers, what about the one that pulled an add in the jobs forum saying that he would give you 65% of theload.. It was right here. And 16 years out on the road and hauled just about everything? Ok you must be super trucker. Because I've been out on the road for over 40 years and haven't hauled just about everything, as most with over 40 years. We haul what we get, and sometimes have to use a lot of imagination on how to keep it on the truck. Or just how are we going to get there. But I don't have time to tell you a portion of what I've hauled, or where I've hauled.. See I like to drive and don't have time to drink coffeee all day in a truck stop, telling everybody just how great you think you are. I am not a proooofessional truck driver, I love what I do, even when you get beat up having to wait all day on a load, or have bad shipper or receivers, as I have the choice to go back or not. When I first got into trucking, I realized that there were two types of drivers. The want to be, and the have to be. The want to be is somebody that loves the freedom, and to just be able to drive. The have to be is this is the best job that they can get. And today is the think they are. They think they are a truck driver. You are getting more and more think they are. There are some kids coming into this trade that will be great truck drivers.but the think they are will be the majority . As for always have brokers? Funny thing , we didn't use to have brokers and were able to function. Then the only brokerage was one trucking company with trucks not being able to haul all of their freight, getting another trucking company with trucks ,to haul it for them.. Of course you've always have had the produce brokers, but they aren't any type of trucking company.and like the original post on this thread ..it is QUALIFIED DRIVERS.that there is a shortage of.with all of your vast trucking experience, what was the greatest invention that has been put on trucks over the last 70 years? Air ride, power steering air conditioning and diesel engines.And maybe the interstate system. What is the worst thing that has happened to trucking? Deregulation. Now there will be some that will say deregulation was the greatest thing, and most weren't even born then or driving truck. Then we made a good living.", "parentReplyId": 22568, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-08-31T18:39:02Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22573, "content": "Amen Jeff,I've always treated trucking as a lifestyle.To most nowadays it's just a living.Its been very good to us.", "contentHtml": "Amen Jeff,I've always treated trucking as a lifestyle.To most nowadays it's just a living.Its been very good to us.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-12", "dateAdded": "2012-08-31T21:23:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1094, "firstName": "TRAVIS", "lastName": "PEDERSON", "companyName": "PEDERSON TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Conde", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 10, "userLikes": 20, "userDislikes": 18, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22574, "content": "Sorry but the last sentance should be ... Those that do not think that regulation was good . Not do think that it was good", "contentHtml": "Sorry but the last sentance should be ... Those that do not think that regulation was good . Not do think that it was good", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-09-02T03:13:00Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29165, "content": "When you say \"overload the truck\" do you mean by the rules that the local yocal government set or what the manufacture state is safe ,, cause theres a big big difference for in some states 36,000 on a tandem is ok but in others 34,000 is the limit and then the manufacture's state 38-40000 on a tandem, and what is so wrong by doing whatever it takes to get the job done right and safe and if the boss makes some cash thats what he's in business to do if not you probably wont have a job.", "contentHtml": "When you say "overload the truck" do you mean by the rules that the local yocal government set or what the manufacture state is safe ,, cause theres a big big difference for in some states 36,000 on a tandem is ok but in others 34,000 is the limit and then the manufacture's state 38-40000 on a tandem, and what is so wrong by doing whatever it takes to get the job done right and safe and if the boss makes some cash thats what he's in business to do if not you probably wont have a job.", "parentReplyId": 29014, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-30", "dateAdded": "2012-09-05T22:38:17Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 906, "firstName": "RON", "lastName": "MILLER", "companyName": "BIG HAMMER INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Ravenna", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 120, "userLikes": 75, "userDislikes": 96, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29268, "content": "Ron, I was refering to overloading gross weight and not tandem weight as @ dot weight requirments, eg. 82 000 instead of the legal 80 000lbs. The cash that the boss makes more on 1 -2 tons is so little that it ain't even worth while.\n \n", "contentHtml": "Ron, I was refering to overloading gross weight and not tandem weight as @ dot weight requirments, eg. 82 000 instead of the legal 80 000lbs. The cash that the boss makes more on 1 -2 tons is so little that it ain't even worth while. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 29165, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-05-19", "dateAdded": "2012-09-06T18:16:58Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4535, "firstName": "ANDRE", "lastName": "BOTHA", "companyName": "THOR TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Kansas City", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 23, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22575, "content": "Even hauling in some of the western states where you haul by the ton, and can haul 129,000 .so they lower the rates to reflect what you can haul. And the rate for 80,000 you will go broke on the first load. And everybody is bothered with 6-7 miles per gallon? We love to get 4. But it's done everyday.", "contentHtml": "Even hauling in some of the western states where you haul by the ton, and can haul 129,000 .so they lower the rates to reflect what you can haul. And the rate for 80,000 you will go broke on the first load. And everybody is bothered with 6-7 miles per gallon? We love to get 4. But it's done everyday. 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Posted on Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 7:05 PM CST in PAYSON, UT

COMPANIES CAN'T FIND QUALIFIED DRIVERS

Gee ya wonder why.. I guess one gets tired of working his backside off and not get paid a decent wage.. Why is it that truck drivers aren't covered under most Labor laws.. No OT after 40 hours a week, no required lunch and break during the day.. And the list goes on. The only hing basically is covered is you have to at least make minimum wages..So see truck drivers are just like some kid working at 7-11.. There is the cops that have a power trip and enjoy writing bogus tickets..or give you a warning for nothing so they can affect your CSA score..Maybe qualified drivers found that there is actually a life that they can have and make more money, in the process of it...or maybe it's that they found a job where you get paid for your services ...and the list can go on and on ...well buckaroos maybe if the shipper , the receivers, the dispatchers,brokers treated you better and paid a wage that you can live on.. Maybe, just maybe you could get those qualified drivers back..until then hope for the best

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