DO YOU SEE HEAVY-DUTY TRUCKS CONVERTING TO NATURAL GAS? HOW MUCH WOULD IT SAVE? - Bulk Trucking Forum & Discussion Board & Bulkloads.com

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Every minnow has a hook.\n", "contentHtml": "Whats in it for Pickens? Every minnow has a hook.<br />", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-22", "dateAdded": "2011-05-14T03:12:48Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 828, "firstName": "SAM", "lastName": "MAASS", "companyName": "LMX", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "DAWSON", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 62, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28125, "content": "\n Everything is all about money...Read between the lines with everything that this guy does...Because it is not for us but only for Pickens...\n", "contentHtml": "<br />\r\nEverything is all about money...Read between the lines with everything that this guy does...Because it is not for us but only for Pickens...<br />", "parentReplyId": 21178, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-05-14T03:24:50Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21179, "content": "\n Back in the mid 90's Jack B Kelly out of Amarillo Tx was putting up a system of liquid natual gas service stations...and was going to go nationwide...Cummins had an engine to run the gas...BUT the Feds were suppose to come up with tax incentives...but reniged on the deal...LNG doesn't have the BTU as diesel and you must fuel up every day...Ie.. local trucks....Is it cleaner than diesel? Natual gas still is a carbon..so you are still putting CO2 into the air....Lets face it all of this is about MONEY and that is it...Just like cap and trade...The very very rich get richer..Nothing but feelgood fuzzy greed at it's best...It will not save anything...and may cost more than you are spending now...\n", "contentHtml": "<br />\r\nBack in the mid 90's Jack B Kelly out of Amarillo Tx was putting up a system of liquid natual gas service stations...and was going to go nationwide...Cummins had an engine to run the gas...BUT the Feds were suppose to come up with tax incentives...but reniged on the deal...LNG doesn't have the BTU as diesel and you must fuel up every day...Ie.. local trucks....Is it cleaner than diesel? Natual gas still is a carbon..so you are still putting CO2 into the air....Lets face it all of this is about MONEY and that is it...Just like cap and trade...The very very rich get richer..Nothing but feelgood fuzzy greed at it's best...It will not save anything...and may cost more than you are spending now...<br />", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-05-14T03:33:23Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21180, "content": "http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110521/GPG03/105210562/Freightliners-move-natural-gas-technology\n \n", "contentHtml": "<a href=\"http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110521/GPG03/105210562/Freightliners-move-natural-gas-technology\">http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110521/GPG03/105210562/Freightliners-move-natural-gas-technology</a><br />\r\n<br />", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-07", "dateAdded": "2011-05-22T18:01:27Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3289, "firstName": "Forum", "lastName": "Questions", "companyName": "BULKLOADS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Springfield", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 98, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [ "http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/article/20110521/GPG03/105210562/Freightliners-move-natural-gas-technology" ], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28126, "content": "50K more a truck, limited fueling, 300 miles between fuel-ups, smaller motors? Not that I'm not for helping the environment, but I want to know how long is the ROI, and how do I make up for having to have two trucks under one trailer to pull 26 tons? Maybe for the buses and garbage trucks and city fleet trucks. \n \n Tank with compressed natural gas encased in metal? How do you stop the idiot four-wheeler from slamming into you and blowing you both to kingdom come? Is anyone else uncomfortable with this idea?", "contentHtml": "50K more a truck, limited fueling, 300 miles between fuel-ups, smaller motors? Not that I'm not for helping the environment, but I want to know how long is the ROI, and how do I make up for having to have two trucks under one trailer to pull 26 tons? Maybe for the buses and garbage trucks and city fleet trucks. <br />\r\n<br />\r\nTank with compressed natural gas encased in metal? How do you stop the idiot four-wheeler from slamming into you and blowing you both to kingdom come? Is anyone else uncomfortable with this idea?", "parentReplyId": 21180, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-18", "dateAdded": "2011-05-23T13:58:52Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1332, "firstName": "JACKIE", "lastName": "MASON", "companyName": "D&D TRKNG AND SVCS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Delphos", "state": "OH", "userCommentCount": 103, "userLikes": 5, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28940, "content": "The tanks will be made of a fiberglass or carbon fiber like material. They are lighter, do not rust, and can take more abuse than a standard steal tank. I would agree I dont see this going main streem on Over the road trucks untill the distribution network is well established. It does make sense for large vehicles that have a limited range and can easily get fuel at a base station.", "contentHtml": "The tanks will be made of a fiberglass or carbon fiber like material. They are lighter, do not rust, and can take more abuse than a standard steal tank. I would agree I dont see this going main streem on Over the road trucks untill the distribution network is well established. It does make sense for large vehicles that have a limited range and can easily get fuel at a base station. 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DO YOU SEE HEAVY-DUTY TRUCKS CONVERTING TO NATURAL GAS? HOW MUCH WOULD IT SAVE?

Posted on Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:34 PM CST in Springfield, MO