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{ "forumId": 23049, "postTypeId": 1, "postType": "Forum", "forumTitle": "MORE HP AND MPG", "forumContent": "does anyone know witch brand works the best for better mpg bully dog, pittsburg, etc... but wouldn't mind a little more power i am running 95 pete with 500 cat 3406e", "forumContentHtml": "does anyone know witch brand works the best for better mpg bully dog, pittsburg, etc... but wouldn't mind a little more power i am running 95 pete with 500 cat 3406e", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2011-04-19T21:28:14Z", "lastPost": "2011-04-19T21:28:14Z", "views": 10296, "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "messageCount": 25, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "more-hp-and-mpg", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/more-hp-and-mpg/", "userId": 2096, "firstName": "NICK", "lastName": "BOYLE", "companyName": "BOYLE BOYZ LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "ELMA", "state": "IA", "userCommentCount": 3, "userLikes": 0, "replies": [ { "replyId": 21060, "content": "i pull hopper with t600 t660 and aero style petes and they don't get any better milage than my long hood today a 1 mpg advantage would make your truck payment if a t660 got 1mpg or better than a 379 there wouldn't be any 379 on the road all i was wondering is if any one has had any luck tuning there trucks wint aftermarket kits or add ons", "contentHtml": "i pull hopper with t600 t660 and aero style petes and they don't get any better milage than my long hood today a 1 mpg advantage would make your truck payment if a t660 got 1mpg or better than a 379 there wouldn't be any 379 on the road all i was wondering is if any one has had any luck tuning there trucks wint aftermarket kits or add ons", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-07-18", "dateAdded": "2011-04-19T22:57:36Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2096, "firstName": "NICK", "lastName": "BOYLE", "companyName": "BOYLE BOYZ LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "ELMA", "state": "IA", "userCommentCount": 3, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28086, "content": "\n Contact Pittsburg Diesel, is all I can say.\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nContact Pittsburg Diesel, is all I can say. ", "parentReplyId": 21060, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-28", "dateAdded": "2011-04-19T23:23:46Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1665, "firstName": "ANDRE", "lastName": "BOTHA", "companyName": "BROTHERTON FARMS TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHILLICOTHE", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 10, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28087, "content": "Your right if the aero trucks are 04 or newer, dead wrong if not. 1 mpg difference unless you drive 55-60.", "contentHtml": "Your right if the aero trucks are 04 or newer, dead wrong if not. 1 mpg difference unless you drive 55-60.", "parentReplyId": 21060, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-19T23:52:39Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21061, "content": "\n well this is my set up t600 it was a 3406 e but was turned into a B model its a 13 speed overdrive with 3.70 rear ends and tall 24.5 tires truck is about 550 after they turned it up but i still get 6.5 to 6.9 on my ifta and i drive the speed limit plus 5 and theres the 2000 379 pete we run with a 425 hp c15 10 speed low pro 22.5 all electric and 3.55 rear ends and gets 5.5 to 5.9 going the speed limit so tell me this the pete is 6 years newer electric goes the speed limit (old man driving it) but still gets better mileage areo has alot more do with it than people think this is a very good example\n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nwell this is my set up t600 it was a 3406 e but was turned into a B model its a 13 speed overdrive with 3.70 rear ends and tall 24.5 tires truck is about 550 after they turned it up but i still get 6.5 to 6.9 on my ifta and i drive the speed limit plus 5 and theres the 2000 379 pete we run with a 425 hp c15 10 speed low pro 22.5 all electric and 3.55 rear ends and gets 5.5 to 5.9 going the speed limit so tell me this the pete is 6 years newer electric goes the speed limit (old man driving it) but still gets better mileage areo has alot more do with it than people think this is a very good example \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-20T04:17:30Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21062, "content": "As the other post recommended..contact pittsburg power...They will recommend a variety of things..depending on your pocket book...Also put a timer to shut off the engine after 3 minutes...idling kills fuel economy..and shut off the truck with an APU...it is really surprizing how much idle time you have.I was at about 47% without my apu ,it will be a real shocker...When I was pulling heavy..I found .the different fuel companies have different grades of fuel...Yeah Flying J is cheaper...but I found that TA and Petro has the best for economy...Also put in Howes every couple of loads...even in the summer...It lowers your cetane and helps lubricate the upper parts of your engine...The Best fuel that I found was at National truckstop in Vada New Mexico.And the worst was any Flying J...The power just wasn't there....As before look into one of those FASS filter set ups...it takes the air out of the fuel..so you get a full burn...It is surprising how much air the fuel holds today...with the return of the fuel from the engine..it cools the computer on most engines...Also with Bio diesel...it just depends who blends it and what the percentage is...Found Sapps was one of the better...And as other have said slow down..to at least 65....Also the tires and air preasure is also criticle...10 lbs off and you have drag....another is is your trailer going straight down the road?? might be a dry 5th wheel..another drag and tire eater..or look into wide tracks...We can all go on and on about improving your mpg...But if the freight paid what it should...you can afford to pay for fuel...even at 1.20 a gallon..you need to try to get good fuel econony..as it is pocket money...Why is it that the old pre 80's engine averaged 5 miles to the gallon...even before all this crap that they are doing now?", "contentHtml": "As the other post recommended..contact pittsburg power...They will recommend a variety of things..depending on your pocket book...Also put a timer to shut off the engine after 3 minutes...idling kills fuel economy..and shut off the truck with an APU...it is really surprizing how much idle time you have.I was at about 47% without my apu ,it will be a real shocker...When I was pulling heavy..I found .the different fuel companies have different grades of fuel...Yeah Flying J is cheaper...but I found that TA and Petro has the best for economy...Also put in Howes every couple of loads...even in the summer...It lowers your cetane and helps lubricate the upper parts of your engine...The Best fuel that I found was at National truckstop in Vada New Mexico.And the worst was any Flying J...The power just wasn't there....As before look into one of those FASS filter set ups...it takes the air out of the fuel..so you get a full burn...It is surprising how much air the fuel holds today...with the return of the fuel from the engine..it cools the computer on most engines...Also with Bio diesel...it just depends who blends it and what the percentage is...Found Sapps was one of the better...And as other have said slow down..to at least 65....Also the tires and air preasure is also criticle...10 lbs off and you have drag....another is is your trailer going straight down the road?? might be a dry 5th wheel..another drag and tire eater..or look into wide tracks...We can all go on and on about improving your mpg...But if the freight paid what it should...you can afford to pay for fuel...even at 1.20 a gallon..you need to try to get good fuel econony..as it is pocket money...Why is it that the old pre 80's engine averaged 5 miles to the gallon...even before all this crap that they are doing now?", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-04-20T08:37:43Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21063, "content": "Most things are just common sense, you don't need to spend money to save fuel. We have idle timers set @ 10 minutes,APU's, 65 mph limits, ect and the good drivers still can make .5 to 1 mpg difference. We run 40 states and canada hence my thought of lower mileage. When we run just the missisippi delta we get much better mileage also. Just saying $4.00 fuel isn't the time to make changes that should have been happening all along. PS I have a cousin that makes 8 mpg pulling a refer with a FLD classic with no mods, my wifes uncle made a round with him to verifiy it and he can do it. Really hard to find any driver that will try that hard all the time including myself.", "contentHtml": "Most things are just common sense, you don't need to spend money to save fuel. We have idle timers set @ 10 minutes,APU's, 65 mph limits, ect and the good drivers still can make .5 to 1 mpg difference. We run 40 states and canada hence my thought of lower mileage. When we run just the missisippi delta we get much better mileage also. Just saying $4.00 fuel isn't the time to make changes that should have been happening all along. PS I have a cousin that makes 8 mpg pulling a refer with a FLD classic with no mods, my wifes uncle made a round with him to verifiy it and he can do it. Really hard to find any driver that will try that hard all the time including myself.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-04-20T13:59:53Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21064, "content": "Don't waste you time or money the air cell or fuelcell 3000 we put one on one of our trucks with a C15 Cat and it gets the worse mpg in our fleet around 5.5 I personaly drive a 99 W900 with a 550 Cat and get 6.5 mpg loaded and almost 7. empty pully an insulated tank... We also have 4 trucks with C12 and C13's and all them to seem to be averaging around the same 6.5 to7.5 mpg.....I'm thinking of replacing the C15 with a C12 in my one truck since its has almost 950000 on it, it seems to running fine now but its day is coming plus I would love to get rid of some of the xtra weight..it almost 20500lbs now and I think I could drop 1500lbs on it...good luck\n", "contentHtml": "Don't waste you time or money the air cell or fuelcell 3000 we put one on one of our trucks with a C15 Cat and it gets the worse mpg in our fleet around 5.5 I personaly drive a 99 W900 with a 550 Cat and get 6.5 mpg loaded and almost 7. empty pully an insulated tank... We also have 4 trucks with C12 and C13's and all them to seem to be averaging around the same 6.5 to7.5 mpg.....I'm thinking of replacing the C15 with a C12 in my one truck since its has almost 950000 on it, it seems to running fine now but its day is coming plus I would love to get rid of some of the xtra weight..it almost 20500lbs now and I think I could drop 1500lbs on it...good luck ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-03-06", "dateAdded": "2011-04-20T15:13:20Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4060, "firstName": "RUSS", "lastName": "HARRIS", "companyName": "MASON COUNTY TRANSFER INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Mason City", "state": "IL", "userCommentCount": 110, "userLikes": 18, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28088, "content": "I would rebuild the 3406, and stay away from the c-12-13, I owned both and averaged 6.65 mpg., but its a heck of a lot easier with a 550 than a 430...", "contentHtml": "I would rebuild the 3406, and stay away from the c-12-13, I owned both and averaged 6.65 mpg., but its a heck of a lot easier with a 550 than a 430...", "parentReplyId": 21064, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-10-22", "dateAdded": "2011-04-20T21:35:02Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2887, "firstName": "JOE", "lastName": "MATA", "companyName": "JPM GRAIN TRANSPORT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "NEOSHO", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 40, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21065, "content": "i have a 96 pete 379 with the 3406 e and i get around 7 mpg but i have 18 double over with 308 rear end if you can get you rpms down to where they would be at around 55 you will get the best fuel milage at 70 to 75 thats the only way i could get the mpg to be up you dont need a new truck just fine tune it\n", "contentHtml": "i have a 96 pete 379 with the 3406 e and i get around 7 mpg but i have 18 double over with 308 rear end if you can get you rpms down to where they would be at around 55 you will get the best fuel milage at 70 to 75 thats the only way i could get the mpg to be up you dont need a new truck just fine tune it ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-03-10", "dateAdded": "2011-04-21T05:45:15Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4089, "firstName": "Brandon", "lastName": "Hight", "companyName": "B&M EXPRESS TRANSPORT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "San Tan Valley", "state": "AZ", "userCommentCount": 7, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28926, "content": "I would'nt mind overhaulin it but I really need to shed some pounds ,the trucks empty weight is 20500lbs now but if I went to a C12 or 13 and sropped the 18spd to a 13 I think I can shed about 1500lbs, I really like the W900 and have 6 of them but 2 of them that have big Cats and pulling our tanks we're 34000-35000lbs empty..sucks trying to load a 45000lb load\n", "contentHtml": "I would'nt mind overhaulin it but I really need to shed some pounds ,the trucks empty weight is 20500lbs now but if I went to a C12 or 13 and sropped the 18spd to a 13 I think I can shed about 1500lbs, I really like the W900 and have 6 of them but 2 of them that have big Cats and pulling our tanks we're 34000-35000lbs empty..sucks trying to load a 45000lb load ", "parentReplyId": 28088, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-03-06", "dateAdded": "2011-04-21T14:33:22Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4060, "firstName": "RUSS", "lastName": "HARRIS", "companyName": "MASON COUNTY TRANSFER INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Mason City", "state": "IL", "userCommentCount": 110, "userLikes": 18, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21066, "content": "\n How is a 3406E model turned in to a B model? Just curious....\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nHow is a 3406E model turned in to a B model? Just curious.... ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-18", "dateAdded": "2011-04-23T03:54:06Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1374, "firstName": "SEAN", "lastName": "N", "companyName": "SMN ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MURRAY", "state": "KY", "userCommentCount": 38, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21067, "content": "\n what you do is take that nice fancy electric pump and replace it with a old manual pump mount up same cut some wires and your in business of making money its pretty easy but the hard part is getting that pump set up right and if you turn it up make sure you get the air right also so your not just blowing a bunch of fuel in and not enough air \n", "contentHtml": " \r\nwhat you do is take that nice fancy electric pump and replace it with a old manual pump mount up same cut some wires and your in business of making money its pretty easy but the hard part is getting that pump set up right and if you turn it up make sure you get the air right also so your not just blowing a bunch of fuel in and not enough air ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-24T04:34:08Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21068, "content": "\n thats all i did but i have a friend that works for dean cat in kansas city that set the pump and tweaked on the turbo for air thats why my truck is turned up and is a manual motor but still gets good mileage old trucks and old cats set up right are hard to beat but thats just my 2 cents\n \n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nthats all i did but i have a friend that works for dean cat in kansas city that set the pump and tweaked on the turbo for air thats why my truck is turned up and is a manual motor but still gets good mileage old trucks and old cats set up right are hard to beat but thats just my 2 cents \r\n \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-24T04:36:27Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28090, "content": "\n I can't say as I've ever heard of that. On a PEEC engine yes, but, an actual E model no. What is the serial number prefix for that engine that you did?\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nI can't say as I've ever heard of that. On a PEEC engine yes, but, an actual E model no. What is the serial number prefix for that engine that you did? ", "parentReplyId": 21067, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-18", "dateAdded": "2011-04-24T16:54:54Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1374, "firstName": "SEAN", "lastName": "N", "companyName": "SMN ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MURRAY", "state": "KY", "userCommentCount": 38, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28089, "content": "Why would you want to? No way a B model is as fuel efficient as a well tuned E model. At least not in my experience, and I've owned both.", "contentHtml": "Why would you want to? No way a B model is as fuel efficient as a well tuned E model. At least not in my experience, and I've owned both.", "parentReplyId": 21066, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-04", "dateAdded": "2011-04-25T00:10:16Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 340, "firstName": "Steve", "lastName": "Neville", "companyName": "STEVE NEVILLE", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Odebolt", "state": "IA", "userCommentCount": 49, "userLikes": 187, "userDislikes": 3, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21069, "content": "\n well this one does get better fuel mileage as a B model then it was a E model by alot.. no it takes someone that knows what they are doing and not just cobbing up a bunch of wires the truck is 94 kenworth with one of the first 3406 E had all of the bells and wistles an electric motor truck would have and took out the electric pump and installed a new B model pump tweaked on it a little bit added a throttle cable to idle it up when needed and went down the road but a friend that works for cat did all the tweaking on the pump and wires and have never had any problems and the motor was taken out and rebuilt before they put that pump on so yes it does work and yes this truck gets better fuel maileage than alot of brand new trucks and with motor the way it is and transmission only having 8,000 miles and both rear ends with about 70,000 miles i'd say she's going to be around for awhile\n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nwell this one does get better fuel mileage as a B model then it was a E model by alot.. no it takes someone that knows what they are doing and not just cobbing up a bunch of wires the truck is 94 kenworth with one of the first 3406 E had all of the bells and wistles an electric motor truck would have and took out the electric pump and installed a new B model pump tweaked on it a little bit added a throttle cable to idle it up when needed and went down the road but a friend that works for cat did all the tweaking on the pump and wires and have never had any problems and the motor was taken out and rebuilt before they put that pump on so yes it does work and yes this truck gets better fuel maileage than alot of brand new trucks and with motor the way it is and transmission only having 8,000 miles and both rear ends with about 70,000 miles i'd say she's going to be around for awhile \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-25T03:56:44Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21070, "content": "The first E models they had tons of problems..I had one....bad cams..replaced twice..bad computer plugs...This is the major problem..water could get into the plug in and short out the signal or rust the pins...but to go back to a mechanical pump??? wait until you get smoke checked...Think of this...all of that black smoke is unburned fuel...At the time that the first E models came out CAT was on strike with replacement workers ..that really didn't know what they were doing...I had 1 o ring on a plug for my jake missing..the one going to my computer was nicked bad enough that it was letting in moisture and shorting out the signal...And than there was the idiot..that thought that CAT could save a buck and had outsourced the cam shafts...the lobes would flake off...Have you ever replaced that...The first sign is the engine stutters or runs a little rough...And what about all the other electronic sensors???", "contentHtml": "The first E models they had tons of problems..I had one....bad cams..replaced twice..bad computer plugs...This is the major problem..water could get into the plug in and short out the signal or rust the pins...but to go back to a mechanical pump??? wait until you get smoke checked...Think of this...all of that black smoke is unburned fuel...At the time that the first E models came out CAT was on strike with replacement workers ..that really didn't know what they were doing...I had 1 o ring on a plug for my jake missing..the one going to my computer was nicked bad enough that it was letting in moisture and shorting out the signal...And than there was the idiot..that thought that CAT could save a buck and had outsourced the cam shafts...the lobes would flake off...Have you ever replaced that...The first sign is the engine stutters or runs a little rough...And what about all the other electronic sensors???", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T04:34:05Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28091, "content": "Being that the engine you \"converted\" is in a '94 model Kenworth, I think you have a 3406C PEEC, not a 3406E. A 3406E doesn't even have a mounting boss on the timong cover to mount a mechanical pump. In fact, there is no injection pump to replace on a 3406E...just a fuel transfer pump mounted on the front of the engine. The 3406C PEEC used a mechanical injection pump that was operated by a computer-controlled solenoid instead of a mechanical throttle linkage. Problem was these motors didn't perform any better than the full mechanicals, and many guys did the conversion back to full mechanical. I've only seen one \"E\" model running off of a Bosch style mechanical pump, and it took alot more than just changing pumps and cutting wires...\n \n \n \n \n", "contentHtml": "Being that the engine you "converted" is in a '94 model Kenworth, I think you have a 3406C PEEC, not a 3406E. A 3406E doesn't even have a mounting boss on the timong cover to mount a mechanical pump. In fact, there is no injection pump to replace on a 3406E...just a fuel transfer pump mounted on the front of the engine. The 3406C PEEC used a mechanical injection pump that was operated by a computer-controlled solenoid instead of a mechanical throttle linkage. Problem was these motors didn't perform any better than the full mechanicals, and many guys did the conversion back to full mechanical. I've only seen one "E" model running off of a Bosch style mechanical pump, and it took alot more than just changing pumps and cutting wires... \r\n \r\n \r\n \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 21067, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-01-24", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T14:19:01Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3737, "firstName": "Willie", "lastName": "Kramer", "companyName": "KRAMER TRUCKING, INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Goddard", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 8, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28092, "content": "\n You have no idea what your talking about", "contentHtml": "\r\n\tYou have no idea what your talking about", "parentReplyId": 21067, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-04-22", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T15:13:55Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4379, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "ROBINSON", "companyName": "ROBINSON HAY & CATTLE COMPANY", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "WAUZEKA", "state": "WI", "userCommentCount": 1, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21071, "content": "\n no i guess i don't. i'll just leave it at that there's no point in arguing it don't matter to me i know what was done either way so keepa truckin\n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nno i guess i don't. i'll just leave it at that there's no point in arguing it don't matter to me i know what was done either way so keepa truckin \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-04-26T21:51:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28093, "content": "\n Set us straight by giving the engine serial number, or, at least the first three characters. I don't mean any disrespect, just curious.\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nSet us straight by giving the engine serial number, or, at least the first three characters. I don't mean any disrespect, just curious. ", "parentReplyId": 21071, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-18", "dateAdded": "2011-04-30T04:58:24Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1374, "firstName": "SEAN", "lastName": "N", "companyName": "SMN ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MURRAY", "state": "KY", "userCommentCount": 38, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21072, "content": "\n Sorry to bring up an old post...but I totally forgot one good way to get better fuel economy...and it is free...just a couple of minutes and things might improve...Your primary fuel filter...if it has a pet cock at the bottom...tighten it up...they are normally about 1/2 turn loose..They don't leak but they sure will suck air.....you can use your hand or a pair of pliers or water pump pliers...be carefull with the pliers to not over tighten andd break....also found that the larger the primary the more fuel can get through...My pete when i took delivery had a lttle short filter...I put on a longer one and got better hp and economy...\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nSorry to bring up an old post...but I totally forgot one good way to get better fuel economy...and it is free...just a couple of minutes and things might improve...Your primary fuel filter...if it has a pet cock at the bottom...tighten it up...they are normally about 1/2 turn loose..They don't leak but they sure will suck air.....you can use your hand or a pair of pliers or water pump pliers...be carefull with the pliers to not over tighten andd break....also found that the larger the primary the more fuel can get through...My pete when i took delivery had a lttle short filter...I put on a longer one and got better hp and economy... ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-05-04T14:09:31Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 29133, "content": "you might even want to look into a super 10 for trans. they are even a little lighter than a 13 and really don't shift much differently. the only difference is you split every gear.", "contentHtml": "you might even want to look into a super 10 for trans. they are even a little lighter than a 13 and really don't shift much differently. the only difference is you split every gear.", "parentReplyId": 28926, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-04", "dateAdded": "2011-12-04T00:31:42Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1047, "firstName": "CHRISTOPHER", "lastName": "STIER", "companyName": "STIER FARMS INCORPORATED", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "GRAND MEADOW", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 236, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 21073, "content": "I drove a super 10 for 3 years, hated it at first. Then I got the hang of it, and loved it. Wish I had 1 now.", "contentHtml": " I drove a super 10 for 3 years, hated it at first. Then I got the hang of it, and loved it. Wish I had 1 now.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-22", "dateAdded": "2011-12-04T18:01:29Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 828, "firstName": "SAM", "lastName": "MAASS", "companyName": "LMX", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "DAWSON", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 62, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 0, "signUpDate": "2010-07-18", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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