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{ "forumId": 22705, "postTypeId": 1, "postType": "Forum", "forumTitle": "CARRIER - BROKER RELATIONSHIP", "forumContent": "\n Is there anyone else that thinks the Carrier / Broker relationship is broken. My background is engineering and land planning. I had a site engineering company for 8 years until the economy went down in flames. I spent two years as a business consultant helping people start companies and get everything setup. That is how I got involved in freight and transportation. I have read magazines like Logistics Management for years but had no first hand experience. I would just like to here from all of you what you like and or dislike about normal Carrier/ Broker interaction and ways that you would like to see it improved.\n", "forumContentHtml": " \r\nIs there anyone else that thinks the Carrier / Broker relationship is broken. My background is engineering and land planning. I had a site engineering company for 8 years until the economy went down in flames. I spent two years as a business consultant helping people start companies and get everything setup. That is how I got involved in freight and transportation. I have read magazines like Logistics Management for years but had no first hand experience. I would just like to here from all of you what you like and or dislike about normal Carrier/ Broker interaction and ways that you would like to see it improved. 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We all know what happens to rates in both of these scenerios. If carriers are going to use brokers, there needs to be an up front reason. Are you using the broker to run your trucks completely, to help fill gaps, to get paid faster etc.... Every process has to work. The freight has to be found, then tendered, then accepted, then hauled, then billed, etc.\n \n If anything, don't blame the other person for your own failures. Find out how to make yourself successful. Create a niche, work hard, understand the market and your costs associated. Find quality people and take care of them.\n \n There are plenty of opportunities out there, you just need to figure out where you fit in them the most.\n \n", "contentHtml": "There's always going to be barriers between carriers and brokers. I think the common "I'm not making enough" seems to resignate from carriers who haul for brokers frequently. What you need to remember as a whole is there is only so much freight available...sometimes alot and sometimes little. We all know what happens to rates in both of these scenerios. If carriers are going to use brokers, there needs to be an up front reason. Are you using the broker to run your trucks completely, to help fill gaps, to get paid faster etc.... Every process has to work. The freight has to be found, then tendered, then accepted, then hauled, then billed, etc. \r\n \r\nIf anything, don't blame the other person for your own failures. Find out how to make yourself successful. Create a niche, work hard, understand the market and your costs associated. Find quality people and take care of them. \r\n \r\nThere are plenty of opportunities out there, you just need to figure out where you fit in them the most. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-02-22", "dateAdded": "2010-08-09T19:15:45Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 48, "firstName": "JARED", "lastName": "FLINN", "companyName": "BARTLETT GRAIN", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "KANSAS CITY", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 24, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 19842, "content": "I couldn\"t have said it better myself. That reply was right on!!", "contentHtml": "I couldn"t have said it better myself. That reply was right on!!", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-22", "dateAdded": "2010-08-12T13:30:13Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1569, "firstName": "MIKE", "lastName": "HORSTMAN", "companyName": "MICHAEL A HORSTMAN", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "MINSTER", "state": "OH", "userCommentCount": 21, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 19843, "content": "I AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL...THE ONLY THING I WOULD TO ADD IS THAT NOT ALL BROKERS ARE BAD AND NEITHER ARE ALL TRUCKING COMPANIES...YOU MUST KNOW WHO YOU CAN TRUST AND WHO WILL BACK DOOR YOU...THERE ARE GOOD & BAD IN BOTH, SO YOU MUST FIND IT AND BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP ...I KNOW THE INDUSTRY AND I HAVE EXPEREINCE THIS FIRST HAND ON BOTH SIDES SINCE I OWN BOTH...AS A BROKER I HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY TRUCKING COMPANIES...AS A TRUCKING COMPANY WELL I AM JUST ONE OF THE GOOD OLD BOYS NETWORK..EVEN THOUGH I AM A LADY...", "contentHtml": "I AGREE WITH YOU AS WELL...THE ONLY THING I WOULD TO ADD IS THAT NOT ALL BROKERS ARE BAD AND NEITHER ARE ALL TRUCKING COMPANIES...YOU MUST KNOW WHO YOU CAN TRUST AND WHO WILL BACK DOOR YOU...THERE ARE GOOD & BAD IN BOTH, SO YOU MUST FIND IT AND BUILD THAT RELATIONSHIP ...I KNOW THE INDUSTRY AND I HAVE EXPEREINCE THIS FIRST HAND ON BOTH SIDES SINCE I OWN BOTH...AS A BROKER I HAVE GREAT RELATIONSHIPS WITH MY TRUCKING COMPANIES...AS A TRUCKING COMPANY WELL I AM JUST ONE OF THE GOOD OLD BOYS NETWORK..EVEN THOUGH I AM A LADY...", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-10", "dateAdded": "2010-08-12T16:13:31Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1073, "firstName": "Lori", "lastName": "Hatley", "companyName": "LORI'S LARGE CAR BROKERAGE INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Stewartstown", "state": "PA", "userCommentCount": 4, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 19844, "content": "If the brokers are getting you fair rates they are ok. The problem we have today is even merchandisers have no clue what it costs to run a truck. This week I was told trucks we making money @ .82 to1.39 neither is right, but that's the stories that are out there. Not everyone knows the real cost of owning trucks today as the new iron is way more expensive to keep up and what's the real cost of drivers if you pay them enough to make a good living. I know I own 20 of them and don't broker any freight, come talk to my banker if you want, I don't want to.", "contentHtml": "If the brokers are getting you fair rates they are ok. The problem we have today is even merchandisers have no clue what it costs to run a truck. This week I was told trucks we making money @ .82 to1.39 neither is right, but that's the stories that are out there. Not everyone knows the real cost of owning trucks today as the new iron is way more expensive to keep up and what's the real cost of drivers if you pay them enough to make a good living. I know I own 20 of them and don't broker any freight, come talk to my banker if you want, I don't want to.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2010-08-16T02:09:17Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 19845, "content": "\n Thanks everyone for the views and replies. There are a lot of factors involved in this business. We each have to make a decision on how we are to operate our business and how we will interact and engage the existing system. All I was really trying to get out there was that we can get outside of the box and have an open discussion on how it should be run. As carriers, shippers and brokers. We need to take a hard look at everything. Business as usuall is not going to solve the problems that we are faced with today. \n", "contentHtml": " \r\nThanks everyone for the views and replies. There are a lot of factors involved in this business. We each have to make a decision on how we are to operate our business and how we will interact and engage the existing system. All I was really trying to get out there was that we can get outside of the box and have an open discussion on how it should be run. As carriers, shippers and brokers. We need to take a hard look at everything. Business as usuall is not going to solve the problems that we are faced with today. 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Posted on Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 12:04 PM CST in DAWSONVILLE, GA

CARRIER - BROKER RELATIONSHIP

Is there anyone else that thinks the Carrier / Broker relationship is broken. My background is engineering and land planning. I had a site engineering company for 8 years until the economy went down in flames. I spent two years as a business consultant helping people start companies and get everything setup. That is how I got involved in freight and transportation. I have read magazines like Logistics Management for years but had no first hand experience. I would just like to here from all of you what you like and or dislike about normal Carrier/ Broker interaction and ways that you would like to see it improved.

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