CATOOSA, OK FERTILIZER

Feb 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Just looking for some info. on pulling fertilizer out of catoosa. What is average wait time to get loaded? How do they load you? I have pulled out of other fert. warehouses and they all use a scaled overhead bin so you know exactly what goes into each hopper. Is this the method used there, or is a direct dump out of a payloader or something else of that sort? I use roughly 650 ton of urea myself each year and it would definately be worth while to haul my own urea right from the port. With diong this I can cut out broker fees, handling fees, etc. I figured it would pay me roughly $3.75 loaded mile(775 miles one way) in savings from buying it localy. Right now at the port gavilon is paying $1.08 a bushel for corn more then my local market, so I could haul corn down for roughly $1.30 mile (I know that is low, but may as well go down loaded, otherwise I will just haul to local markets.

Feb 10, 2012 at 12:58 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Just looking for some info. on pulling fertilizer out of catoosa. What is average wait time to get loaded? How do they load you? I have pulled out of other fert. warehouses and they all use a scaled overhead bin so you know exactly what goes into each hopper. Is this the method used there, or is a direct dump out of a payloader or something else of that sort?

I use roughly 650 ton of urea myself each year and it would definately be worth while to haul my own urea right from the port. With diong this I can cut out broker fees, handling fees, etc. I figured it would pay me roughly $3.75 loaded mile(775 miles one way) in savings from buying it localy. Right now at the port gavilon is paying $1.08 a bushel for corn more then my local market, so I could haul corn down for roughly $1.30 mile (I know that is low, but may as well go down loaded, otherwise I will just haul to local markets.

Replied on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 09:28 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It will depend on which side you load on. If you load on the east (Debruce) side you load on the scales. If you load on the west (Gavolin/Catoosa Fert/Peavy) side you are loaded by a loader off of a belt. The east side has two load outs. One for haz-mat and one for the rest. The west has two scales and five or six load outs. Wait time is a guess. It just depends on the day. I have driven right in and I have had to wait two hours.

Replied on Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 09:28 PM CST

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It will depend on which side you load on. If you load on the east (Debruce) side you load on the scales. If you load on the west (Gavolin/Catoosa Fert/Peavy) side you are loaded by a loader off of a belt. The east side has two load outs. One for haz-mat and one for the rest. The west has two scales and five or six load outs. Wait time is a guess. It just depends on the day. I have driven right in and I have had to wait two hours.

Replied on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:34 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. They aren't as smooth and efficent as pine bend in Minneapolis area. They get the job done ussually your under weight when you come out and they really don't like to reload more on after the fact. We generally don't see large lines in that area to load. Looks like you would be ahead of the truck with some margin so that is good. You maybe able net even more by letting someone haul those loads for you.

Replied on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 09:34 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

They aren't as smooth and efficent as pine bend in Minneapolis area. They get the job done ussually your under weight when you come out and they really don't like to reload more on after the fact. We generally don't see large lines in that area to load. Looks like you would be ahead of the truck with some margin so that is good. You maybe able net even more by letting someone haul those loads for you.

Replied on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:39 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. You people running in for 1.30 a mile are what is wrong with the hopper industry. I make a living with my truck. I can not write anything off. I need more than you do to to make a living and you cut my throat. That is why I sold my hopper for less than I paid for it. You are my worst enemy.

Replied on Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 11:39 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

You people running in for 1.30 a mile are what is wrong with the hopper industry. I make a living with my truck. I can not write anything off. I need more than you do to to make a living and you cut my throat. That is why I sold my hopper for less than I paid for it. You are my worst enemy.

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:39 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I guess I wasn't clear I was thinking let someone haul the fert up @ a good rate. Just forget the load going down there are much better loads going down than that. Although the amount of cheap frac sand coming north is killing the rates going south so we may need 3.75 a mile to get north before long. By the way I qoute that kind of rate when asked for a rate. How many people do you know have the balls to even ask for that kind of money? The thing is in the hopper industry we need that kind of money to grow it and support it like it should be. By the way alot of loads pay that before everybody decides what the truck will take to do it, we are our worst enemys.

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 07:39 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I guess I wasn't clear I was thinking let someone haul the fert up @ a good rate. Just forget the load going down there are much better loads going down than that. Although the amount of cheap frac sand coming north is killing the rates going south so we may need 3.75 a mile to get north before long. By the way I qoute that kind of rate when asked for a rate. How many people do you know have the balls to even ask for that kind of money? The thing is in the hopper industry we need that kind of money to grow it and support it like it should be. By the way alot of loads pay that before everybody decides what the truck will take to do it, we are our worst enemys.

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:00 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Is fertilizer out of Catoosa considered exempt.......and is any of it considered Haz-mat

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 09:00 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Is fertilizer out of Catoosa considered exempt.......and is any of it considered Haz-mat

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. riley check the other forum thread you posted on this is from one SD to another just tring to help i responded on there to and it sounds like you kinda got a plan it should equal out for you and i think from your other posting you have a idea what it takes to run your truck but you are not for hire so it should be easier for you cause everthing you own what is in you trailer and dont need the big insurace we do but first check with yours and see if they will let you run out that far and as for deryl ? some fert is hazmat ask first before booking the load

Replied on Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 10:55 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

riley check the other forum thread you posted on this is from one SD to another just tring to help i responded on there to and it sounds like you kinda got a plan it should equal out for you and i think from your other posting you have a idea what it takes to run your truck but you are not for hire so it should be easier for you cause everthing you own what is in you trailer and dont need the big insurace we do but first check with yours and see if they will let you run out that far

and as for deryl ? some fert is hazmat ask first before booking the load