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Why do you people think I keep saying EPA needs to go away. Plus when they (EPA) took the sulphur out of the fuel we lost another 10% of our fuel mileage and a lot of lubricity also. It's a rude awakening when you go from a non egr truck to an EGR truck. My cost to run 8 of these trucks was 500k more than my non egr trucks over 2 years I quit counting after that.\n \n This only adds to the other costs that continually go up.", "contentHtml": "It's an EGR motor we have 4 of them with the same 14L, your on the bottom edge of what they get, but 6 is the best I've seen out of mine and that's running @ 65 or less and an APU on the side. \r\nThis is the issue no one wants to tell is that motor and many others (cummins, cat, volvo ect) lost 1 mpg last 1/2 as long and cost 3 times as much to keep up as non egr equiped trucks. Why do you people think I keep saying EPA needs to go away. Plus when they (EPA) took the sulphur out of the fuel we lost another 10% of our fuel mileage and a lot of lubricity also. It's a rude awakening when you go from a non egr truck to an EGR truck. My cost to run 8 of these trucks was 500k more than my non egr trucks over 2 years I quit counting after that. \r\n \r\nThis only adds to the other costs that continually go up. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-12-31T15:45:35Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22026, "content": "winter fuel for sure will get you less MPG overhead will help if its out and bad fuel injecters is a big thing we had a c 12 that was getting low 5s and high 4s new injectors and over head and it went right back to 6.5 good luck", "contentHtml": "winter fuel for sure will get you less MPG overhead will help if its out and bad fuel injecters is a big thing we had a c 12 that was getting low 5s and high 4s new injectors and over head and it went right back to 6.5 good luck", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-05", "dateAdded": "2012-01-10T02:11:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 466, "firstName": "RONNIE", "lastName": "WHITE", "companyName": "DOUBLE W", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "SPRING HILL", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 12, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22027, "content": "get the egr and turbo and all that shit off, they will run great, PDI, will get u there, i Guess pittsburg can too but watever!!\n \n", "contentHtml": "get the egr and turbo and all that shit off, they will run great, PDI, will get u there, i Guess pittsburg can too but watever!! \r\n ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-01-05", "dateAdded": "2012-01-17T03:36:13Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3542, "firstName": "CHARLIE", "lastName": "MILLER", "companyName": "COMMODITY CONCEPTS RAIL & TRANSFER LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "White Pigeon", "state": "MI", "userCommentCount": 10, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22028, "content": "We run 9 of these 08 14L Detroits, running 90% loaded miles at 85,500. We have our trucks turned down to 68 mph as well. Our fleet average is just under 5.5 mpg.\n The best driver of the bunch never hits 6 mpg no matter how hard he tries. On winter fuel we are lucky to hit 5 mpg.", "contentHtml": "We run 9 of these 08 14L Detroits, running 90% loaded miles at 85,500. We have our trucks turned down to 68 mph as well. Our fleet average is just under 5.5 mpg. \r\nThe best driver of the bunch never hits 6 mpg no matter how hard he tries. On winter fuel we are lucky to hit 5 mpg. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-03-31", "dateAdded": "2012-01-18T14:53:56Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 4230, "firstName": "CHARLES", "lastName": "CLRK", "companyName": "FEED MERCANTILE TRANSPORT INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "GARDEN CITY", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 1, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28340, "content": "finally an honest answer", "contentHtml": "finally an honest answer", "parentReplyId": 22028, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2012-01-18T15:28:12Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28341, "content": "\n Probably true with them big ol 14 liter pigs, but did you ever see chevrolet put a big block 454 in a chevette? Or ford put a 460 in a pinto during the 70's gas crunch. Drivers today are spoiled and dont need 5-600hp to go up and down the road, but thats my 2 cents though and probaly why I get passed by grandma in her 4 clyinder pinto also every day, but you know what I still make it there.", "contentHtml": "\r\n\tProbably true with them big ol 14 liter pigs, but did you ever see chevrolet put a big block 454 in a chevette? Or ford put a 460 in a pinto during the 70's gas crunch. Drivers today are spoiled and dont need 5-600hp to go up and down the road, but thats my 2 cents though and probaly why I get passed by grandma in her 4 clyinder pinto also every day, but you know what I still make it there.", "parentReplyId": 22028, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-30", "dateAdded": "2012-01-19T00:28:10Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 906, "firstName": "RON", "lastName": "MILLER", "companyName": "BIG HAMMER INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Ravenna", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 120, "userLikes": 75, "userDislikes": 96, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22029, "content": "I am running a 3406 Cat, pulling a reefer. I get 5.7 mpg if I stay under 65 mph. The second I go over 65 I can feel what I already know, the milage is going down. Try holding your speed down a little more, it made a differance for me.", "contentHtml": "I am running a 3406 Cat, pulling a reefer. I get 5.7 mpg if I stay under 65 mph. The second I go over 65 I can feel what I already know, the milage is going down. Try holding your speed down a little more, it made a differance for me.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-22", "dateAdded": "2012-01-22T14:22:51Z", "likes": 1, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 828, "firstName": "SAM", "lastName": "MAASS", "companyName": "LMX", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "DAWSON", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 62, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22030, "content": "EGR.\n Been there---done that. Had same results.\n ", "contentHtml": "EGR. \r\nBeen there---done that. Had same results. \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-10-11", "dateAdded": "2012-01-27T03:23:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2809, "firstName": "GARY ", "lastName": "MORRIS", "companyName": "MORRIS TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "GATEWOOD", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 57, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22031, "content": "we run all mercedes 12.8L Freightliners set at 65 mph - - have a fleet average at right around 6.5 mpg - includes unload time with blower - - we run pneumatics. Also - - we have 10 - 2012 Cascadias with the DD13 and are seeing over 7 mpg with those - - they have only been on the road for 4 months or so so not a real accurate number yet - - need another 2 months data on those.", "contentHtml": "we run all mercedes 12.8L Freightliners set at 65 mph - - have a fleet average at right around 6.5 mpg - includes unload time with blower - - we run pneumatics. Also - - we have 10 - 2012 Cascadias with the DD13 and are seeing over 7 mpg with those - - they have only been on the road for 4 months or so so not a real accurate number yet - - need another 2 months data on those. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-10-14", "dateAdded": "2012-01-27T16:21:42Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 5606, "firstName": "KYLE", "lastName": "VEDEN", "companyName": "BUESING BULK TRANSPORT, INC.", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Long Lake", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 8, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28342, "content": "Hey Kyle, what do you have the engine set for power? We had some of the same setup, but wasn't seeing the same numbers. Our rpms were set lower, and I'm not convinced that wasn't part of the problem. Most times I've seen if you cut the power, the fuel mileage drops. Do you see this?", "contentHtml": "Hey Kyle, what do you have the engine set for power? We had some of the same setup, but wasn't seeing the same numbers. Our rpms were set lower, and I'm not convinced that wasn't part of the problem. Most times I've seen if you cut the power, the fuel mileage drops. Do you see this? ", "parentReplyId": 22031, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-18", "dateAdded": "2012-01-27T17:03:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1332, "firstName": "JACKIE", "lastName": "MASON", "companyName": "D&D TRKNG AND SVCS", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Delphos", "state": "OH", "userCommentCount": 103, "userLikes": 5, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 22032, "content": "Kyle what percentage of bounce miles do you have? Most pneumatics I know of are running 50%. With my hopper I'm close to 80% loaded miles and that makes a huge difference in fuel mileage.", "contentHtml": "Kyle what percentage of bounce miles do you have? Most pneumatics I know of are running 50%. With my hopper I'm close to 80% loaded miles and that makes a huge difference in fuel mileage.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-12-23", "dateAdded": "2012-01-28T04:20:55Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3436, "firstName": "CHRIS", "lastName": "BECKER", "companyName": "BECKER TRANSPORT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "FARIBAULT", "state": "MN", "userCommentCount": 7, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28343, "content": "Don't forget that you have less drag with pneumatics than you do with hoppers..Hoppers might be better when empty to keep the tarp inthe loaded position...just like the back of a pick up..the wind does go inside and forms drag..If you have pneumatics there isnt much drag..unless the ribs are on the outside..like on pickle barrels..they ae small on both ends and tapper out to the wide part in he middle..towhee the air doesn't have much to grab onto...also as stated pneumatics normally have a high rate of deadhead miles compaired to hoppers...80,000 compaired to 30,000 makes a big difference..also it depends where you run...if it is flat like Nebraska you will do better than if you run in Iowa..where you have all of the up and down hills...or in the west where you have a lot of mountain driving..", "contentHtml": "Don't forget that you have less drag with pneumatics than you do with hoppers..Hoppers might be better when empty to keep the tarp inthe loaded position...just like the back of a pick up..the wind does go inside and forms drag..If you have pneumatics there isnt much drag..unless the ribs are on the outside..like on pickle barrels..they ae small on both ends and tapper out to the wide part in he middle..towhee the air doesn't have much to grab onto...also as stated pneumatics normally have a high rate of deadhead miles compaired to hoppers...80,000 compaired to 30,000 makes a big difference..also it depends where you run...if it is flat like Nebraska you will do better than if you run in Iowa..where you have all of the up and down hills...or in the west where you have a lot of mountain driving..", "parentReplyId": 22032, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2012-01-28T19:16:03Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 0, "signUpDate": "2010-11-04", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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Can anyone tell me why it is damn near impossible to get 5.5 mpg out of my 14L Detroit? its dropped down to 5.2-5.3 now so i'm having them run an over head but un freakin real....no comments if u think they are junk just looking for some positive critism here and/ or know how

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