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If you can't pay yourself that kind of wage are you running to cheap?", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2011-02-23T23:09:53Z", "lastPost": "2011-02-23T23:09:53Z", "views": 2542, "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "messageCount": 19, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "owner-op-wages", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/owner-op-wages/", "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "replies": [ { "replyId": 20785, "content": "\n The sad thing is ...even 50,000 or 60,000 is a little low..with the amount of true hours that you work per year ...if you paid yourself as an employee lets say hourly..with overtime after 40 hours a week...We would park our trucks and get a job at Mc Donalds and get a raise....\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nThe sad thing is ...even 50,000 or 60,000 is a little low..with the amount of true hours that you work per year ...if you paid yourself as an employee lets say hourly..with overtime after 40 hours a week...We would park our trucks and get a job at Mc Donalds and get a raise.... ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-12", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T01:15:43Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3078, "firstName": "JEFF", "lastName": "PEARSON", "companyName": "C & R TRUCKING INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PAYSON", "state": "UT", "userCommentCount": 927, "userLikes": 225, "userDislikes": 94, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20786, "content": "\n made 53,250 according to my taxes in the 6 months that i have owned my own truck and spent 15,789.93 on fuel to be exact but still between payments and insurance and repairs its not as much as everyone really thinks it is, after its all said and done. and i also spent 2,067 on parts at kenworth alone\n \n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nmade 53,250 according to my taxes in the 6 months that i have owned my own truck and spent 15,789.93 on fuel to be exact but still between payments and insurance and repairs its not as much as everyone really thinks it is, after its all said and done. and i also spent 2,067 on parts at kenworth alone \r\n \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T02:11:20Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20787, "content": "Wow, the wages are great, but you must not run very many miles to spend that small amount for fuel in a 6 month period. It cost's me about 36-40k for fuel in 6 months right now running about 2,400 miles a week !!", "contentHtml": "Wow, the wages are great, but you must not run very many miles to spend that small amount for fuel in a 6 month period. It cost's me about 36-40k for fuel in 6 months right now running about 2,400 miles a week !!", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-21", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T02:20:23Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 823, "firstName": "ZACHARY", "lastName": "SMITH", "companyName": "Z.W.SMITH TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "SUGARCREEK", "state": "OH", "userCommentCount": 16, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20788, "content": "\n no not really i drive about 300 to 400 miles daily home leave at 6 and home at 3 on a contract that i started from day one on my own till this day\n ", "contentHtml": " \r\nno not really i drive about 300 to 400 miles daily home leave at 6 and home at 3 on a contract that i started from day one on my own till this day \r\n", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-06-08", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T02:54:02Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1790, "firstName": "TYE ", "lastName": "MORRISON", "companyName": "TM", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CENTERVIEW", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 51, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 27996, "content": "I assuming that is 53250 gross.", "contentHtml": "I assuming that is 53250 gross.", "parentReplyId": 20786, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T13:02:40Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 27995, "content": "I didn't say it's great wages, I feel they need to be much higher. We have a limiting factor out there called low freight rates. WHY? We say we control our own destiny, but we cut the other guys rate just to get a few more loads to lose more money.", "contentHtml": "I didn't say it's great wages, I feel they need to be much higher. We have a limiting factor out there called low freight rates. WHY? We say we control our own destiny, but we cut the other guys rate just to get a few more loads to lose more money.", "parentReplyId": 20785, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T13:19:10Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20789, "content": "So what you are saying is that after fuel you are making about $1560 a week? How cheap is your ins. your truck payment and your trailer payment? Now don't get me wrong but if you were clearing 1560 a week after all of that you would be doing good. How about tires, oil changes, fuel filters. I figure that half of what I make goes directly for fuel. So I need to run more miles to get more pay. If after I have all repairs and insurance and payments made I make 3000 clear a month. I had a good month. But yes we do work to cheap for the hours worked. But its about what and how I feel about myself and what I've accomplished. And someday maybe someday I can relax a little. Self worth is a great benifit to this wicked world.", "contentHtml": "So what you are saying is that after fuel you are making about $1560 a week? How cheap is your ins. your truck payment and your trailer payment? Now don't get me wrong but if you were clearing 1560 a week after all of that you would be doing good. How about tires, oil changes, fuel filters. I figure that half of what I make goes directly for fuel. So I need to run more miles to get more pay. If after I have all repairs and insurance and payments made I make 3000 clear a month. I had a good month. But yes we do work to cheap for the hours worked. But its about what and how I feel about myself and what I've accomplished. And someday maybe someday I can relax a little. Self worth is a great benifit to this wicked world.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-10-05", "dateAdded": "2011-02-24T15:52:33Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2777, "firstName": "BILL", "lastName": "GEDITZ", "companyName": "BILL GEDITZ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "IPSWICH", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 3, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 27997, "content": "I love what i do for a living even though I don't drive very much anymore. This is the point I'm trying to make. You just said you make 3000 on a good month. Now be in my position and pay a driver 4000 plus benifits and bonuses how much is left. Even with great drivers, they may not watch the bottom line like you do as an owner. Now I guess my costs are to high for the rates that are out there, but i don't think the driver or yourself is the place to cut.", "contentHtml": "I love what i do for a living even though I don't drive very much anymore. This is the point I'm trying to make. You just said you make 3000 on a good month. Now be in my position and pay a driver 4000 plus benifits and bonuses how much is left. Even with great drivers, they may not watch the bottom line like you do as an owner. Now I guess my costs are to high for the rates that are out there, but i don't think the driver or yourself is the place to cut.", "parentReplyId": 20789, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-02-25T12:54:00Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28911, "content": "I agree with you 100% we do need higher rates. Especially now with fuel going up out of this world. As o/o we need to become a team and not a competitor to make this work for everyone. I wouldn't cut myself nor if I had a driver. You can't, everybody wants to pay the least to profit the most. At some pt. someone has to say enough is enough.\n \n", "contentHtml": "I agree with you 100% we do need higher rates. Especially now with fuel going up out of this world. As o/o we need to become a team and not a competitor to make this work for everyone. I wouldn't cut myself nor if I had a driver. You can't, everybody wants to pay the least to profit the most. At some pt. someone has to say enough is enough. \r\n ", "parentReplyId": 27997, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-10-05", "dateAdded": "2011-02-25T16:22:41Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 2777, "firstName": "BILL", "lastName": "GEDITZ", "companyName": "BILL GEDITZ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "IPSWICH", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 3, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20790, "content": "I've been an owner operator in the grain hauling business for 11 years . Things are definetly getting tougher than ever out here to stay busy and profitable at the same time. At the end of the week my truck has to average $1.75-1.80 per mile for all miles driven in order to survive out here. That pays me as a driver about $55,000 for the year. Not getting rich at that rate but surviving and keeping my cutomers satisfied.", "contentHtml": "I've been an owner operator in the grain hauling business for 11 years . Things are definetly getting tougher than ever out here to stay busy and profitable at the same time. At the end of the week my truck has to average $1.75-1.80 per mile for all miles driven in order to survive out here. That pays me as a driver about $55,000 for the year. Not getting rich at that rate but surviving and keeping my cutomers satisfied. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-21", "dateAdded": "2011-02-27T17:23:12Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 823, "firstName": "ZACHARY", "lastName": "SMITH", "companyName": "Z.W.SMITH TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "SUGARCREEK", "state": "OH", "userCommentCount": 16, "userLikes": 1, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 27998, "content": "\n We need more guys like you out here.", "contentHtml": "\r\n\tWe need more guys like you out here.", "parentReplyId": 20790, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-02-28T14:37:41Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20791, "content": "SO FAR THIS YEAR JAN 1ST TO MARCH 1ST\n REVENUE:$24824 (COLLECTED YOU CANT COUNT IT TIL ITS IN THE BANK BOYS!)\n EXPENSES:$19804 (FUEL ALONE $11191)\n MILES:18594\n I'm just gettin by. I am not bragging or complaining. Yes rates need to improve quickly or everybody is goin to hurt and bad soon. I try to do all the right things, negotiate rates, choose only the excellent brokers, stay away from poor freight areas as much as possible. With that said, as long as someone is still saying yes to the cheap loads, the few of us out heretrying to do it right will never be able to change the system. \n \n I may never be a millionaire, I live in a struggling farm area with few jobs, and my kids have a roof, more food than they can eat, and shoes on their feet so I guess I will keep on keepin on\n", "contentHtml": "SO FAR THIS YEAR JAN 1ST TO MARCH 1ST \r\nREVENUE:$24824 (COLLECTED YOU CANT COUNT IT TIL ITS IN THE BANK BOYS!) \r\nEXPENSES:$19804 (FUEL ALONE $11191) \r\nMILES:18594 \r\nI'm just gettin by. I am not bragging or complaining. Yes rates need to improve quickly or everybody is goin to hurt and bad soon. I try to do all the right things, negotiate rates, choose only the excellent brokers, stay away from poor freight areas as much as possible. With that said, as long as someone is still saying yes to the cheap loads, the few of us out heretrying to do it right will never be able to change the system. \r\n \r\nI may never be a millionaire, I live in a struggling farm area with few jobs, and my kids have a roof, more food than they can eat, and shoes on their feet so I guess I will keep on keepin on \r\n ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-05-19", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T00:16:37Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1453, "firstName": "RICHARD", "lastName": "SCHULTZ", "companyName": "RICHARD L SCHULTZ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "LINCOLN", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 45, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 27999, "content": "One of my office personel's better half is an owner op running flatbed. He's thinking Walmart greeting maybe a better job @ least he'd be home every nite. 30K last year net to him and I thought those guys were better than us hopper guys.", "contentHtml": "One of my office personel's better half is an owner op running flatbed. He's thinking Walmart greeting maybe a better job @ least he'd be home every nite. 30K last year net to him and I thought those guys were better than us hopper guys.", "parentReplyId": 20791, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T00:55:10Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20792, "content": "You guys can have this fight Ive been trucking since 1973 and my father before me I want to say thanks to all you guys there have been good times talkn with ya'll but I have to say I've been offered a job in a dam office Yuck! but its 4000 a month take home and benifits whats THAT LOL! and I dont have to worry about fuel, break downs not sein my wife of 42 years only 1 night a week and so on you boys know the life wish I could keep running but 38 years on the road and Nothen to show for it yes there was a time it raised our kids but now guys come on. For me PLEASE take a stand they are breaking every one of us slowly TAKE a stand to all farwell happy trails and KEEP ON TRUCKING FOR ME!! Thanks!", "contentHtml": "You guys can have this fight Ive been trucking since 1973 and my father before me I want to say thanks to all you guys there have been good times talkn with ya'll but I have to say I've been offered a job in a dam office Yuck! but its 4000 a month take home and benifits whats THAT LOL! and I dont have to worry about fuel, break downs not sein my wife of 42 years only 1 night a week and so on you boys know the life wish I could keep running but 38 years on the road and Nothen to show for it yes there was a time it raised our kids but now guys come on. For me PLEASE take a stand they are breaking every one of us slowly TAKE a stand to all farwell happy trails and KEEP ON TRUCKING FOR ME!! Thanks!", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-11-15", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T01:22:07Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3090, "firstName": "TOM ", "lastName": "DRAKE", "companyName": "HARD TIMES TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "BROWNVILLE", "state": "KS", "userCommentCount": 19, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20793, "content": "Dear Bill, spend more time trucking and less time on computer and don't worry about the small stuff.", "contentHtml": "Dear Bill, spend more time trucking and less time on computer and don't worry about the small stuff.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2011-02-24", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T02:43:37Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 3991, "firstName": "MILLER", "lastName": "H", "companyName": "RANDY MILLER", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "GACKLE", "state": "ND", "userCommentCount": 1, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28000, "content": "Good luck and we'll try to make you proud and put some dignity back in this business. They can't keep us down forever.", "contentHtml": "Good luck and we'll try to make you proud and put some dignity back in this business. They can't keep us down forever.", "parentReplyId": 20792, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T13:36:28Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 20794, "content": "\n The only thing that is screwing everybody in the f ing trucking is people that talk so called back hauls. Its bull shit guys, there is always someone within a 20 miles area that wants the load for a normal haul, but there are guys out there that cut the rate in half for a so called back haul and screw the other guys. Its fucking bull shit guys there should be no such thing as a back haul!!!!\n", "contentHtml": " \r\nThe only thing that is screwing everybody in the f ing trucking is people that talk so called back hauls. Its bull shit guys, there is always someone within a 20 miles area that wants the load for a normal haul, but there are guys out there that cut the rate in half for a so called back haul and screw the other guys. Its fucking bull shit guys there should be no such thing as a back haul!!!! ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-09", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T14:33:18Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 608, "firstName": "ZACH", "lastName": "BUSH", "companyName": "Z & E TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "KINGSVILLE", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 93, "userLikes": 14, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 28001, "content": "You seem to be the one trying to expand in this climate. Just be sure your loads work before you get to bent out of shape. I see this same thing everyday, but right now loads aren't getting hauled as easily so don't take it if it doesn't work. You may have to develope a new lane if your old one doesn't work. Just part of trucking, please remember to pay yourself also. That's the part most guys forget including myself.", "contentHtml": "You seem to be the one trying to expand in this climate. Just be sure your loads work before you get to bent out of shape. I see this same thing everyday, but right now loads aren't getting hauled as easily so don't take it if it doesn't work. You may have to develope a new lane if your old one doesn't work. Just part of trucking, please remember to pay yourself also. That's the part most guys forget including myself.", "parentReplyId": 20794, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "dateAdded": "2011-03-02T16:03:30Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 242, "firstName": "DALE", "lastName": "SCHUT", "companyName": "SCHUT FARMS TRANSPORTATION INC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "CHESTER", "state": "SD", "userCommentCount": 170, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 0, "signUpDate": "2010-03-03", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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Posted on Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 6:09 PM CST in CHESTER, SD

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Do you pay yourself 50-60K a year and if not why? The reason I ask is that it costs me as an owner that or more to hire a driver. If you can't pay yourself that kind of wage are you running to cheap?

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