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Thanks in advance for the input!", "forumContentHtml": "We have decided to bite the bullet and switch our small fleet over to electronic logs. \nAs you all know lines in the hopper business are inevitable, and it messes with a drivers drive time and the hours the truck can roll to make money.\n\nWhat are some things you have done to combat these downtime issues due to wait times? I.E. Detention pay, charge more for a load where you know there will be a long wait...\n\nMy thoughts where to start enforcing a detention pay of $50-$75/hr after two hours. I know most of you are thinking good luck but if more carriers start enforcing this, it would just become the norm forcing the shipper and the reciever to speed up their process or paying a fine.\n\nThanks in advance for the input!", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2016-03-08T13:46:33Z", "lastPost": "2016-03-09T19:37:40Z", "views": 3632, "likes": 2, "dislikes": 0, "messageCount": 9, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "switching-to-elds-looking-for-some-input", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/switching-to-elds-looking-for-some-input/", "userId": 63166, "firstName": "RANDY", "lastName": "FUJAN", "companyName": "TRIPLE F ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Fremont", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 14, "userLikes": 2, "replies": [ { "replyId": 35364, "content": "$65.00 per hour or $750.00 per day layover. You are in the right range.\n", "contentHtml": "$65.00 per hour or $750.00 per day layover. You are in the right range. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-06-26", "dateAdded": "2016-03-08T15:41:04Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 11426, "firstName": "ALFRED", "lastName": "JORDAN", "companyName": "POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PECULIAR", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 1182, "userLikes": 206, "userDislikes": 6, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35365, "content": "I agree, as a broker, we have tried and have been sucessful on detention and even TONU. With ELD's going into affect these HAVE to be implemented. This is no differrent than Refeer, Dry Van, or even Flatbed trailers in my opinion and we give what ever we receive straight back to the driver. They earned it, they get it!", "contentHtml": "I agree, as a broker, we have tried and have been sucessful on detention and even TONU. With ELD's going into affect these HAVE to be implemented. This is no differrent than Refeer, Dry Van, or even Flatbed trailers in my opinion and we give what ever we receive straight back to the driver. They earned it, they get it!", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-04-29", "dateAdded": "2016-03-08T15:50:06Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 1, "approved": 1, "userId": 1032, "firstName": "BRENT", "lastName": "WEST", "companyName": "CT FREIGHT SERVICES", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Omaha", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 26, "userLikes": 29, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35366, "content": "I was thinking about what a cap should be and $750 sounds good because that's what the truck could have made if it wasn't sitting. Brent thanks for the input, we do need brokers that are willing to stand beside us on this and not take a cut out of it. I know from the loads we've pulled for your company, you run a very fair and honest brokerage service. We need more of that so rates stay true and we can all make some money.", "contentHtml": "I was thinking about what a cap should be and $750 sounds good because that's what the truck could have made if it wasn't sitting.\n\nBrent thanks for the input, we do need brokers that are willing to stand beside us on this and not take a cut out of it. I know from the loads we've pulled for your company, you run a very fair and honest brokerage service. We need more of that so rates stay true and we can all make some money.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2015-07-16", "dateAdded": "2016-03-08T16:36:24Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 63166, "firstName": "RANDY", "lastName": "FUJAN", "companyName": "TRIPLE F ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Fremont", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 14, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35371, "content": "Thank you for the kind words, we at CT (between myself and Robb) try to work more for the truck than the customer, there will always be loads that need to move but good drivers are hard to find. I will also be fair to the customers as well in that I am not trying to over charge them on rates so I can make more on the margins. Either way it's all about give and take. I did have this happen to me today, had a driver going into a location and they Laugh Out Loud canceled a load on me (moved it actually to a later date). We charged them a TONU fee of $250 for the truck because he already brought a load this way that he wouldn't have had he not had the load to return with. That is a Truck Ordered and then Not Used. All the money goes straight to the truck. Driver bills us for it and we process it back to the customer.", "contentHtml": "Thank you for the kind words, we at CT (between myself and Robb) try to work more for the truck than the customer, there will always be loads that need to move but good drivers are hard to find. I will also be fair to the customers as well in that I am not trying to over charge them on rates so I can make more on the margins. Either way it's all about give and take. I did have this happen to me today, had a driver going into a location and they Laugh Out Loud canceled a load on me (moved it actually to a later date). We charged them a TONU fee of $250 for the truck because he already brought a load this way that he wouldn't have had he not had the load to return with. That is a Truck Ordered and then Not Used. All the money goes straight to the truck. Driver bills us for it and we process it back to the customer. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-04-29", "dateAdded": "2016-03-08T21:25:44Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 1032, "firstName": "BRENT", "lastName": "WEST", "companyName": "CT FREIGHT SERVICES", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Omaha", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 26, "userLikes": 29, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35375, "content": "May help with wait times on longer distance loads, if the receiver gives a damn. But with 100 trucks lined up out the gate who cares if they lose a few. Until we all stop going into these places nothing will change. On the local level we compete against to many trucks that don't have to have ELDs or even authority. Guys that are scraping by day to day, glad to wait in line 5 hours for $190 to truck. \n \n Just today day one of my drivers had unloaded a load of seed beans and needed to go back for another. 220 mile dead head, but can't unload until tomorrow. He wanted to pick up a load on the way, kill some time. Load go's in to the dreaded \"slow field\". He says I hear it's 2 hours max, that is lightning fast at this place. What the hell I think it's for a good customer. Almost 6 hours before he got out of there. No use asking for anything its not there problem. They we're dumping trucks, nothing broke. Just the way it is, don't like it don't come back. And we usually don't. The elevator we pulled the load for they won't pay for the wait it wasn't their facility. And 6-4 hours of detention would eat up any profit in the load. \n \n If my driver was on ELDs he would have been done for the day. Many of you will say that's good. But he would rather go up the road and be ready to load in morning", "contentHtml": "May help with wait times on longer distance loads, if the receiver gives a damn. But with 100 trucks lined up out the gate who cares if they lose a few. Until we all stop going into these places nothing will change. On the local level we compete against to many trucks that don't have to have ELDs or even authority. Guys that are scraping by day to day, glad to wait in line 5 hours for $190 to truck. \r\n \r\nJust today day one of my drivers had unloaded a load of seed beans and needed to go back for another. 220 mile dead head, but can't unload until tomorrow. He wanted to pick up a load on the way, kill some time. Load go's in to the dreaded "slow field". He says I hear it's 2 hours max, that is lightning fast at this place. What the hell I think it's for a good customer. Almost 6 hours before he got out of there. No use asking for anything its not there problem. They we're dumping trucks, nothing broke. Just the way it is, don't like it don't come back. And we usually don't. The elevator we pulled the load for they won't pay for the wait it wasn't their facility. And 6-4 hours of detention would eat up any profit in the load. \r\n \r\nIf my driver was on ELDs he would have been done for the day. Many of you will say that's good. But he would rather go up the road and be ready to load in morning", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-09-23", "dateAdded": "2016-03-09T01:03:56Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 12197, "firstName": "DANIEL", "lastName": "CORBIN", "companyName": "LOST HIGHWAY TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "COLUMBIA", "state": "NC", "userCommentCount": 207, "userLikes": 181, "userDislikes": 23, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35376, "content": "So to answer your question I demand money money to go in to these places. Or just avoid them all together.", "contentHtml": "So to answer your question I demand money money to go in to these places. Or just avoid them all together.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-09-23", "dateAdded": "2016-03-09T01:06:43Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 12197, "firstName": "DANIEL", "lastName": "CORBIN", "companyName": "LOST HIGHWAY TRUCKING LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "COLUMBIA", "state": "NC", "userCommentCount": 207, "userLikes": 181, "userDislikes": 23, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35378, "content": "We too have a few places around us that can have very long lines and it's just local trucks who don't run logs. Most the time we won't even consider snagging a quick load in there to make a little extra cause it always fails. It sucks to sit in a long line with a cheap load when you didn't even have to get it in the first place, especially when you are on the way to grab a bread and butter load.", "contentHtml": "We too have a few places around us that can have very long lines and it's just local trucks who don't run logs. Most the time we won't even consider snagging a quick load in there to make a little extra cause it always fails. It sucks to sit in a long line with a cheap load when you didn't even have to get it in the first place, especially when you are on the way to grab a bread and butter load.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2015-07-16", "dateAdded": "2016-03-09T03:10:24Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 63166, "firstName": "RANDY", "lastName": "FUJAN", "companyName": "TRIPLE F ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Fremont", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 14, "userLikes": 2, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 35390, "content": "Jordan, Nebraska just needs to do away with the county commercial, and that would help a bunch as alot of these guys around here are really abusing it! and i could name a few but you probably no who they are just like i do", "contentHtml": "Jordan, Nebraska just needs to do away with the county commercial, and that would help a bunch as alot of these guys around here are really abusing it! and i could name a few but you probably no who they are just like i do", "parentReplyId": 35378, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2014-12-01", "dateAdded": "2016-03-09T19:37:40Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 39500, "firstName": "GLENN", "lastName": "SELLHORST", "companyName": "MCWIESER TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Fremont", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 108, "userLikes": 3, "userDislikes": 7, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 0, "signUpDate": "2015-07-16", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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Switching to ELD's, looking for some input

Posted on Tue, Mar 8, 2016 at 8:46 AM CST in Fremont, NE

Switching to ELD's, looking for some input

We have decided to bite the bullet and switch our small fleet over to electronic logs. As you all know lines in the hopper business are inevitable, and it messes with a drivers drive time and the hours the truck can roll to make money. What are some things you have done to combat these downtime issues due to wait times? I.E. Detention pay, charge more for a load where you know there will be a long wait... My thoughts where to start enforcing a detention pay of $50-$75/hr after two hours. I know most of you are thinking good luck but if more carriers start enforcing this, it would just become the norm forcing the shipper and the reciever to speed up their process or paying a fine. Thanks in advance for the input!

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