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I thought I would ask all of us this question.\r\n\r\n\tHas your water and electric bill went down because of the market?\r\n\r\n\tEven if you used less water and electric your personal bill may go down but the rates would not?\r\n\r\n\tThe water company and electric company would actually raise their rates if the demand went down, they would have to make up the difference with the remaining customers. Much like you should to do with your trucks.", "thumbUrl": "", "dateAdded": "2016-05-07T19:39:46Z", "lastPost": "2016-05-10T01:54:01Z", "views": 2871, "likes": 2, "dislikes": 0, "messageCount": 11, "premiumOnly": 0, "isfeatured": 0, "showInDays": -100, "showDate": "", "forumLink": "", "youtubeVideoId": "", "approved": 1, "active": 1, "alias": "water-and-electri-bill", "forumUrl": "https://www.bulkloads.com/forum/water-and-electri-bill/", "userId": 11426, "firstName": "ALFRED", "lastName": "JORDAN", "companyName": "POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PECULIAR", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 1182, "userLikes": 206, "replies": [ { "replyId": 36363, "content": "But again we run trucks so we're just supposed to deal with it and make due or park it. According to an article I read earlier today the market supposedly went up for the first time in a year across the board. Funny thing is I havn't seen it.", "contentHtml": "But again we run trucks so we're just supposed to deal with it and make due or park it. According to an article I read earlier today the market supposedly went up for the first time in a year across the board. Funny thing is I havn't seen it.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2012-10-09", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T02:58:14Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 8801, "firstName": "JASON", "lastName": "BAIRD", "companyName": "LT&J TRUCKING ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Beatrice", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 61, "userLikes": 7, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36364, "content": "Jason you know how it is, we get the hit before the market tanks, and then we are the last to get the reward when it starts going up.\n", "contentHtml": "Jason you know how it is, we get the hit before the market tanks, and then we are the last to get the reward when it starts going up. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-06-26", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T03:00:05Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 11426, "firstName": "ALFRED", "lastName": "JORDAN", "companyName": "POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PECULIAR", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 1182, "userLikes": 206, "userDislikes": 6, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36365, "content": "Well, I have a different take on this market (trucking) and every other job market in this country. First, we have BECOME a country that isn't compassionate anymore. Things aren't viewed the same as they were when our grandfathers were living.. I'll explain this... I've been driving for 16 short years and when I started, this industry was one that sort of catered to the driver and the owner operator, meaning that we were sort of viewed as being an asset, or that we matteredin every aspect of our job. Now, and I'll say this over the course of the last 7 years or so, I've noticed that AFTER the influx of all these STEERING WHEEL HOLDERS (literally) we are viewed as any ole other job profession. Why pay premium rates when I can hire a NEWBY to do this old guys (experienced) job for half the rate. That is also in part to desensitizing everyone into thinking that TRUCK DRIVING is nothing special but the same as any other job in America... which we as experienced drivers know is different and pride ourselves in being ABOVE average HANDS. I'm not going to call any names but I find that when SWIFT and US EXPRESS (oops) started hiring any ole body to drive and catering to them by purchasing auto transmissioned trucks that the market for experience was no longer a sort after requirement. This, in just a short while has also caused a downshift in rates, because now we (as employer) have an abundance of drivers, so we don't have to pay the premium price for experience... this in trun has trickled down to the shippers and with the all AMERICAN greed on the uprise has shown them that they can get the freight moved for all time low rates. I remember when I bought my first truck that I felt $2.00 a mile was about the least I should desire to move freight.. NOW!!!! shippers and brokers think $2.00 a mile is PREMIUM!! Clearly our Water and Electric bills mean nothing.. It's a trickled down effect from the general concensus that we are just any ole body... Sad thing is.. I don't think it'll get any better... You see market/rate shifts at certain times of the year and that's about it... for example, the rates increase during harvest season... and then later they decrease.... this, to me is a slap in the face... If you can afford to pay us premium during harvest season because of truck shortages then why can't you do the same for the entire year!!! we've got families just like them... we want nice houses.. new vehicles... we want to be able to take vacations, and increase our well-being just like them... but the truth of the matter is ... WE'RE NOT IMPORTANT to them... POINT BLANK!!\n", "contentHtml": "Well, I have a different take on this market (trucking) and every other job market in this country. First, we have BECOME a country that isn't compassionate anymore. Things aren't viewed the same as they were when our grandfathers were living.. I'll explain this... I've been driving for 16 short years and when I started, this industry was one that sort of catered to the driver and the owner operator, meaning that we were sort of viewed as being an asset, or that we matteredin every aspect of our job. Now, and I'll say this over the course of the last 7 years or so, I've noticed that AFTER the influx of all these STEERING WHEEL HOLDERS (literally) we are viewed as any ole other job profession. Why pay premium rates when I can hire a NEWBY to do this old guys (experienced) job for half the rate. That is also in part to desensitizing everyone into thinking that TRUCK DRIVING is nothing special but the same as any other job in America... which we as experienced drivers know is different and pride ourselves in being ABOVE average HANDS. I'm not going to call any names but I find that when SWIFT and US EXPRESS (oops) started hiring any ole body to drive and catering to them by purchasing auto transmissioned trucks that the market for experience was no longer a sort after requirement. This, in just a short while has also caused a downshift in rates, because now we (as employer) have an abundance of drivers, so we don't have to pay the premium price for experience... this in trun has trickled down to the shippers and with the all AMERICAN greed on the uprise has shown them that they can get the freight moved for all time low rates. I remember when I bought my first truck that I felt $2.00 a mile was about the least I should desire to move freight.. NOW!!!! shippers and brokers think $2.00 a mile is PREMIUM!! Clearly our Water and Electric bills mean nothing.. It's a trickled down effect from the general concensus that we are just any ole body... Sad thing is.. I don't think it'll get any better... You see market/rate shifts at certain times of the year and that's about it... for example, the rates increase during harvest season... and then later they decrease.... this, to me is a slap in the face... If you can afford to pay us premium during harvest season because of truck shortages then why can't you do the same for the entire year!!! we've got families just like them... we want nice houses.. new vehicles... we want to be able to take vacations, and increase our well-being just like them... but the truth of the matter is ... WE'RE NOT IMPORTANT to them... POINT BLANK!! ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2014-08-25", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T03:40:33Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 15853, "firstName": "SHEDRICK", "lastName": "FIELDS", "companyName": "BAYOU STATE TRANSPORT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Baton Rouge", "state": "LA", "userCommentCount": 92, "userLikes": 17, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36366, "content": "Good statement. Before others start caring about us, we have to start caring about us. When people are trained to think $1.04 per mile is how you make money. Who is teaching them this? The megas lease programs.", "contentHtml": "Good statement. Before others start caring about us, we have to start caring about us. When people are trained to think $1.04 per mile is how you make money. Who is teaching them this? The megas lease programs.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-06-26", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T04:13:36Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 11426, "firstName": "ALFRED", "lastName": "JORDAN", "companyName": "POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PECULIAR", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 1182, "userLikes": 206, "userDislikes": 6, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36368, "content": "Exactly.... To some $1.40 a mile is good.... Especially when they have the thought process of I'M MAKING MORE THAN IF I WAS WORKING A 9-5 JOB. This issue is clearly WIDESPREAD. However, will it get any better for us? I SERIOUSLY doubt it... The industry is FLOODED with people that could care less. It's really sad... When you just make a TAD more than a person who's at home with his/her family EVERY night... Go to their kids practices... Has frequent family time and you and I are moving America, not home, see our family occasionally and we're viewed as being absolutely no different than a common worker. Yet we're faced with constantly changing rules, and more responsibility and yet when we ask to be treated fairly and paid accordingly for what we do we're FROWNED upon... GOD HELP US!!! because we NEED it!!!\n", "contentHtml": "Exactly.... To some $1.40 a mile is good.... Especially when they have the thought process of I'M MAKING MORE THAN IF I WAS WORKING A 9-5 JOB. This issue is clearly WIDESPREAD. However, will it get any better for us? I SERIOUSLY doubt it... The industry is FLOODED with people that could care less. It's really sad... When you just make a TAD more than a person who's at home with his/her family EVERY night... Go to their kids practices... Has frequent family time and you and I are moving America, not home, see our family occasionally and we're viewed as being absolutely no different than a common worker. Yet we're faced with constantly changing rules, and more responsibility and yet when we ask to be treated fairly and paid accordingly for what we do we're FROWNED upon... GOD HELP US!!! because we NEED it!!! ", "parentReplyId": 36366, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2014-08-25", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T11:30:14Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 15853, "firstName": "SHEDRICK", "lastName": "FIELDS", "companyName": "BAYOU STATE TRANSPORT", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Baton Rouge", "state": "LA", "userCommentCount": 92, "userLikes": 17, "userDislikes": 2, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36369, "content": "I just got done looking at a bill from Loves for a roadside tire call. They charged me $1.20/ mile to come out and swap a tire. Something is very wrong with things when a 3/4 ton service truck is making more money per mile than most brokers want to pay. \n \n You'll love this one Alfred. I picked up a magazine at a TA called Big Money Trucking. I figured I'd get a laugh out of it. First time I saw one of the recruiting mags that was full size. I opened it up and thumbed thru it, saw lots of ads paying percentage but no talk about expected pay/mile. I finally struck gold towards the end. Trans Am had an ad for lease purchase or maybe just a straight lease either way doesn't matter. So in Big Money Trucking I found my big money. I can go to work for them and make $0.87/mile plus surcharge and if I'm good I can get $0.01 safety bonus. I think I'm going to call them up and start making that BIG MONEY.", "contentHtml": "I just got done looking at a bill from Loves for a roadside tire call. They charged me $1.20/ mile to come out and swap a tire. Something is very wrong with things when a 3/4 ton service truck is making more money per mile than most brokers want to pay. \r\n \r\nYou'll love this one Alfred. I picked up a magazine at a TA called Big Money Trucking. I figured I'd get a laugh out of it. First time I saw one of the recruiting mags that was full size. I opened it up and thumbed thru it, saw lots of ads paying percentage but no talk about expected pay/mile. I finally struck gold towards the end. Trans Am had an ad for lease purchase or maybe just a straight lease either way doesn't matter. So in Big Money Trucking I found my big money. I can go to work for them and make $0.87/mile plus surcharge and if I'm good I can get $0.01 safety bonus. I think I'm going to call them up and start making that BIG MONEY. ", "parentReplyId": 36366, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2015-02-18", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T13:13:25Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 46643, "firstName": "SCOTT", "lastName": "BARRAZA", "companyName": "BARRAZA TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Corpus Christi", "state": "TX", "userCommentCount": 56, "userLikes": 3, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36372, "content": "Scott, my home owners just went up $900, for no reason except maybe my home is paid for, have never had a claim and got good credit. Ins. Co gave no reason", "contentHtml": "Scott, my home owners just went up $900, for no reason except maybe my home is paid for, have never had a claim and got good credit. Ins. Co gave no reason ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2014-06-12", "dateAdded": "2016-05-09T16:58:38Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 15182, "firstName": "JASON", "lastName": "WEAST", "companyName": "FAIR GROVE TRUCKING", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "Fair Grove", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 608, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 1, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36374, "content": "Hate too tell you but rates are never set by compassion. That is like saying a croc has a nice smile. Good luck waiting for commission to raise rates.", "contentHtml": "Hate too tell you but rates are never set by compassion. That is like saying a croc has a nice smile. Good luck waiting for commission to raise rates. ", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2010-09-23", "dateAdded": "2016-05-10T01:03:53Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 1, "approved": 1, "userId": 2656, "firstName": "PAT", "lastName": "FLYNN", "companyName": "FLYNN TRANSPORT LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "BLOOMER", "state": "WI", "userCommentCount": 12, "userLikes": 0, "userDislikes": 0, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36375, "content": "You know what they say, wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one piles up first.", "contentHtml": "You know what they say, wish in one hand and shit in the other, and see which one piles up first.", "parentReplyId": null, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-01-29", "dateAdded": "2016-05-10T01:36:01Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 9967, "firstName": "T", "lastName": "J", "companyName": "BONJO ENTERPRISES LLC", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "North Platte", "state": "NE", "userCommentCount": 261, "userLikes": 32, "userDislikes": 13, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 }, { "replyId": 36376, "content": "I decided to quit waiting and am getting. Beggers never will be choosers. I choose so therefor I do not beg. Instead of bitching, which most certainly does not good, I choose to do. Having pretty good luck landing accounts that nobody else seems to want to do. That is what you have to do be creative and look for the customers that nobody else even wants to deal with. They pay better and seem to appreciate you more. I don't like the idea of wishing in one hand and then shitting in the other, neither one of those will feed my family. The shippers, brokers, and the truckers all need to work together instead of against each other. I have taken my Freedom with Integrity message to my shipper customers and they are responding as well. They see what is going on in this country and around the world. When products are being brought in from cheaper customers and we choose to buy them then we are just as guilty of degrading our economy. We all know that made in the USA used to be the standard now made in China or India is. I remember when everybody used to rail on the Japanese but at least they made their own products and came up with their own ideas. Now we ship our resources abroad and then the cheaper nations make knock offs of our countries products and then turn around and sell them to us. I am watching the containers running up and down the highway, while our companies here are laying off people. The only ones that are winning are the Mega corporations, well if you can't beat them by being Independent then you must join together as Independents and become larger than the Mega themselves. This is the only way that we Independents stand a chance in this current rate battle. There are plenty of Independent business owners that want to work with us Independent Carriers they just want us to be a little more organized and offer them the consistency that they desire. They actually don't like working with the Mega Brokers and Mega Carriers, but we have left them no choice until now.\n", "contentHtml": "I decided to quit waiting and am getting. Beggers never will be choosers. I choose so therefor I do not beg. Instead of bitching, which most certainly does not good, I choose to do. Having pretty good luck landing accounts that nobody else seems to want to do. That is what you have to do be creative and look for the customers that nobody else even wants to deal with. They pay better and seem to appreciate you more. I don't like the idea of wishing in one hand and then shitting in the other, neither one of those will feed my family. The shippers, brokers, and the truckers all need to work together instead of against each other. I have taken my Freedom with Integrity message to my shipper customers and they are responding as well. They see what is going on in this country and around the world. When products are being brought in from cheaper customers and we choose to buy them then we are just as guilty of degrading our economy. We all know that made in the USA used to be the standard now made in China or India is. I remember when everybody used to rail on the Japanese but at least they made their own products and came up with their own ideas. Now we ship our resources abroad and then the cheaper nations make knock offs of our countries products and then turn around and sell them to us. I am watching the containers running up and down the highway, while our companies here are laying off people. The only ones that are winning are the Mega corporations, well if you can't beat them by being Independent then you must join together as Independents and become larger than the Mega themselves. This is the only way that we Independents stand a chance in this current rate battle. There are plenty of Independent business owners that want to work with us Independent Carriers they just want us to be a little more organized and offer them the consistency that they desire. They actually don't like working with the Mega Brokers and Mega Carriers, but we have left them no choice until now. ", "parentReplyId": 36374, "thumbUrl": "", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "signUpDate": "2013-06-26", "dateAdded": "2016-05-10T01:54:01Z", "likes": 0, "dislikes": 0, "approved": 1, "userId": 11426, "firstName": "ALFRED", "lastName": "JORDAN", "companyName": "POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC ", "email": "[email protected]", "city": "PECULIAR", "state": "MO", "userCommentCount": 1182, "userLikes": 206, "userDislikes": 6, "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0 } ], "userDislikes": 6, "signUpDate": "2013-06-26", "avatarThumbUrl": "https://s3.amazonaws.com/cdn.bulkloads.com/user_files/profile/thumbs/default.png", "links": [], "files": [], "iLike": 0, "iDislike": 0, "iSubscribe": 0 }

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Posted on Sat, May 7, 2016 at 3:39 PM CST in PECULIAR, MO