Demmurage

Nov 19, 2015 at 04:19 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. For a Hopper Truck waiting to unload at Pet Food Facility. What would be appropriate charge for wait time?

Replied on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 04:57 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. good luck we some times get 50 hour after giving up 4 hrs

Replied on Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 05:59 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I just got 1300 for 2 days

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:06 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I give 2 hours then make calls but IMO 65 mph $2 a mile I say $130 anhour should be going rate

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:58 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Anything less than what the truck can make going down the road is worthless. If them holding you up causes you to lose a load you already had booked or on a Friday causes you to have to sit somewhere you don't want to be for the weekend you need something more than the drivers wages they might want to pay for. Problem now is if you talk about detention time when you first take the load most brokers will say lets just see how it goes and worry about it if it happens. Thats how the screwing starts. We have no power at this point. Dump it in their parking lot and you buy the load. Hold it hostage and now you are a criminal. So you just sit there and accept what ever they feel gracious enough to give you. Rates suck. There are too many trucks and the brokers know that they don't need to worry about you because they will find 100 guys to take that load

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 08:58 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Anything less than what the truck can make going down the road is worthless. If them holding you up causes you to lose a load you already had booked or on a Friday causes you to have to sit somewhere you don't want to be for the weekend you need something more than the drivers wages they might want to pay for. Problem now is if you talk about detention time when you first take the load most brokers will say lets just see how it goes and worry about it if it happens. Thats how the screwing starts. We have no power at this point. Dump it in their parking lot and you buy the load. Hold it hostage and now you are a criminal. So you just sit there and accept what ever they feel gracious enough to give you. Rates suck. There are too many trucks and the brokers know that they don't need to worry about you because they will find 100 guys to take that load

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 12:19 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We give the first hour free then we charge one dollar per minute, but good luck getting it we try not to haul to pet food places, cause they treat you like scum

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 04:18 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Philip, I have heard both sides of this argument. I agree there should be detention paid to the truck, I usually say after 2hrs detention time should start, I use 2hrs because often times in the hopper business it can take that long to unload some items. Now, that being said I also see the facilities side of this, they like to say well if we're late unloading you and have to pay you, are you willing to pay us if you get here late? So although I agree with the detention idea whole heartedly I can also understand their side of the argument. Please dont take this as me saying you dont deserve money for hours WASTED waiting in line, I actually feel quite the opposite but also understand there is another side to this argument. This was just my $.015 worth on the subject.

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 04:18 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Philip, I have heard both sides of this argument. I agree there should be detention paid to the truck, I usually say after 2hrs detention time should start, I use 2hrs because often times in the hopper business it can take that long to unload some items. Now, that being said I also see the facilities side of this, they like to say well if we're late unloading you and have to pay you, are you willing to pay us if you get here late? So although I agree with the detention idea whole heartedly I can also understand their side of the argument. Please dont take this as me saying you dont deserve money for hours WASTED waiting in line, I actually feel quite the opposite but also understand there is another side to this argument. This was just my $.015 worth on the subject.

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 05:09 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've had that argument with a company i used to lease to. I understand the the whole you don't charge us and we won't charge you for the crane thats here to unload you. There are alot more complications that come on our side. Weather, shippers, traffic, breakdowns, dot, and the dreaded HOS to deal with. I'm more than willing to work with someone if they break down or some other act completely out of their control slows them down but i have very little sympathy for the places that know they are ordering enough trucks to cause a problem at one end or the other, or the ones that just don't give a crap. Appointment times would help everybody and if the driver is going to be late and doesn't have the courtesy to call and explain then they should get charged just the same as the shipper or reciever should if they can't do their thing when you arrive on time. Pet food places seem the worst and I'm about to write them off the list. Can't haul cheap the cheap crap thats out there now and then have everybody expect you to sit around all day

Replied on Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 05:09 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I've had that argument with a company i used to lease to. I understand the the whole you don't charge us and we won't charge you for the crane thats here to unload you. There are alot more complications that come on our side. Weather, shippers, traffic, breakdowns, dot, and the dreaded HOS to deal with. I'm more than willing to work with someone if they break down or some other act completely out of their control slows them down but i have very little sympathy for the places that know they are ordering enough trucks to cause a problem at one end or the other, or the ones that just don't give a crap. Appointment times would help everybody and if the driver is going to be late and doesn't have the courtesy to call and explain then they should get charged just the same as the shipper or reciever should if they can't do their thing when you arrive on time. Pet food places seem the worst and I'm about to write them off the list. Can't haul cheap the cheap crap thats out there now and then have everybody expect you to sit around all day

Replied on Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 10:17 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I charge $65 per hour after 2 hours free time and also charge customers who stack trucks caused by their FCFS scheduling. OTOH I have paid overtime to customers when our truck arrives late. Seldom but it does happen.

Replied on Sat, Nov 21, 2015 at 06:36 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. The first two hours are free after that it is 50 dollars an hour is generally the standard.

Replied on Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 09:28 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "The first two hours are free after that it is 50 dollars an hour is generally the standard." Is that at loading or unloading facility where the detention is being paid?

Replied on Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 06:32 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Is that at loading or unloading facility where the detention is being paid?" Both.

Replied on Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 08:07 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We get a $1 per minute after 2 hours