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Apr 29, 2021 at 10:18 PM CST
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Hey just looking for a lease purchase program with no gimmicks for a peterbilt do not come at me with anything else I'm old school been driving for 6 years really want to get into my own ride I'm currently pulling hopper and enjoy it but I've done just about everything so if anyone has a decent program hit me up

Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 01:05 PM CST
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So you've ONLY been doing this 6 years, you don't have enough money and credit to just go buy a truck yourself, but you're "old school?"...oook...🙄
Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 01:05 PM CST
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Your not quite old school yet buddy

Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 02:35 PM CST
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Quote: "So you've ONLY been doing this 6 years, you don't have enough money and credit to just go buy a truck yourself, but you're "old school?"...oook...🙄"

So you've got nothing better to do than talk crap oookk

Replied on Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 02:35 PM CST
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Quote: "Your not quite old school yet buddy"

Yea I'm old school when it comes to trucks if you actually look around most companies are automatics now I do not I prefer an older 379 so that's what I'm talking about so maybe don't insert your opinion where it isn't wanted unless you have what I asked for

Replied on Sat, May 01, 2021 at 05:50 PM CST
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It's not about looking cool ....its what your profit per mile is. Have you kept track of all your expenses with the truck you are driving and how much per mile you need to feed the animal called your HOME. And ask your self if you would take the leap in buying a truck...not a lease purchase if the market was cold for Trucking???
Replied on Sun, May 02, 2021 at 08:24 PM CST
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Quote: "So you've ONLY been doing this 6 years, you don't have enough money and credit to just go buy a truck yourself, but you're "old school?"...oook...🙄"

Exactly...Well said from a real old schooler...Please do yourself a favor and don't do a lease purchase. That's one of the worst deals to ever show up in the trucking industry. Nothing less profitable than paying twice as much for equipment than you need too. But hey, you do you brother. Good luck to you.

Replied on Sun, May 02, 2021 at 08:24 PM CST
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Quote: "Your not quite old school yet buddy"

Mike, I almost spit out my coffe with that one. 😂

Replied on Sun, May 02, 2021 at 08:24 PM CST
Quote: "It's not about looking cool ....its what your profit per mile is. Have you kept track of all your expenses with the truck you are driving and how much per mile you need to feed the animal called your HOME. And ask your self if you would take the leap in buying a truck...not a lease purchase if the market was cold for Trucking???"

Yes I have considered it and I have done my homework and lasttime I checked the market for trucking is far from cold buying outright if the market drops your stuck with a trucknote you can't get away from lease purchase your working off a truck and if it doesn't work out you can walk away from it with no consequences your not stuck you just hafto stay with that company as long as you owe on the truck I've grown up with trucks I watched my dad fail because of pure ignorance and no a little thing called divorce ruined my credit and left me with nothing so my ambition is to own more than one truck and as soon as possible I've been around the industry most of my life the difference between success and failure in the trucking business is planning no excessive deadheading ever and keep that driver door shut

Replied on Mon, May 03, 2021 at 05:46 AM CST
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Quote: "Yes I have considered it and I have done my homework and lasttime I checked the market for trucking is far from cold buying outright if the market drops your stuck with a trucknote you can't get away from lease purchase your working off a truck and if it doesn't work out you can walk away from it with no consequences your not stuck you just hafto stay with that company as long as you owe on the truck I've grown up with trucks I watched my dad fail because of pure ignorance and no a little thing called divorce ruined my credit and left me with nothing so my ambition is to own more than one truck and as soon as possible I've been around the industry most of my life the difference between success and failure in the trucking business is planning no excessive deadheading ever and keep that driver door shut "

Lease purchase , a tool designed when the economy fell. It was made to trap people. You lease on and they give a truck and then starve you out. After you loses everything but keep on trying to make it with the little miles they give you, you get their truck about paid off and then they cut you back till you can't survive. Then they do it again to the next guy. It's like the quicky car lot. Nothing but a scam. Very few people make it as far as I have heard. Better off buying a tractor and leasing it on to a company. But some people have made it with lease purchase. Well I assume you were speaking of a lease purchase with s trucking company and not a lease from dealership.
Replied on Mon, May 03, 2021 at 07:43 AM CST
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Quote: "Yes I have considered it and I have done my homework and lasttime I checked the market for trucking is far from cold buying outright if the market drops your stuck with a trucknote you can't get away from lease purchase your working off a truck and if it doesn't work out you can walk away from it with no consequences your not stuck you just hafto stay with that company as long as you owe on the truck I've grown up with trucks I watched my dad fail because of pure ignorance and no a little thing called divorce ruined my credit and left me with nothing so my ambition is to own more than one truck and as soon as possible I've been around the industry most of my life the difference between success and failure in the trucking business is planning no excessive deadheading ever and keep that driver door shut "

NO! NO! OH NO!

Replied on Mon, May 03, 2021 at 07:55 AM CST
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LEASE PURCHASE IS MODERN DAY SLAVERY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO $35,000.00 AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHERE YOU CAN JUST CALL YOUR BANK AND HAVE IT ADVANCED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT I WOULD NOT TRY TO OPERATE A TRUCK OF MY OWN. YOU MIGHT JUST FIND YOURSELF A LOT MORE POOR THAN YOU ALREADY ARE.

Replied on Mon, May 03, 2021 at 10:15 AM CST
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Yes lease purchase through a trucking company not a dealer

Replied on Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:50 PM CST
Quote: "LEASE PURCHASE IS MODERN DAY SLAVERY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO $35,000.00 AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHERE YOU CAN JUST CALL YOUR BANK AND HAVE IT ADVANCED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT I WOULD NOT TRY TO OPERATE A TRUCK OF MY OWN. YOU MIGHT JUST FIND YOURSELF A LOT MORE POOR THAN YOU ALREADY ARE. "

having that problem now.NEVER EVER do business with Arrow Truck Sales.Liars.Scammers. All AGM batteries dead. Grease zert missing and threads stripped out from tie rod end. Leakin air bag sealed with all the black paint and clear coat. Who knows what else since I am still sitting two weeks latercuzcan not get base plates. Kansas always has some excuse. Wrong address , cant use PObox.Articles of incorporation has wrong address for mailing. Cantprove you have trucking company at home cuz no bills sent to company you have never operated yet. Letters from Sec of state are not certified ...... Meanwhile truck/insurance/ trailer/ insurance/ parts / rent/utilities.... keep on coming in every week.

No telling what will happen when truck hits the road.

Be ready.

Replied on Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:50 PM CST
Quote: "Yes I have considered it and I have done my homework and lasttime I checked the market for trucking is far from cold buying outright if the market drops your stuck with a trucknote you can't get away from lease purchase your working off a truck and if it doesn't work out you can walk away from it with no consequences your not stuck you just hafto stay with that company as long as you owe on the truck I've grown up with trucks I watched my dad fail because of pure ignorance and no a little thing called divorce ruined my credit and left me with nothing so my ambition is to own more than one truck and as soon as possible I've been around the industry most of my life the difference between success and failure in the trucking business is planning no excessive deadheading ever and keep that driver door shut "

Just one thought on that.

If you lease from a dealer, it is not really all that hard. I can tell you that I can walk into local freightliner and drive off in a new truck with no job to go to and only reasonable credit and unemployed. 5k down. 55k a year. trade in every two years or buy out. Great tax savings on the leasing. This is far better than leaseto purchase with truck company. You can always lease onto any company you want after you have a truck. you will make money. Plus i think you would avoid the major BS I am going through by buying my truck. No tags , can not work. Going broke sitting here while state refuses to tag my truck.

Add it up. If you can not make at least 6k a week you are wasting your time.

Word : Never buy that truck under company name unless you have absolute proof that your company is at the address you say it is. Here it is 3 forms that show company name and address including the mailing address being the same. Weeks of hassle.

Replied on Tue, May 04, 2021 at 09:50 PM CST
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Quote: "Yes lease purchase through a trucking company not a dealer "

Good luck with that. If you search all the trucking forums on this matter you will find a thousand horror stories over this scam. And yes, it is a scam. Itwas invented during the big recession to pay for trucks the big guys bought.

Keep in mind that most will require you to be a trainee. Low pay that dwindles to none. I have read a few posts of successful drivers but not many. Just search the forums and pick the best one you find. They may have been getting better since the last economic crash that spawned this lease stuff. Perhaps it can work now. Truckers report is a good place to learn about this matter

Replied on Fri, May 07, 2021 at 07:54 AM CST
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Since the original request was inquiring about a lease purchase, I came across this while looking around on truck paper this evening....I still think it is a terrible idea...Also a YouTube video titled "Exposing Truck Financing Ripoffs and Scams....

Replied on Fri, May 07, 2021 at 01:38 PM CST
Long term maintenance included affordable truck rentals can be obtained from all the truck manufacturers. I did this through Ideal lease until the ELD mandate went into effect. My monthly truck costs which included heavy use tax, ifta, tire wear, oil changes, etc. Ranged from 3300 to 4000 dollars per month, and I I never ran a truck more than 3 years old. This is a great way to break into the owner op game.
Replied on Sat, May 08, 2021 at 11:47 AM CST
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money is made in the buyin, not the sellin. It's not what you make but what you retake. Most money I made was on a 3rd hand Freightliner Century class. UGLY truck, but the freight didn't care.

BTW-I received authority from the DOT in 1996. I'm not even close to old school, I know companies in the area with 5 digit DOT #'s. Best driver we have is 73 yo kid! Old school, blah blah blah

Replied on Sat, May 08, 2021 at 11:47 AM CST
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Quote: "money is made in the buyin, not the sellin. It's not what you make but what you retake. Most money I made was on a 3rd hand Freightliner Century class. UGLY truck, but the freight didn't care. BTW-I received authority from the DOT in 1996. I'm not even close to old school, I know companies in the area with 5 digit DOT #'s. Best driver we have is 73 yo kid! Old school, blah blah blah"

After thinking about my response, I may have came across as mean. Not my intent, and we need young people interested in this business, and any business for that fact. So hats off to Shad. Keep swinging, you're young and there's plenty of time for you to win, fail, start over, and over, and over... Don't let the true old school boys wear to hard on you, you may learn something, it's just life and human nature.

Replied on Sat, May 08, 2021 at 03:40 PM CST
Quote: "After thinking about my response, I may have came across as mean. Not my intent, and we need young people interested in this business, and any business for that fact. So hats off to Shad. Keep swinging, you're young and there's plenty of time for you to win, fail, start over, and over, and over... Don't let the true old school boys wear to hard on you, you may learn something, it's just life and human nature."

Lol I may be young to most drivers on this forum and 37 is young for most but for the haters commenting I've grown up on a farm been around trucking and heavy equipment since my whole life been a fireman a police officer served in the military yes I'm young in age but I am not young anymore I've watched my dad fail at trucking because he thought like most drivers on this forum scared to take a chance or do the proper research he failed and had to sale his business I've been around long enough to know when a company is j****** me off and lease purchase that I'm looking into has an escape clause you for any reason don't feel like it's working for you you walk away from the lease with no penalty you can't make money you walk away I know what it takes to make it work I know how much money I gotta make each week and how many miles or loads I hafto make to make this work so for all the naysayers I know what I'm doing I'm not a new driver or a retiring driver do not think I'm an idiot

Replied on Wed, May 26, 2021 at 04:10 PM CST
Quote: "Yes I have considered it and I have done my homework and lasttime I checked the market for trucking is far from cold buying outright if the market drops your stuck with a trucknote you can't get away from lease purchase your working off a truck and if it doesn't work out you can walk away from it with no consequences your not stuck you just hafto stay with that company as long as you owe on the truck I've grown up with trucks I watched my dad fail because of pure ignorance and no a little thing called divorce ruined my credit and left me with nothing so my ambition is to own more than one truck and as soon as possible I've been around the industry most of my life the difference between success and failure in the trucking business is planning no excessive deadheading ever and keep that driver door shut "

Walk away with no problems? Good Luck old timer of 6 long years. You will fail horribly. You will fail. Let us all know how flippin burgers is working out for ya. Way better than a lease purchase.

Replied on Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:27 AM CST
Quote: "It's not about looking cool ....its what your profit per mile is. Have you kept track of all your expenses with the truck you are driving and how much per mile you need to feed the animal called your HOME. And ask your self if you would take the leap in buying a truck...not a lease purchase if the market was cold for Trucking???"

GRANGEVILLE
Replied on Thu, May 27, 2021 at 08:28 AM CST
Shadrick, I agree with the people that are against a lease purchase. I don't think it benefits you. Just my opinion. Nickels post to you reminds me of my favorite quote..."success is the best revenge". I wonder what the country would look like today if the "greatest generation" treated the "baby boomers" like crap when they were newbies, the same way people have treated someone your age. I think a few of the experienced people out there like to stand on the backs of titans, and bragg that they got there by themselves. Hard work and good decision making is critical, but learning from good people is even more important, in my opinion. Good luck.
Replied on Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:45 PM CST
DO NOT DO LEASE PURCHASE, 75% of the time it’ll ruin you, save your money, buy a 15-20k truck, put some money into it and make money with it while the rates are so high, then in a year, if you’re a good none manager, buy the nice truck you want
Replied on Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:45 PM CST
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Quote: "Shadrick, I agree with the people that are against a lease purchase. I don't think it benefits you. Just my opinion. Nickels post to you reminds me of my favorite quote..."success is the best revenge". I wonder what the country would look like today if the "greatest generation" treated the "baby boomers" like crap when they were newbies, the same way people have treated someone your age. I think a few of the experienced people out there like to stand on the backs of titans, and bragg that they got there by themselves. Hard work and good decision making is critical, but learning from good people is even more important, in my opinion. Good luck."

Hey harms. Ummm have you ever heard of being tuff with the truth? Do you even understand that almost every lease purchase fails? Do you listen to people that work for a month and make like 2.oo profit after working the whole month? What about a walk away lease? can you explain how that works out for the potential buyer? Please inform me, how this walk away would do to a persons credit. Thats probably why he wants a l/p to begin with. But give me a lesson on this subject. And I don't need to belittle people in a forum to make a point. I am merely telling this guy that he better do some research. Too many guys like you are trying not to give good solid advice. I have no reason to be blowin smoke, to anyone. I just speak the truth, Some cannot or will not like it.

There is a difference of being a risk taker and an idiot. How many people read the contract completly through to the end before signing? And, who makes up the contracts? The attorneys that work for the trucking company. Who can pay an attorney to advise the buyer? If ya hafta lease purchase Most drivers to be, cannot afford it, let alone know what they are signing.

Replied on Fri, May 28, 2021 at 09:37 PM CST
Dave, my first sentence in my post said and I quote " I agree with the people that are AGAINST a lease". Meaning I agree with you that it's a bad idea. You just wrote me a paragraph saying all the things I agree with. I gave no indication that I think a lease purchase is the way to go. Where I disagree with you, (totally my opinion) , is that experienced people like YOU, that do a good job, have a good reputation, are failing the industry by not TEACHING the next in line. It's not up to you to decide who fails, the market will decide if they succeed or not. I don't think giving someone a chance is blowing smoke. If you teach somebody and they don't listen to good advice, thats their fault. So I agree with you, a lease purchase will likely fail, but that doesn't mean his trucking career will fail and he'll be flipping burgers. And even if he is, with nobody willing to work, he could probably make 20 plus an hour flipping burgers anyway. Dave, I'd bet in person we could have a beer and have a great conversation about this. My frustration is just with a big group of people that think the new ones coming in aren't worth the effort. Well, people like you are good at this, so teach em
Replied on Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:50 PM CST
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Yup, lease purchase is win, win for companies only. Now, take it from a real "old school" trucker, who started in '63 and who has driven every transmission out there, and now owns a small company, stay a company driver, or put as much money as you can towards buying a refer, or dry box, and haul for better rates with your own tractor.

Looking cool won't put more money into your account. I know!

Replied on Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:50 PM CST

I actually kinda figured I mis read what you meant. I'm pretty blunt, and I spose i could use a diffeent way to get through. I listen to guys who have done the L/P,and it is devistating to listen to 99% of the stories. Just do not want a guy to go down that road. Again, sorry I took your post the wrong way.

Replied on Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:51 PM CST
Quote: "Walk away with no problems? Good Luck old timer of 6 long years. You will fail horribly. You will fail. Let us all know how flippin burgers is working out for ya. Way better than a lease purchase. "

It'll be a cold day in hell before I flip burgers and I expected a better more respectful response than that but thanks for the input

Replied on Sat, May 29, 2021 at 03:51 PM CST
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Thanks for all the input some drivers you forgot what trucking is about and it shows in your responses I appreciate the ones that are giving helpful advice making sure another driver doesn't fail or make a mistake they already know about thank you but the rest of you go flip burgers you'd do better with that lol

Replied on Tue, Jun 01, 2021 at 04:59 PM CST

Slow down their tiger. This isn't a get rich quick life. Buy what you can afford (freightliner international or whatever). If your looking into having an escape if things go south your unsure of multiple things going on, and that's a tell tale sign your not ready. Buy a peterbilt when you can afford it. Nothing wrong with starting out small or with something that's not your first choice but if you think theirs a possibility of failure don't be picky about what you'll drive...

Replied on Mon, Jun 07, 2021 at 11:37 AM CST
Quote: "Thanks for all the input some drivers you forgot what trucking is about and it shows in your responses I appreciate the ones that are giving helpful advice making sure another driver doesn't fail or make a mistake they already know about thank you but the rest of you go flip burgers you'd do better with that lol "

You've been doing this for 6 years, and you are telling me that my advice is basicaly not helpful? Ok. think what you want, but, for instance. you said you can get a walk away L/P, if I remember correctly. What do you think that will do to your credit rating? Not to mention, possibly a report of "abandoning a truck" that will follow you for a long time. I say it like it is. If you think I am too harsh, then I made you notice. Do some research on contracts. Hire an attorney to read your great L/P agreement. I bet he will inform you way more than I can, But truth be known, you won't or can't spend the money for the atty., to do that. That is a complete red flag to me. Those long 6 years of being out here has taought you no respect for good advice. I really meant what I said that you would make more money working in a burger joint. I know of O/O that have like $10.00 left over after ALL their payments in a week or two week period. I am giving you sound advice but if you want to make fun of it, knock yourself out. Good Luck. I hope you can show me how wrong I am in the next 6 years of the L/P.

Replied on Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 12:41 PM CST
He is right you have no respect. I don't care how long you been around trucking but you only driven 6 and your old school my ass
Replied on Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 12:42 PM CST
Quote: "You've been doing this for 6 years, and you are telling me that my advice is basicaly not helpful? Ok. think what you want, but, for instance. you said you can get a walk away L/P, if I remember correctly. What do you think that will do to your credit rating? Not to mention, possibly a report of "abandoning a truck" that will follow you for a long time. I say it like it is. If you think I am too harsh, then I made you notice. Do some research on contracts. Hire an attorney to read your great L/P agreement. I bet he will inform you way more than I can, But truth be known, you won't or can't spend the money for the atty., to do that. That is a complete red flag to me. Those long 6 years of being out here has taought you no respect for good advice. I really meant what I said that you would make more money working in a burger joint. I know of O/O that have like $10.00 left over after ALL their payments in a week or two week period. I am giving you sound advice but if you want to make fun of it, knock yourself out. Good Luck. I hope you can show me how wrong I am in the next 6 years of the L/P. "

Shadrick, you might try this....Auction time, purplewave and bigiron sell hundreds of trucks every week..You might find one near you...BUT! for sure go look at the truck before you bid....And just saying that good old trucks even 25 years old are high dollar with these freight rates hitting $4/ mile on the coasts... ike I said before----nothing easy but, it can be done...

Replied on Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 03:18 PM CST

You could do what I did. Now normally I would never ever recommend these guys but you can get funded easily.

Arrow truck sales.

Dishonest as the day is long. Stay the hell away from corporate office, KC mo.

Lots of complaints on basically some issues , so you can avoid problems by knowing it.

Check truck before you ever give them a deposit !

It will not likely pass for inspection. They have a habit of trying to sell you a truck that is not actually the one you saw online.

Make sure no check engine light on. That thing is actually a emmision malfunction light unless it shows a wrench in it.

Check all batteries.

Crawl under and make sure nothing wrong with suspension. Etc....

Do not trust one single word they say.

Check APU. They do not cover it.

Don't sign a thing until everything on truck is in working order no matter what it is.

You will end up with a good truck.

Refuse to pay 20% down. Act like you are in no hurry to get a truck and will just go to other dealer. They will drop that rate down some.

If they think you can not get funding elsewhere they will stick you to 20%.

I'm happy with my Pete. But I did have to spend a few thousand bucks. Actually 1400 on dpf sensor. 900 on fuel pressure switch. 2 air bags. A stripped out grease zerk on tie rod end. 1200 for 4 APU batteries that were junk. [ A common complaint ]

Replied on Thu, Jul 01, 2021 at 03:18 PM CST
Quote: "LEASE PURCHASE IS MODERN DAY SLAVERY. IF YOU DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO $35,000.00 AT ANY GIVEN TIME WHERE YOU CAN JUST CALL YOUR BANK AND HAVE IT ADVANCED INTO YOUR ACCOUNT I WOULD NOT TRY TO OPERATE A TRUCK OF MY OWN. YOU MIGHT JUST FIND YOURSELF A LOT MORE POOR THAN YOU ALREADY ARE. "

I burned through 30 k in three months . 4 k left.

Replied on Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:01 PM CST
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Quote: "Thanks for all the input some drivers you forgot what trucking is about and it shows in your responses I appreciate the ones that are giving helpful advice making sure another driver doesn't fail or make a mistake they already know about thank you but the rest of you go flip burgers you'd do better with that lol "

We put a driver on who had not one but two lease purchase trucks from a company. He was almost broke when he walked in the door with his hat in his hand, broke down, dejected and almost bankrupt! The company had set him up for failure with a truck that could not pass a shop! After sticking countless dollars into the truck, he finally had to decide if he wanted to get into a different truck for the same company or just go bankrupt. He was sent here by a mutual friend and after a few hours of talking, a bail out from our company and getting him on the road with good freight he dug himself out of the hole. Now back to truck number 1. The company he had the lease purchase through ended up reselling the truck after they repossed the truck through a loop hole in the contract. Not only was the owner stuck with a truck (number 2) that he was charged twice as much as the truck was worth, he was now out all equity in truck number 1.

Moral of the story, try to do it yourself! start small and work your way up. Cut your teeth in something you can afford and that will not adversely affect your life if things do not work out. Last but not least, find a good, honest company to work with! If you have to factor, you are with the wrong company! Factoring takes YOUR profit and now makes it someone else's profit!

As far as your walk away with nor recourse statement, I suggest you go try that with a much less expensive automobile and see how that works out before you do a lease purchase on a 200k truck or however much you want to spend!

Good luck

Keith

ET Trucking

Replied on Sat, Jul 17, 2021 at 05:01 PM CST
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Quote: "Yup, lease purchase is win, win for companies only. Now, take it from a real "old school" trucker, who started in '63 and who has driven every transmission out there, and now owns a small company, stay a company driver, or put as much money as you can towards buying a refer, or dry box, and haul for better rates with your own tractor. Looking cool won't put more money into your account. I know!"

Jerry that is a good looking cab over! That is what I started driving too! Mine was a 79 freightliner. My first truck I owned was an 84 Freightliner Cab over. It was an old Thompson brothers truck (TBI). Good times!

Replied on Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 07:50 AM CST
Quote: "I burned through 30 k in three months . 4 k left."

🤔...Will you be posting your truck and trailer for sale in the classified section of this site when you run out of 💰? Asking for a friend...🤷‍♂️
Replied on Sat, Jul 24, 2021 at 07:09 PM CST

Why do you want a lease purchase? For me I don't see the advantage. You either are making a payment to a bank, our to the company providing your freight. Who do you think will be more willing to help and get you back to running when your truck breaks? The bank. Bank doesn't want to repo your truck, the company however probably won't care because they can just pass that truck to the next person in line. If you get a loan through a bank, they are more willing in most cases to help you when things go south, and it's trucking so it's not an if it's when they will go south. Yes the market is very good right now for trucks, what's your plan when the market does cool down? Will you still be able to afford the truck and expenses when that happens? If you've done your homework, you should know what your freight pays, what your insurance is going to cost, what your initial startup costs will be. Factor all that in with the wage you need/want and find what fits in that range for price of a truck. Pretty trucks look nice and are fun to drive, but they make the same money an ugly one will. I just bought my first truck at the end of August last year. It won't win any show awards, but it gets the job done for what i need right now.

Replied on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 07:31 AM CST
Here’s one
Replied on Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 01:54 PM CST
Quote: "Here’s one"

Nice truck!

Replied on Fri, Sep 03, 2021 at 06:55 AM CST
If u think u can walk away from a lease purchase, think again. Not all are walk away & there’s a hook in the very fine print that will keep u tied to that truck. As far as Old School, lol u have tons to learn. I’m 49 now, been out here since I turned 20, I’m far from old school & u only been driving 6 years? Go to work for a farmer ur better off
Replied on Mon, Sep 27, 2021 at 05:46 AM CST
Exactly like that one guy said buy older truck for 15 to 20 grand and run it for a year was best advice a old school guy gave me got 20 grand truck fixd up and still running and building a 87 w900
Replied on Sun, Oct 17, 2021 at 08:30 AM CST

I love all these drivers comments acting like I've just came out of driving school I appreciate the comments that are honest and trying to help the others go back under your rock now to answer some questions there is programs at a couple different companies that have no risk walk away lease purchase however what you do hafto watch is if the lease pays toward the purchase price of the truck or if it's just a lease with the option to buy later that's how you guys are getting screwed your not asking questions or reading the fine print tradition thought they were slick and keep saying lease purchase it is not a lease purchase with them it is a lease with the option to purchase later and anything you pay on the lease is a loss to you not a smart option hurricane express however has a legitimate lease purchase meaning the money you spend goes to paying off the truck but you hafto have 5 years OTR to qualify so yes there's bad companies out there that are out to get the drivers that don't pay attention and don't research and believe me checking a truck for malfunctions is the first thing an experienced driver does I said I have 6 years driving experience that just my constant driving I have held a cdl since 2007 and grew up on a farm I'm not an idiot and it gonna take these companies waking up a lot earlier in the morning to get one over on me I do appreciate the concern and to a bunch of you learn some respect I don't care if you've been behind the wheel 50 years or 5 minutes there's no call for some of these comments and I agree if I could get my own cheap truck it would be best if I stayed local but regional or otr not the best for starting out

Replied on Mon, Oct 18, 2021 at 11:08 AM CST
Quote: "Shadrick, I agree with the people that are against a lease purchase. I don't think it benefits you. Just my opinion. Nickels post to you reminds me of my favorite quote..."success is the best revenge". I wonder what the country would look like today if the "greatest generation" treated the "baby boomers" like crap when they were newbies, the same way people have treated someone your age. I think a few of the experienced people out there like to stand on the backs of titans, and bragg that they got there by themselves. Hard work and good decision making is critical, but learning from good people is even more important, in my opinion. Good luck."

True what you say, boomer here started driving in 70 to a trucking company that hauld heavy loads, there was an old war veteran there took me under his wings and helped and taught me so much when he retired he sold me his old F model Mack for a song and got me started. It's our job to encourage the new guys, hang in there you'll make it eventually if your willing to learn.

Replied on Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 11:48 AM CST
Alright, let’s get into this. This nonsense about lease purchases don’t work it depends on upon your strategy is your strategy using the lease truck as a stepping stone to higher income, to be able to open your own authority or is it actually truck ownership ? I did 2 lease trucks from a mega carrier an made a ton of money, not granted this is anecdotal. However that money, I made enabled me to open my own authority with 5 trucks. I started December of 2020, it’s October 2021. We have 5 trucks, 3 reefers. An a dedicated contract with Publix. It’s doable don’t listen to anyone that tells you, can’t do it. I’m 27, it’s doable go out there kick a$$ an do it good luck an stay safe .
Replied on Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:23 PM CST
Quote: "Alright, let’s get into this. This nonsense about lease purchases don’t work it depends on upon your strategy is your strategy using the lease truck as a stepping stone to higher income, to be able to open your own authority or is it actually truck ownership ? I did 2 lease trucks from a mega carrier an made a ton of money, not granted this is anecdotal. However that money, I made enabled me to open my own authority with 5 trucks. I started December of 2020, it’s October 2021. We have 5 trucks, 3 reefers. An a dedicated contract with Publix. It’s doable don’t listen to anyone that tells you, can’t do it. I’m 27, it’s doable go out there kick a$$ an do it good luck an stay safe ."

Thank you finally someone that has actually done it LOL I know it's doable and I was looking to lease purchase a truck to own it from the company itself and a few companies look appealing and could work however a lease to build up and buy exactly what I want is also an option biggest thing is to get into business for myself and grow to financial freedom and stability to many of these companies will starve you to death working for them as a company driver not to mention I've been driving long enough and been around the business long enough staying a company driver just feels like a dead end and just plain lazy it's time to up the ante and thank you very much for the support 27 with your own company that's impressive keep it up

Replied on Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 08:26 AM CST
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Quote: "Thank you finally someone that has actually done it LOL I know it's doable and I was looking to lease purchase a truck to own it from the company itself and a few companies look appealing and could work however a lease to build up and buy exactly what I want is also an option biggest thing is to get into business for myself and grow to financial freedom and stability to many of these companies will starve you to death working for them as a company driver not to mention I've been driving long enough and been around the business long enough staying a company driver just feels like a dead end and just plain lazy it's time to up the ante and thank you very much for the support 27 with your own company that's impressive keep it up "

Why would he quit doing it if he was making "a ton of money"?
Replied on Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:03 PM CST
Quote: "Why would he quit doing it if he was making "a ton of money"?"

Did you not see where he managed to get his own trucks and set up his own company LOL

Replied on Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 09:03 PM CST

I'd like to hear from him in 3 or 5 years and see how it's going. Also, in dollars, how much is "a ton of money"?

Replied on Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 10:04 AM CST
Quote: "Did you not see where he managed to get his own trucks and set up his own company LOL "

Yes that's exactly what I'm addressing. Why would someone who made a ton of money by leasing trucks from a mega carrier, quit leasing and purchase instead??? I own my truck and I'm satisfied with my income but it is NOT a ton of money. Why would someone who own 5 trucks but 3 trailers (refers) be telling someone on a bulk freight forum to dive into a lease purchase? The last time I heard someone bragging like that on the forum...his exact words were, he'll be retired in 6 years and buying truck after truck....I asked him if he was full of shit, and his lanfld lord emailed me and indicated he was definitely full of shit! Do whatever works for you and do it with passion, but in my opinion the guys telling you not to lease are correct. Good luck. Class pays!!
Replied on Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 10:04 AM CST
A (ton of money is anywhere between 4-6k profit) off 2 trucks that the mega carrier was running. My profit was about .45 cents per mile profit per tractor after all expenses anywhere between 10-15k miles a week . I left that company an turned trucks back in because, of there hiring practices and how they screened drivers you brought on ounce they were in the truck even after I spent a lot of money getting them on boarded an too the trucks .
Replied on Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 06:55 PM CST
Quote: "A (ton of money is anywhere between 4-6k profit) off 2 trucks that the mega carrier was running. My profit was about .45 cents per mile profit per tractor after all expenses anywhere between 10-15k miles a week . I left that company an turned trucks back in because, of there hiring practices and how they screened drivers you brought on ounce they were in the truck even after I spent a lot of money getting them on boarded an too the trucks ."

Hey shadrick. Are you doing the math on what this dude just claimed? 10 to 15k miles on 2 trucks? 45 cents per mile? How many miles per day is that? How many hours would it take to illegally go that many miles per day? At 45 cents per mile, how much more money would you make per hour working at pizza hut? No offense to this guy. Maybe I'm missing something?? Did I mess up my math?
Replied on Sat, Oct 30, 2021 at 10:47 PM CST

I'm equally confused on the math and the miles. Additionally, it seems the numbers he quoted were the numbers while running leased trucks at the mystery mega carrier. For simplicity sake I'd like to hear the breakdown on one truck. 2 to 3 thousand profit per truck is FAR from a ton of money.

The big question is how's he doing now with 5 trucks and 3 trailers?

Replied on Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 02:36 PM CST

There team tractors with those rates, running under the mega carrier they insured everything my tractors everything for 100$ per week per tractor.

I have settlements for proof, that I'll show later .

Replied on Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 07:46 PM CST
Quote: "There team tractors with those rates, running under the mega carrier they insured everything my tractors everything for 100$ per week per tractor. I have settlements for proof, that I'll show later . "

Why would you want to provide documentation to prove any of that. Correct my math if it's wrong here. You said 10 to 15 k miles per week with 2 trucks. For easy math let's average that to 12500. Divided by 2 trucks that's 6150 miles per week. Divided by 6 days that's 1041 miles per day. At your 45 cents per mile profit, that's 468 dollars profit per truck. Divided by 2 drivers for a team that's 234 dollars per person, if he puts in 12 hours that's just over 19 dollars per hour to operate your own business and live on the road. McDonald's, burger king, Hardee's, pizza hut are paying 20 per hour. Fleet owners are paying 75 cents to 1 dollar per mile to decent drivers. I'm personally not interested in paying myself any less that 30 dollars per hour to run my own business and be away from my family but that's just my opinion. But why would you encourage this gentleman to do something that pays less than a fast food restaurant pays their employees? Unless I've misunderstood your numbers?
Replied on Sun, Oct 31, 2021 at 08:53 PM CST

Apparently you have no idea what profit means, after all expenses drivers included I worked about 4 hours a week with 2 trucks running because the carrier ran everything I simply paid my drivers, an took care of maintenance when it did occur on my tractors.

.45 cents per mile is profit ... after all expenses driver everything.

my drivers were paid .72 cpm

100$ a day each on break downs as well as meals provided 25$ a stop, 150$ short pay.

they never averaged below 2k a week each

i took drivers with less than 6 months experience an paid them excellent.


before running your mouth perhaps, think about the word net profit.

Replied on Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 07:30 AM CST
To be clear about what I'm skeptical of specifically. Two trucks pounding out more than 1000 miles a day per truck, at 45cents per mile NET profit per truck is over 900 dollars a day in your pocket for your 4 hours per day of work that you claimed. That puts your yearly wage in the upper 200k mark. I don't believe anybody would stop doing something that great. 4 hours per day and 250k plus? Do you see where it's easy to be skeptical?
Replied on Mon, Nov 01, 2021 at 07:30 AM CST
Quote: "Apparently you have no idea what profit means, after all expenses drivers included I worked about 4 hours a week with 2 trucks running because the carrier ran everything I simply paid my drivers, an took care of maintenance when it did occur on my tractors. .45 cents per mile is profit ... after all expenses driver everything. my drivers were paid .72 cpm 100$ a day each on break downs as well as meals provided 25$ a stop, 150$ short pay. they never averaged below 2k a week each i took drivers with less than 6 months experience an paid them excellent. before running your mouth perhaps, think about the word net profit. "

I should tap out at this point but that's no fun. I don't believe a word of that. It's possible I'm wrong. But I don't believe it. I'm not running my mouth. I've asked questions about your numbers because I'm skeptical. If you are telling the truth there would be no reason to get defensive about somebody questioning it, and if you were telling the truth you'd provide the documentation to prove all of it rather than question my intelligence by assuming I don't know what profit means. I think you are trying to draw attention to my stupidity in order to distract people from looking into the stuff you made up. Show me that I'm wrong and I'll own up to it.
Replied on Fri, Nov 05, 2021 at 09:01 PM CST
Quote: "Alright, let’s get into this. This nonsense about lease purchases don’t work it depends on upon your strategy is your strategy using the lease truck as a stepping stone to higher income, to be able to open your own authority or is it actually truck ownership ? I did 2 lease trucks from a mega carrier an made a ton of money, not granted this is anecdotal. However that money, I made enabled me to open my own authority with 5 trucks. I started December of 2020, it’s October 2021. We have 5 trucks, 3 reefers. An a dedicated contract with Publix. It’s doable don’t listen to anyone that tells you, can’t do it. I’m 27, it’s doable go out there kick a$$ an do it good luck an stay safe ."

I was going through some old photos this afternoon and came across these and thought about the comment referring to "a ton of money" . This is what I think of, but nowhere near a ton (2000lbs). Also Lets finish the week with a funny video. Have a good weekend everyone!

Replied on Sat, Nov 13, 2021 at 10:38 PM CST
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I’m 37 myself and been in it 15 years ,I wouldn’t even consider a lease deal,I started saving as a company driver then I bought a 10k truck ran it for 10 months,payed myself a minimum and saved the rest every week then bought a 379. Got to start small if ya want to build big
Replied on Sun, Nov 14, 2021 at 01:02 PM CST
I wonder if this thread would have lasted this long if the title would have been lease purchase Volvo? Seems like everyone is more attracted to the 1970’s image of trucking than the current or future image of the industry.
Replied on Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 12:32 PM CST
Quote: "I wonder if this thread would have lasted this long if the title would have been lease purchase Volvo? Seems like everyone is more attracted to the 1970’s image of trucking than the current or future image of the industry."

Because the current image of automatic trucks made of plastic and fiberglass are lazy cheap and pieces of complete and total junk I was raised around 379 and currently driving a 389 and I will never go back to driving a Volvo or a cascadia or any of the short nose cheap trucks they do not hold up and a total waste of money a 379 or 389 or even a w900 will last forever if you do your maintenance and worth the money you pay for them your just wasting money on anything else

Replied on Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 02:06 PM CST

WHAT A LINE OF BULLSHIT. YOU BELONG TO A CULT AND DON'T KNOW IT.

Replied on Mon, Nov 15, 2021 at 04:13 PM CST
Quote: "I wonder if this thread would have lasted this long if the title would have been lease purchase Volvo? Seems like everyone is more attracted to the 1970’s image of trucking than the current or future image of the industry."

PLEASE tell me the current and future image of trucking isn’t a freaking Volvo😳
Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:45 AM CST
Quote: "PLEASE tell me the current and future image of trucking isn’t a freaking Volvo😳"

A Volvo may be a upgrade to a Tesla, what’s coming very soon is a aerodynamic piece of plastic with a electric motor and giant battery pack, as the supply chain switches back to a hub and spoke system and drivers and equipment return to the yard every night, so they can be recharged at night. That’s why there was no money in the infrastructure bill for truck parking, it won’t be needed in the near future, the days of rolling coal in a classic truck and running coast to coast are ending soon, in the next 5-10 years.
Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:45 AM CST
Quote: "PLEASE tell me the current and future image of trucking isn’t a freaking Volvo😳"

Can't. Call it a "Swedish Peterbilt". Maybe you'd feel better.

Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:46 PM CST
Quote: "Can't. Call it a "Swedish Peterbilt". Maybe you'd feel better."

Did you just say I belong to a cult and don't know it seriously you can see your way right off my post thank you very much

Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 12:46 PM CST
Quote: "A Volvo may be a upgrade to a Tesla, what’s coming very soon is a aerodynamic piece of plastic with a electric motor and giant battery pack, as the supply chain switches back to a hub and spoke system and drivers and equipment return to the yard every night, so they can be recharged at night. That’s why there was no money in the infrastructure bill for truck parking, it won’t be needed in the near future, the days of rolling coal in a classic truck and running coast to coast are ending soon, in the next 5-10 years."

As far as trucks converting to batteries and no longer rolling coal in my opinion that's a load of crap and a Volvo is no Tesla they are complete junk but saying trucks will go completely to electric is just silly I don't believe for one second rolling coal will ever go away these electric trucks are not gonna last this new age crap is insane and ridiculous

Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 02:21 PM CST
Quote: "As far as trucks converting to batteries and no longer rolling coal in my opinion that's a load of crap and a Volvo is no Tesla they are complete junk but saying trucks will go completely to electric is just silly I don't believe for one second rolling coal will ever go away these electric trucks are not gonna last this new age crap is insane and ridiculous "

Remember when they said the same thing about ELD’s? Or delete shops openly advertising deletes in public? Everyone said stuff will never change, been doing it this way for years, well how did that turn out? There are too many big players that want this electric truck stuff to stop it, names like Wallmart, target etc, along with a abundance of government welfare money, The Global corporations are demanding it, hell even Harley Davidson is coming out with a electric Vehicle. Do I support it? Hell no, but it’s not about what I like, it’s about corporations forcing change on society and getting rich at it.
Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 08:51 PM CST
Quote: "Can't. Call it a "Swedish Peterbilt". Maybe you'd feel better."

😂😂
Replied on Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 08:51 PM CST
Quote: "Did you just say I belong to a cult and don't know it seriously you can see your way right off my post thank you very much "

Don’t worry about it, this is justin lighthearted fun. It’s ok to be in the “class pays” cult where the motto is, “ there’s no class in fiberglass” 😉😂😂😂😂😂
Replied on Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 08:18 AM CST
Quote: "As far as trucks converting to batteries and no longer rolling coal in my opinion that's a load of crap and a Volvo is no Tesla they are complete junk but saying trucks will go completely to electric is just silly I don't believe for one second rolling coal will ever go away these electric trucks are not gonna last this new age crap is insane and ridiculous "

I used to agree with that 100 percent. The first time I used a cordless Milwaukee electric impact to remove and remount 2 sets of duals on one battery changed my mind! A tool that weighs a few pounds and costs a few hundred dollars is capable of doing what a 1300 dollar and 70 pound one inch air impact can do. Blew my mind and gave me the impression that I'll see electric sooner than later.