A Caution for DDG

Jun 16, 2016 at 04:01 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. ICM in St Jo will not stand behind their product. You may receive a hot load. It is extrememly slow loading. Tyson at Westville, OK will not reject it, and will only allow one hour to to unload and then send you to the end of the line to rot in hell. In this case 18 trucks. Gavalon will offer no support. I chose to leave and dump the remainder. I had to buy it and spent three more hours getting the inferior product off the trailer. I had 24 hours tied up in the load.

Replied on Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 08:40 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Gavilon hasn't had a good rate for anything in atleast two years. They are low ballers and won't even try to get a reasonable rate for their truckers. Last time I called on loads it was $1.35 mile and terrible locations. I haven't bothered calling them since. Their broker got all smartassy with me and told me they have guys lined up all over that will haul for that. I had done business with them for over 5 years prior before their rates went to hell.

Replied on Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 08:40 PM CST

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Gavilon hasn't had a good rate for anything in atleast two years. They are low ballers and won't even try to get a reasonable rate for their truckers. Last time I called on loads it was $1.35 mile and terrible locations. I haven't bothered calling them since. Their broker got all smartassy with me and told me they have guys lined up all over that will haul for that. I had done business with them for over 5 years prior before their rates went to hell.

Replied on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 01:14 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. With the heat the way it is. DDG does not belong in a hopper this time of year. If they want to put it into the hopper, you better charge twice what you did before because of the headaches that you have described. Stay away from the cookie dough as well.

Replied on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 04:12 PM CST + 1 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Agreed, I received the same treatment. Im not a whinner, but now its a matter of principle. They dont own trucks because of the variable circumstances of the industry. We as truck owners are caught in situations where we are captive to the load and so, we put up with it. Going forward I will never be put in a captive situation again. If they will not pay detention, and the load time looks long, Im leaving. If the unload conditions are the same, Im leaving and will sell or dump the product to the highest bidder.

Replied on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 04:12 PM CST

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Agreed, I received the same treatment. Im not a whinner, but now its a matter of principle. They dont own trucks because of the variable circumstances of the industry. We as truck owners are caught in situations where we are captive to the load and so, we put up with it. Going forward I will never be put in a captive situation again. If they will not pay detention, and the load time looks long, Im leaving. If the unload conditions are the same, Im leaving and will sell or dump the product to the highest bidder.

Replied on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 06:17 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Agreed, I received the same treatment. Im not a whinner, but now its a matter of principle. They dont own trucks because of the variable circumstances of the industry. We as truck owners are caught in situations where we are captive to the load and so, we put up with it. Going forward I will never be put in a captive situation again. If they will not pay detention, and the load time looks long, Im leaving. If the unload conditions are the same, Im leaving and will sell or dump the product to the highest bidder." Better to just not haul the crap in the first place. Over at the ICG we have a wall of shame, maybe we should add a section for crappy products as well. If the customer is paying the proper amount the they will never hear me bitch. Oh thats right they dont hear me bitch, because when they are cheap it does not go in the hopper. You want to know what kind of products to charge for, really charge for. The harder and more dangerous the work the more it should pay. We can all make more money working at Wal-Mart as a greeter, then what they are offering hoppers right now. Somebody offered $23.00 per T for St Joe, mo to Westville, ok yesterday. He thought that was good money. I asked him to let me know when it gets back to $45.00 per T and then we may talk. Until rates come into some form of reality, I and others have parked the hoppers. They pay more to run dry vans, and guess what they load and unload the product for you.

Replied on Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 06:17 PM CST

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Quote: "Agreed, I received the same treatment. Im not a whinner, but now its a matter of principle. They dont own trucks because of the variable circumstances of the industry. We as truck owners are caught in situations where we are captive to the load and so, we put up with it. Going forward I will never be put in a captive situation again. If they will not pay detention, and the load time looks long, Im leaving. If the unload conditions are the same, Im leaving and will sell or dump the product to the highest bidder."

Better to just not haul the crap in the first place. Over at the ICG we have a wall of shame, maybe we should add a section for crappy products as well. If the customer is paying the proper amount the they will never hear me bitch. Oh thats right they dont hear me bitch, because when they are cheap it does not go in the hopper. You want to know what kind of products to charge for, really charge for. The harder and more dangerous the work the more it should pay. We can all make more money working at Wal-Mart as a greeter, then what they are offering hoppers right now. Somebody offered $23.00 per T for St Joe, mo to Westville, ok yesterday. He thought that was good money. I asked him to let me know when it gets back to $45.00 per T and then we may talk. Until rates come into some form of reality, I and others have parked the hoppers. They pay more to run dry vans, and guess what they load and unload the product for you.

Replied on Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 02:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Alfred, this is Mike Hurd. I still cannot log in for some reason. Rascal1953 in Shelbyville, TN.

Replied on Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:12 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Agreed, I received the same treatment. Im not a whinner, but now its a matter of principle. They dont own trucks because of the variable circumstances of the industry. We as truck owners are caught in situations where we are captive to the load and so, we put up with it. Going forward I will never be put in a captive situation again. If they will not pay detention, and the load time looks long, Im leaving. If the unload conditions are the same, Im leaving and will sell or dump the product to the highest bidder." it looks like we have to get a rate confirmation stating we get detension after 2 hours of atleast $50 per hour until paper work signed & leaving of getting there with the load, i think until truckers speak up for what is fair, instead of just taking loads that take time to unload they will continue to shoot themselfs in the foot. As my Dad has said there is no gain from being a busy fool.

Replied on Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 12:12 AM CST

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it looks like we have to get a rate confirmation stating we get detension after 2 hours of atleast $50 per hour until paper work signed & leaving of getting there with the load, i think until truckers speak up for what is fair, instead of just taking loads that take time to unload they will continue to shoot themselfs in the foot. As my Dad has said there is no gain from being a busy fool.

Replied on Sun, Jun 19, 2016 at 11:03 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Alfred, this is Mike Hurd. I still cannot log in for some reason. Rascal1953 in Shelbyville, TN." Just sent you and update email.