Anyone know how trucks are getting loads, without insurance or authority

May 08, 2020 at 09:07 AM CST + 10
ROCKY ALLISON ALLISON TRUCKING Woodward, OK 5 Posts, 5 +, 2 -	ROCKY ALLISON ALLISON TRUCKING - Woodward, OK In the last couple of years I have been seeing a lot of old beat up POS trucks out there with people that can't speak english. They dont have authority and they don't have insurance and yet they are able to load out on farms and carry to ports? Are these people being vetted, if so by who? Are they getting loads from someone that is getting the loads from the broker with all the legal qualifacations and then farming out the loads to people with none and taking a little cut? The reason I ask is a farmer brought this to my attention. The operators that normally had hauled his wheat where not coming out and told him that the rate had gotten so cheap it was no longer any way they could haul. Another thing that I personally saw where drivers with no driver license are driving. DOT in Lamar Colo was the man that told me about it when he called me in to check my license. He said they had caught 9 in 1 day? So they weren't smart enough to get around the scales and got caught, GOOD! I myself have been struggling in last couple of months because rates have dropped below what I personally will haul for. " Fuel prices are down" Bullsh#$. My insurance just went up $800+ a year. When I called and ask why because I have a good record and nothing had happened or changed? The answer was by the agent "There has been a hugh claim on some nuclear accident somewhere and they had to pay out a hugh sum so everyone is being hit". WTF? Fuel prices being down shouldn't cut the rates. Nothing and I mean nothing else is lower. So I sit more now than I run. In MY opinion if I can't make some kind of profit it is cheaper to set than to put on wear and tear that will show up on down the road. O/O's know what I am saying taxes, tires, oil. Running below a profit will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Hold out for better rates and hopefully we can get things back to normal and weed out these cut throats, including most, not all brokers. Kind of got off the original post but it all goes together.

May 08, 2020 at 09:07 AM CST

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ROCKY ALLISON

ALLISON TRUCKING

Woodward, OK

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ROCKY ALLISON

ALLISON TRUCKING - Woodward, OK

In the last couple of years I have been seeing a lot of old beat up POS trucks out there with people that can't speak english. They dont have authority and they don't have insurance and yet they are able to load out on farms and carry to ports? Are these people being vetted, if so by who? Are they getting loads from someone that is getting the loads from the broker with all the legal qualifacations and then farming out the loads to people with none and taking a little cut? The reason I ask is a farmer brought this to my attention. The operators that normally had hauled his wheat where not coming out and told him that the rate had gotten so cheap it was no longer any way they could haul. Another thing that I personally saw where drivers with no driver license are driving. DOT in Lamar Colo was the man that told me about it when he called me in to check my license. He said they had caught 9 in 1 day? So they weren't smart enough to get around the scales and got caught, GOOD! I myself have been struggling in last couple of months because rates have dropped below what I personally will haul for. " Fuel prices are down" Bullsh#$. My insurance just went up $800+ a year. When I called and ask why because I have a good record and nothing had happened or changed? The answer was by the agent "There has been a hugh claim on some nuclear accident somewhere and they had to pay out a hugh sum so everyone is being hit". WTF? Fuel prices being down shouldn't cut the rates. Nothing and I mean nothing else is lower. So I sit more now than I run. In MY opinion if I can't make some kind of profit it is cheaper to set than to put on wear and tear that will show up on down the road. O/O's know what I am saying taxes, tires, oil. Running below a profit will bite you in the ass sooner or later. Hold out for better rates and hopefully we can get things back to normal and weed out these cut throats, including most, not all brokers.

Kind of got off the original post but it all goes together.

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:46 AM CST + 1
MICHAEL BROWN MICHAEL SHANE BROWN SYRACUSE, KS 8 Posts, 2 +, 2 -	MICHAEL BROWN MICHAEL SHANE BROWN - SYRACUSE, KS I see it all th we time in my area the problem is the shippers are hiring them how they get by with it ill never know. I get told time and time again trucks will do it cheaper than me and most the time it's the ones you speak of. Of course they can do it cheaper they don't pay the same stuff we do. It will bite them someday

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:46 AM CST

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MICHAEL BROWN

MICHAEL SHANE BROWN

SYRACUSE, KS

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MICHAEL BROWN

MICHAEL SHANE BROWN - SYRACUSE, KS

I see it all th we time in my area the problem is the shippers are hiring them how they get by with it ill never know. I get told time and time again trucks will do it cheaper than me and most the time it's the ones you speak of. Of course they can do it cheaper they don't pay the same stuff we do. It will bite them someday

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:46 AM CST + 1
GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT DONNYBROOK, ND 96 Posts, 20 +, 5 -	GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT - DONNYBROOK, ND I see it a lot in Nd. Especially with fertilizer. Farm trucks going to the same elevator I did to drop off fertilizer guy gets out with the paperwork and the crank and unloads some are South Africa some I assume from india they should only let citizens of the USA drive in the USA. There is an influx of the drivers from Canada that are other countries running all over Nd. They haul pea products back and milling wheat down. They have some stick on sign they put on the door and load and go also some of the Canadian trucks have just a post office box in minot Nd. But are Canadian licensed so they bring down grain drop it off then run 100 miles pick up fertilizer drop it off and get more drop it off all over the state then haul corn back. This is an everyday occurrence. Doesn’t matter who you talk to

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 08:46 AM CST

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GREG BOMMELMAN

WILDWIND TRANSPORT

DONNYBROOK, ND

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GREG BOMMELMAN

WILDWIND TRANSPORT - DONNYBROOK, ND

I see it a lot in Nd. Especially with fertilizer.

Farm trucks going to the same elevator I did to drop off fertilizer guy gets out with the paperwork and the crank and unloads some are South Africa some I assume from india

they should only let citizens of the USA drive in the USA. There is an influx of the drivers from Canada that are other countries running all over Nd. They haul pea products back and milling wheat down. They have some stick on sign they put on the door and load and go

also some of the Canadian trucks have just a post office box in minot Nd. But are Canadian licensed so they bring down grain drop it off then run 100 miles pick up fertilizer drop it off and get more drop it off all over the state then haul corn back. This is an everyday occurrence. Doesn’t matter who you talk to

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 06:29 PM CST + 1
MICHAEL TSCHIDA MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING South Haven, MN 40 Posts, 11 +, 1 -	MICHAEL TSCHIDA MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING - South Haven, MN There was an oversized load I used to run out of the North west. The routing required to run it was heavy with Escort requirements due to road construction. It added huge miles and wait times. We needed more money to make it worth doing but couldn't get it because some low buck shit equipment running immigrants just ran it illegally. The broker was aware but didn't care. I hope his several hundred thousand dollar 15 foot wide load gets impounded one day.

Replied on Sat, May 09, 2020 at 06:29 PM CST

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MICHAEL TSCHIDA

MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING

South Haven, MN

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MICHAEL TSCHIDA

MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING - South Haven, MN

There was an oversized load I used to run out of the North west. The routing required to run it was heavy with Escort requirements due to road construction. It added huge miles and wait times. We needed more money to make it worth doing but couldn't get it because some low buck shit equipment running immigrants just ran it illegally. The broker was aware but didn't care. I hope his several hundred thousand dollar 15 foot wide load gets impounded one day.

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 08:45 AM CST - 1
ELI UNDERWOOD E&L TRUCKING LLC Siloam Springs, AR 21 Posts, 12 +, 0 -	ELI UNDERWOOD E&L TRUCKING LLC - Siloam Springs, AR How do you know they don't have insurance? In some states if you are hauling ag from field to storage you don't need a CDL, but not across state lines or beyond a certain distance.

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 08:45 AM CST

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ELI UNDERWOOD

E&L TRUCKING LLC

Siloam Springs, AR

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ELI UNDERWOOD

E&L TRUCKING LLC - Siloam Springs, AR

How do you know they don't have insurance? In some states if you are hauling ag from field to storage you don't need a CDL, but not across state lines or beyond a certain distance.

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:14 AM CST + 1
ED MCCONNELL ET TRUCKING LLC CASSELTON, ND 206 Posts, 29 +, 0 -	ED MCCONNELL ET TRUCKING LLC - CASSELTON, ND Originally Posted by: GREG BOMMELMAN Quote: "I see it a lot in Nd. Especially with fertilizer. Farm trucks going to the same elevator I did to drop off fertilizer guy gets out with the paperwork and the crank and unloads some are South Africa some I assume from india they should only let citizens of the USA drive in the USA. There is an influx of the drivers from Canada that are other countries running all over Nd. They haul pea products back and milling wheat down. They have some stick on sign they put on the door and load and go also some of the Canadian trucks have just a post office box in minot Nd. But are Canadian licensed so they bring down grain drop it off then run 100 miles pick up fertilizer drop it off and get more drop it off all over the state then haul corn back. This is an everyday occurrence. Doesn’t matter who you talk to " If you see a farm truck hauling commercially with farm plates, turn them in! They can only haul their own products not for hire. If they have a commecial plate and all the dot numbers and such, then there is nothing we can do.

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 09:14 AM CST

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ED MCCONNELL

ET TRUCKING LLC

CASSELTON, ND

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ED MCCONNELL

ET TRUCKING LLC - CASSELTON, ND

Originally Posted by: GREG BOMMELMAN
Quote: "I see it a lot in Nd. Especially with fertilizer. Farm trucks going to the same elevator I did to drop off fertilizer guy gets out with the paperwork and the crank and unloads some are South Africa some I assume from india they should only let citizens of the USA drive in the USA. There is an influx of the drivers from Canada that are other countries running all over Nd. They haul pea products back and milling wheat down. They have some stick on sign they put on the door and load and go also some of the Canadian trucks have just a post office box in minot Nd. But are Canadian licensed so they bring down grain drop it off then run 100 miles pick up fertilizer drop it off and get more drop it off all over the state then haul corn back. This is an everyday occurrence. Doesn’t matter who you talk to "

If you see a farm truck hauling commercially with farm plates, turn them in! They can only haul their own products not for hire. If they have a commecial plate and all the dot numbers and such, then there is nothing we can do.

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM CST
GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT DONNYBROOK, ND 96 Posts, 20 +, 5 -	GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT - DONNYBROOK, ND Originally Posted by: ED MCCONNELL Quote: "If you see a farm truck hauling commercially with farm plates, turn them in! They can only haul their own products not for hire. If they have a commecial plate and all the dot numbers and such, then there is nothing we can do." Elevator will tell you they haul grain and fertilizer in and out Elevator still lets them haul

Replied on Mon, May 11, 2020 at 12:31 PM CST

GREG BOMMELMAN

WILDWIND TRANSPORT

DONNYBROOK, ND

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GREG BOMMELMAN

WILDWIND TRANSPORT - DONNYBROOK, ND

Originally Posted by: ED MCCONNELL
Quote: "If you see a farm truck hauling commercially with farm plates, turn them in! They can only haul their own products not for hire. If they have a commecial plate and all the dot numbers and such, then there is nothing we can do."

Elevator will tell you they haul grain and fertilizer in and out Elevator still lets them haul

Replied on Fri, May 15, 2020 at 04:17 PM CST + 1
JEFF TOMLINSON TRK SERVICES LLC Fort Dodge, IA 43 Posts, 9 +, 0 -	JEFF TOMLINSON TRK SERVICES LLC - Fort Dodge, IA Originally Posted by: GREG BOMMELMAN Quote: "Elevator will tell you they haul grain and fertilizer in and out Elevator still lets them haul" I saw that to. So I took photos of those trucks hauling for the elevator. Kinda upset the cart alittle. I was pretty much locked out after they found out who it was. But it did clear out a lot of the illegle hauling. Now everyone seems to be closer to legit. Because rates are hard to keep fair today. The reason I bid with freight and fuel. Keeps it fair.

Replied on Fri, May 15, 2020 at 04:17 PM CST

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JEFF TOMLINSON

TRK SERVICES LLC

Fort Dodge, IA

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JEFF TOMLINSON

TRK SERVICES LLC - Fort Dodge, IA

Originally Posted by: GREG BOMMELMAN
Quote: "Elevator will tell you they haul grain and fertilizer in and out Elevator still lets them haul"

I saw that to. So I took photos of those trucks hauling for the elevator. Kinda upset the cart alittle. I was pretty much locked out after they found out who it was. But it did clear out a lot of the illegle hauling. Now everyone seems to be closer to legit. Because rates are hard to keep fair today. The reason I bid with freight and fuel. Keeps it fair.

Replied on Sun, May 17, 2020 at 06:31 PM CST
Rosemary Awada CDL TRUCKING San Jose, CA 2 Posts, 3 +, 0 -	Rosemary Awada CDL TRUCKING - San Jose, CA I am looking for a trucking partner that we can always ride together .. text me 661-465-2209

Replied on Sun, May 17, 2020 at 06:31 PM CST

Rosemary Awada

CDL TRUCKING

San Jose, CA

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Rosemary Awada

CDL TRUCKING - San Jose, CA

I am looking for a trucking partner that we can always ride together .. text me 661-465-2209