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Jul 16, 2016 at 11:32 AM CST
Could somebody please explain to me why the big truck stops think they can charge 25 to 40 cents more for their fuel? I don't get it.
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 12:14 PM CST
Becouse they don't care about the little guy, the big fleets buy tens of thousands of gallons at a low set rate
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 12:48 PM CST
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The first question I would ask you is why are you paying pump price for fuel. I see you are from ND, according to Petro's website the pump price at the Petro in Fargo today is $2.459. My "Mega Fleet" of 4 trucks pays $2.108 today at the Petro in Fargo. We pass 100% of our discount on to our O/O leased to us if anyone cares. I could just tell you how I do this but if you find out on your own it will be much more rewarding in the end.
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 01:36 PM CST
Originally Posted by: TOM MOSBACHER
Quote: "The first question I would ask you is why are you paying pump price for fuel. I see you are from ND, according to Petro's website the pump price at the Petro in Fargo today is $2.459. My "Mega Fleet" of 4 trucks pays $2.108 today at the Petro in Fargo. We pass 100% of our discount on to our O/O leased to us if anyone cares. I could just tell you how I do this but if you find out on your own it will be much more rewarding in the end."

Let me guess, you have a fuel card you pay for
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:23 PM CST
Originally Posted by: TROY JEFFERS
Quote: "Becouse they don't care about the little guy, the big fleets buy tens of thousands of gallons at a low set rate "

The big boys may have a better deal than that. Many moons ago a mom & pop truck stop I worked at was a Schneider fuel stop.

Schneider had fuel delivered to our storage and paid 10¢ per gallon to the owner for storage and pump use. The boss claimed he made more money off that than from a normal sale and Schneider sent their fuel delivered to the station so it no touch for us.

I'm sure the mega fleets have a similar ir better set up nowadays.
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:38 PM CST
thats kind of in line , they play alot of it off the futures market and such , plus the big boys buy a million gallons or more a month , so they get a discount, theres also actually fuel brokrs out there that broker discounts , but it goes buy the volume at which you purchase and then you have to "pick it up" at certain places., i know with the way i work if i had a plce along my route where i could put a bulk tank i could get a decent discount. most jobbers will supply a tank and pump free if you buy from them. i had a 3000 gallon tank a couple years ago and was gettin a 25 to 30 cent discount on fuel.
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:42 PM CST
Just think of the discount at millions of gallons a year, they might make a cent or two off the diesel
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:45 PM CST
Thank god I put a Apu on my truck couple weeks ago plus my bunk heater, I see a lot of drilling pipe being hauled around, I have a feeling next year it will go back up to who knows what price
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:51 PM CST
well the big guys like loves , flyin j petro and t/a are actually gouding the little company and the o/o. down here its 2.30 on average cash price at the big ones ,the little independants 2.19 and then a few around if you know where they are at 2.09. where i've been fuleing the last month there is a flying j on one corner at 2.35 and across the street a nice little independant , just as nice and clean as the j but fuel is 2.09. the j is still selling more fuel for some reason than they are.. don't make much sense but......
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 10:55 PM CST
Originally Posted by: TROY JEFFERS
Quote: "Thank god I put a Apu on my truck couple weeks ago plus my bunk heater, I see a lot of drilling pipe being hauled around, I have a feeling next year it will go back up to who knows what price"

they just movin thaat pipe round gettin ready for 4th quarter , oilfiled always picks up 4th quarter , them companies have to try to deplete their budgets so they can get the same money again in the new year. 4th quarter and part of the first quarter of the year is always a little busier for oilfield, it spills over .plus if they don't spend a little money they have to pay taxes on it so they have an end of year project bump
Replied on Sat, Jul 16, 2016 at 11:03 PM CST
I was going to get a fuel card just haven't yet, really the only place I need it is in Montana , they have you boxed in on the interstates, town pump owns them all almost which is part of j and pilot, other than that I do the same thing and go to the little secret places that don't gouge the hell out of you, besides I can't stand any big chain Ta , j or pilot, to many flip flop non speaking English dip shits for me....
Replied on Sun, Jul 17, 2016 at 04:03 PM CST
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The reason the J is selling more fuel is that the J is discounting to all the big fleets through "cost plus contracts" available to fleets of more than 50 trucks or however they do it. These prices are available to single truck fleets and anyone else that joins National Association of Small Trucking Companies (NASTC) . The Quality Plus Network (QPN) is associated with Fleet One and gets small companies into the cheaper fuel. NASTC is the largest purchaser of fuel in the United States today. They can tell you the price and discounted price at the truckstop tomorrow.
Replied on Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 03:12 PM CST
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Last night I fueled at the TA in Seymour Indiana pump price $2.419. My price with my NASTC discount was $1.939
Replied on Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 10:47 AM CST
Originally Posted by: JOHN BIGHAM
Quote: "Last night I fueled at the TA in Seymour Indiana pump price $2.419. My price with my NASTC discount was $1.939"

How does that work,do you have a pay-per-each use card?..Just curious?
Replied on Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 02:00 PM CST
The NASTC card has an intial fee of $250.00 + $50.00 Fleet One ,and then $3.50 per month. I know the $250.00 is an annual fee I do not know about the other $50.00. The card can be set up several ways . one being a line of credit from a bank , two Fleet one will I believe set credit terms if I recall to $5000.00. and or prepaid. I opted for the Fleet One credit . The way my account is set up they debit my truck account weekly for the balance due.. Also with the NASTC membership you can receive a 10% discount at TA and Petro location on tires and other items , this is above any other discounts.
I saved $0.20 a gallon under pump price on all fuel purchased from February through May. Easily recouping the cost in less than 1 month. shoot them an email I dealt with Bobby Copeland they can give you an idea what prices will be and the locations in your area.
Replied on Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 09:15 AM CST
We use a "FleetOne" fuel card, but have Partnered with C.R. England (even we don't haul a lot for them), but they have a Total Bulk Fuel Discount, which they pass a portion on to us, so we save money and they make a few bucks. We still deal with FleetOne and pay them, but have a little CR England emblem in the upper left corner of our fuel card..
Replied on Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:14 AM CST
I have fleetone truckers advantage. Bobby Copeland he is with fleetone or NASTC
Replied on Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 10:43 AM CST
Thanks I just talked to Bobby
Replied on Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 03:40 PM CST
Originally Posted by: JOHN BIGHAM
Quote: " The NASTC card has an intial fee of $250.00 + $50.00 Fleet One ,and then $3.50 per month. I know the $250.00 is an annual fee I do not know about the other $50.00. The card can be set up several ways . one being a line of credit from a bank , two Fleet one will I believe set credit terms if I recall to $5000.00. and or prepaid. I opted for the Fleet One credit . The way my account is set up they debit my truck account weekly for the balance due.. Also with the NASTC membership you can receive a 10% discount at TA and Petro location on tires and other items , this is above any other discounts. I saved $0.20 a gallon under pump price on all fuel purchased from February through May. Easily recouping the cost in less than 1 month. shoot them an email I dealt with Bobby Copeland they can give you an idea what prices will be and the locations in your area."

Thanks John..