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$2.24 mi is good ?

It all depends upon the location he is running. If he is running that rate mainly in the midwest then he is doing good. If he is running that rate in Texas then he is doing really good, now if he is running that rate out east or on the west then it sucks. Like you said Kevin there are those that will say it is not good without us knowing the full circumstances of the loads and locations.

I agree with you Jason, but we don't even know if he is hauling bulk, he may be running flat bed. He stated that he was no longer running the end dump, so I think he is out of the bulk like a lot of us for the time being.

I remeber a time when I thought $2.25 all miles was GOOOD in the bulk, but then the rest of you showed me that it COULDDDD be better and that it SHOULDDDD be better.

Proverbs 27 verses 1-2
1 Boast not thyself of to morrow for though knowest not what a day may bring forth.
2 Let another man praise thee, and not thine own lips is heavier than them both.

well i personally think that the fella is doin ok , but , the differing factor is the little number at the end of the week not the big one, lets just say hypothetically that me and joe blow run the same miles in a month and he's runnin 5 bucks a mile and has a big new shiny pete a big new shiny trailer , momma drives a escalde he drives a new duramax , etc etc...... and i'm runnin 2.50 per mile drivin a truck 8 yrs old pullin a trailer 5 yrs old , that have both been babied by me , i don;t give a damn about turnin heads so i put my money into preventive maintenence watch my dollars close and keep my old equipment in just a good of shape as joes shiny stuff...... i drive a fairly new but practical vehicle just like momma does and we live life modest..... at the end of the week me and joe meet up and compare our profits and he see's that i brought home and profited 800 dollars more than he did after expenses , bills etc. but he just can't wrap his head around how...... as well as lots of oter people can't either, but then not everyone realizes that its not how much you make its how well you manage it. that being said ...yes, rates have to be up and sustainable in order for anyone no matter who they are to make money, and we do need to all work together to keep rates in a place where it is profitable to stay in business, but on the flip side i may not need as much as you , to be more succesfull than you thru proper management and wise descisions,

One thing abut the trucking business if you think you have the tiger by the toe and are one step ahead of everyone else it can turn around and bite you in a place you dont want to be bit..