Does this really add up?

Jul 16, 2019 at 09:10 PM CST + 8 - 3
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Ok so right now we are being told that the reason rates are falling is do to over capacity, to many new trucks have been added to the market. Well where did they suddenly find all these drivers to fill those new trucks? Most carriers were shrinking in size, couldn’t fill their existing trucks for years, yet in such a short time frame they solved that problem, plus suddenly found drivers to fill the new trucks? If capacity is no longer a issue, why do all the shippers still want the HOS changes fast tracked? Why does anyone need exemptions anymore? Or is it all a lie to get bullshit truckers into working for peanuts?

Replied on Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 06:18 AM CST + 2 - 2
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Please forgive the spelling errors, not sure what happened there.

Replied on Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 03:41 PM CST + 5 - 2
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Now that I have some of you thinking, let me share my thoughts. When folks see load boards drying up, the perception is that there is a shortage of freight, however we are not seeing tons of empty trucks at truck stops, the truck stops are full of loaded trucks, the tires are squatting when you walk past them. Most of the freight you see on load boards is being reposted by a second or third party, not the original broker. Those secondary brokers are being shut off from their source, the original broker is finding more good carriers to deal with directly these days, so it’s not winding up on load boards anymore.......Newbies see this and panic, run to Facebook and start talking about how the sky is falling, and shippers pick up on that and push the narrative rates are falling, you need to work for less, they use it to their advantage! AG may be struggling right now, but it’s not as bad as you think, there is plenty of other freight out there.

Replied on Wed, Jul 17, 2019 at 03:41 PM CST

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -

DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

Now that I have some of you thinking, let me share my thoughts. When folks see load boards drying up, the perception is that there is a shortage of freight, however we are not seeing tons of empty trucks at truck stops, the truck stops are full of loaded trucks, the tires are squatting when you walk past them. Most of the freight you see on load boards is being reposted by a second or third party, not the original broker. Those secondary brokers are being shut off from their source, the original broker is finding more good carriers to deal with directly these days, so it’s not winding up on load boards anymore.......Newbies see this and panic, run to Facebook and start talking about how the sky is falling, and shippers pick up on that and push the narrative rates are falling, you need to work for less, they use it to their advantage! AG may be struggling right now, but it’s not as bad as you think, there is plenty of other freight out there.

Replied on Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 01:25 PM CST + 2
ERIC BAUER GEORGE W BURNETT INC Buffalo, NY 1 Posts, 0 +, 0 -	ERIC BAUER GEORGE W BURNETT INC - Buffalo, NY Transport Topics and the ATA have stated that rates are falling and there is over capacity. NONSENSE. Maybe in their "mega" fleet world it is , but not in the real world. We work for several very large shippers in our region and they are always putting pressure on us to cut or keep rates the same. We tell them good luck. I always tell them We do not need to do this for practice. If you want us to be here for you then you have to accept reality.

Replied on Thu, Jul 18, 2019 at 01:25 PM CST

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ERIC BAUER

GEORGE W BURNETT INC

Buffalo, NY

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ERIC BAUER

GEORGE W BURNETT INC - Buffalo, NY

Transport Topics and the ATA have stated that rates are falling and there is over capacity. NONSENSE. Maybe in their "mega" fleet world it is , but not in the real world. We work for several very large shippers in our region and they are always putting pressure on us to cut or keep rates the same. We tell them good luck. I always tell them We do not need to do this for practice. If you want us to be here for you then you have to accept reality.

Replied on Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:12 PM CST
JOHN MCCORD MCCORD OF COLORADO Denver, CO 9 Posts, 12 +, 2 -	JOHN MCCORD MCCORD OF COLORADO - Denver, CO There is over capacity on the Reefer side as maybe you remember not so long ago people on here bought Reefer’s and were bragging about how much more money was in it all they did was ruin it for the guys who had been pulling them all the time were lucky a most of them think hopper freight isn’t worth the bother or we would see rates at a dollar or less average per mile we are our own worst enemy. Nobody ever goes and tells a shipper hey I can do a better job than xyz company for the same or a little more money No they say hey we can do that cheaper

Replied on Fri, Aug 02, 2019 at 02:12 PM CST

JOHN MCCORD

MCCORD OF COLORADO

Denver, CO

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JOHN MCCORD

MCCORD OF COLORADO - Denver, CO

There is over capacity on the Reefer side as maybe you remember not so long ago people on here bought Reefer’s and were bragging about how much more money was in it all they did was ruin it for the guys who had been pulling them all the time were lucky a most of them think hopper freight isn’t worth the bother or we would see rates at a dollar or less average per mile we are our own worst enemy. Nobody ever goes and tells a shipper hey I can do a better job than xyz company for the same or a little more money No they say hey we can do that cheaper

Replied on Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 07:23 AM CST
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN The sad part is, this is as good as it gets, we are at the top of the economic cycle right now, the stock market is at a all time high, home sales have doubled in the last 12 months, everywhere we look we see construction, almost every employer complains that they need help but can’t find anyone. The meggafleets are feeling the effect of the trade war, the port activity on the coast has slowed, however I wonder how much of their pain is really the result of payback from the shippers who are still pissed about the ELD? And now those same folks who paid Uncle Sam to shove the ELD down our throat are trying to cause insurance problems for everyone? And the meggafleets want to know why shippers won’t sign contracts with them now? The meggafleets are driving the spot markets Down right now as a result, flooding it with trucks because they need to stay busy. What they don’t want to talk about are the success stories out there, the guys who are now eating the meggfleets lunch. For example there is a company with red trucks based out Duluth Mn that is growing by leaps and bounds right now, they probably grew from 100 to 350 trucks in the last couple of years, and they show no signs of slowing down.

Replied on Sat, Aug 03, 2019 at 07:23 AM CST

DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -

DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

The sad part is, this is as good as it gets, we are at the top of the economic cycle right now, the stock market is at a all time high, home sales have doubled in the last 12 months, everywhere we look we see construction, almost every employer complains that they need help but can’t find anyone. The meggafleets are feeling the effect of the trade war, the port activity on the coast has slowed, however I wonder how much of their pain is really the result of payback from the shippers who are still pissed about the ELD? And now those same folks who paid Uncle Sam to shove the ELD down our throat are trying to cause insurance problems for everyone? And the meggafleets want to know why shippers won’t sign contracts with them now? The meggafleets are driving the spot markets Down right now as a result, flooding it with trucks because they need to stay busy. What they don’t want to talk about are the success stories out there, the guys who are now eating the meggfleets lunch. For example there is a company with red trucks based out Duluth Mn that is growing by leaps and bounds right now, they probably grew from 100 to 350 trucks in the last couple of years, and they show no signs of slowing down.

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Does this really add up?