ELD data.

Jun 05, 2019 at 07:57 AM CST + 8
DAVID ZIERKE ZIERKE LLC Hawarden, IA 42 Posts, 22 +, 3 -	DAVID ZIERKE ZIERKE LLC - Hawarden, IA I have been reading articles about all the ways the ELD providers have to make money from the data collected from us. Better read and understand the user agreement.

Replied on Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 07:39 AM CST + 3 - 2
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 681 Posts, 344 +, 118 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN It’s true, that all your company secrets are for sale now, your shippers, your receivers the distance between them, the way you dispatch your drivers, the amount of time you spend on the docks, all the information your competitor needs to cut your rate, is now available for purchase, thanks to ELD’s. Brokers are no longer protected by contracts with carriers, since the Broker has no control over the data collected by the ELD, or who your provider sells it to. I warned folks this was coming quite awhile ago, just like I warned folks a trade war was coming before trump was even elected. Funny how that turned out.

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

It’s true, that all your company secrets are for sale now, your shippers, your receivers the distance between them, the way you dispatch your drivers, the amount of time you spend on the docks, all the information your competitor needs to cut your rate, is now available for purchase, thanks to ELD’s. Brokers are no longer protected by contracts with carriers, since the Broker has no control over the data collected by the ELD, or who your provider sells it to. I warned folks this was coming quite awhile ago, just like I warned folks a trade war was coming before trump was even elected. Funny how that turned out.

Replied on Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:54 AM CST + 3
ALFRED JORDAN POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC PECULIAR, MO 1189 Posts, 207 +, 6 -	ALFRED JORDAN POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC - PECULIAR, MO Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS Quote: "It’s true, that all your company secrets are for sale now, your shippers, your receivers the distance between them, the way you dispatch your drivers, the amount of time you spend on the docks, all the information your competitor needs to cut your rate, is now available for purchase, thanks to ELD’s. Brokers are no longer protected by contracts with carriers, since the Broker has no control over the data collected by the ELD, or who your provider sells it to. I warned folks this was coming quite awhile ago, just like I warned folks a trade war was coming before trump was even elected. Funny how that turned out." When we told everybody this was going to happen. People all said that Dave and I were wackadoodles.

Replied on Thu, Jun 06, 2019 at 11:54 AM CST

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ALFRED JORDAN

POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC

PECULIAR, MO

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ALFRED JORDAN

POWERHOUSE TRANSPORTATION, LLC - PECULIAR, MO

Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "It’s true, that all your company secrets are for sale now, your shippers, your receivers the distance between them, the way you dispatch your drivers, the amount of time you spend on the docks, all the information your competitor needs to cut your rate, is now available for purchase, thanks to ELD’s. Brokers are no longer protected by contracts with carriers, since the Broker has no control over the data collected by the ELD, or who your provider sells it to. I warned folks this was coming quite awhile ago, just like I warned folks a trade war was coming before trump was even elected. Funny how that turned out."

When we told everybody this was going to happen. People all said that Dave and I were wackadoodles.

Replied on Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 07:38 AM CST - 1
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 681 Posts, 344 +, 118 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Originally Posted by: ALFRED JORDAN Quote: "When we told everybody this was going to happen. People all said that Dave and I were wackadoodles." Alfred you need to remember they said the same thing about Patton, Tesla and Einstein, to name a few. I understand that one of our biggest critics is now the owner of a amphibious T-600, and decided to become a u-boat captain for the axis.

Replied on Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 07:38 AM CST

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

Originally Posted by: ALFRED JORDAN
Quote: "When we told everybody this was going to happen. People all said that Dave and I were wackadoodles."

Alfred you need to remember they said the same thing about Patton, Tesla and Einstein, to name a few. I understand that one of our biggest critics is now the owner of a amphibious T-600, and decided to become a u-boat captain for the axis.

Replied on Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 03:46 PM CST + 2
ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC Tampa, FL 134 Posts, 3 +, 4 -	ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC - Tampa, FL dave would you explain yourself. your last paragraph raised a few questions that might be humorous.

Replied on Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 06:32 AM CST
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 681 Posts, 344 +, 118 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN It was all humor, you sort of had to be in the loop to get it though.

Replied on Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 06:32 AM CST + 1
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 681 Posts, 344 +, 118 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN For a limited time only, the secret decoder ring can be found in specially marked six packs of round up, available at tinfoil hat suppliers everywhere.

Replied on Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:03 AM CST + 1
DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM Milbank, SD 289 Posts, 179 +, 39 -	DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM - Milbank, SD Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS Quote: "For a limited time only, the secret decoder ring can be found in specially marked six packs of round up, available at tinfoil hat suppliers everywhere. " There's a small correction there Dave. The decoder is only in the 12 pack of roundup pounders. The mistake was made because Monsanto had to fire its good employees to pay for all the frivolous lawsuits

Replied on Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 11:03 AM CST

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DALE HERMANS

HERMANS FARM

Milbank, SD

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DALE HERMANS

HERMANS FARM - Milbank, SD

Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "For a limited time only, the secret decoder ring can be found in specially marked six packs of round up, available at tinfoil hat suppliers everywhere. "

There's a small correction there Dave. The decoder is only in the 12 pack of roundup pounders. The mistake was made because Monsanto had to fire its good employees to pay for all the frivolous lawsuits

Replied on Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 09:37 AM CST
PHILIP WALTER SCHOONOVER FARMS ODESSA , WA 7 Posts, 0 +, 0 -	PHILIP WALTER SCHOONOVER FARMS - ODESSA , WA Explain how my data is for sale

Replied on Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 07:08 AM CST + 1 - 2
JAMES DANA JAMES R DANA Goessel, KS 68 Posts, 1 +, 5 -	JAMES DANA JAMES R DANA - Goessel, KS Originally Posted by: ALFRED JORDAN Quote: "When we told everybody this was going to happen. People all said that Dave and I were wackadoodles." What makes you and Dave think you are not Wackadooles??????????????‍?? Not sure what a Wackadooles looks like???? But I know what they sound like

Replied on Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 08:26 AM CST + 1
DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM Milbank, SD 289 Posts, 179 +, 39 -	DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM - Milbank, SD Originally Posted by: PHILIP WALTER Quote: "Explain how my data is for sale" Facebook and Google and YouTube sell your personal info. I'd give someone my peterbilt if they could provide real evidence that the USDA doesn't sell my acreage data to the board of trade, why would it be hard to believe that eld data could be used for more than just "safety". Obviously I have no proof of that but I find it to be a legitimate possibility

Replied on Tue, Jul 30, 2019 at 08:26 AM CST

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