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Apr 28, 2016 at 02:12 PM CST
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I have a customer who runs hay all over the country to his farm, however he needs carriers with a hay elevator and can unload the hay into his barn. If anyone is interested let me know your rate and I'll see if I can't get you some work. Current load is Dutton,ON to Hollis,NH
Replied on Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 08:02 PM CST
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What kind of farmer needs hay and does not have the elevator themselves?

When I was a kid I was the hay elevator. Tell your customer to go find some good stiff young backs to throw the hay up into the loft for him. Oh I forgot that would involve sweat and very few out there like to sweat anymore unless it is at a fancy gym.

I notice that I am the only one that gave you an answer, why don't you go out and buck that hay up for your customer yourself. I am sure he will pay you .05 per bale to do so.
Replied on Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 09:12 PM CST
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What ever happened to curbside or dockside? Let some young guy buck it up in the guys barn.. We are drivers.. Not slave labors..
Replied on Sat, Apr 30, 2016 at 09:26 PM CST
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Quote: "What ever happened to curbside or dockside? Let some young guy buck it up in the guys barn.. We are drivers.. Not slave labors.. "

Jeff any customer that is wanting hay moved and does not have an elevator to do the work up to the loft. Well one has to wonder about the price that customer wants to pay. If that customer can not figure out where to get that elevator locally, then he is:

A. Too cheap to rent one from a local farmer or implement store
B. Too stupid and does not really know anything about hay in the first place
C. Really smart and thinks we country boys will do it for free

I go with A and B, and this broker goes with C. Well here you are Mr. Broker get your rear end out there and buck that hay for your customer. Here is my bid for the hay run. $6.50 per mile for the truck to haul the hay for your customer, and $5.00 per mile for another truck to haul the elevator to each location. I want that paid in advance, and I want for your customer to pay for the rent of the elevator unit that I will obtain for him. I want your customer to pay for the labor that I am going to hire on his behalf to unload and stack the hay into the loft for him. There you go that is a firm bid, when you are ready just post it here on this forum and i am sure any one of us dumb old cowboys can make that happen at those prices. Remember we want to be paid in advance, no COD on this one.
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 10:42 AM CST
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What in the hell kind of operation is this. Got to be boarding horses. We used to sell ship little squares down to Oklahoma years ago and we wasn't even ask to send a crew to unload them let alone have to bring our own elevator. I think I would have to charge extra for each hay hook to. Wonder how the DOT would like that going down the road with 550 bales on pulling your 40 ft elevator behind your trailer
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 10:50 AM CST
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Quote: "What in the hell kind of operation is this. Got to be boarding horses. We used to sell ship little squares down to Oklahoma years ago and we wasn't even ask to send a crew to unload them let alone have to bring our own elevator. I think I would have to charge extra for each hay hook to. Wonder how the DOT would like that going down the road with 550 bales on pulling your 40 ft elevator behind your trailer"

Thanks for reminding me Mike about the hooks, I think we should throw in the gloves as well on the bid. What do you think, another $200.00 should cover it?
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 10:56 AM CST
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Quote: "Thanks for reminding me Mike about the hooks, I think we should throw in the gloves as well on the bid. What do you think, another $200.00 should cover it?"

You probably better throw in the cost of a couple tires to because some kid will throw his hook down and forget about it and you will run over it
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:17 AM CST
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Sounds llke you have had that happen before.
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:56 AM CST
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Quote: "Sounds llke you have had that happen before."

Yes Sir I finally graduated grade 12 from the school of hard knocks
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 12:56 PM CST
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Quote: "Thanks for reminding me Mike about the hooks, I think we should throw in the gloves as well on the bid. What do you think, another $200.00 should cover it?"

Dont forget about the chaps.. You dont want to wear out your nice levis do you? Looks like about 10,000-15000 a load might do it.. Be easier to get cube or pellets and drop it on the ground ...
You ever notice the cheap loads they want you to do everything.. And the good paying loads they will do it all... WHY IS THAT?
Replied on Sun, May 01, 2016 at 11:29 PM CST
Appreciate all the feedback fellas I got it covered :)
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 04:05 PM CST
While you guys were joking around this guy already got his frieght covered. I bet he put you on the Do Not Use list at TQL so now you are really screwed.....
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 04:41 PM CST
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Quote: "While you guys were joking around this guy already got his frieght covered. I bet he put you on the Do Not Use list at TQL so now you are really screwed....."

Why would that screw me, they are on my do not haul list. Everybody knows this to include them. They know the story and therefor there was never really any chance of him calling me in the first place. Do you not realize that the have their agents post such things over here to get a chuckle out of the things we come up with. Not hauling for them is actually better than hauling for them. We have more time to service other customers without fielding calls from a company that neither wants to work with one another. It is a waste of time for them to call my company and it is a waste of time for me to call theirs. This does not mean that if he actually needed the work done at my prices that another carrier would have taken them up on it. I thought those were more than fair rates for the service that was being requested. Not for me, but for another carrier possibly that may actually have a good relationship with them. Maybe somebody like you, that would have been a good deal for you right? You most likely are not on their do not use list and you must not have them on your do not haul list. That would have been a good load for you.
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 05:08 PM CST
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Quote: "Appreciate all the feedback fellas I got it covered :)"

I guess there is no need to air up the tires on the elevator and hunt up some hay hooks now
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 05:15 PM CST
Quote: "I guess there is no need to air up the tires on the elevator and hunt up some hay hooks now"

Mike, I actually emailed my cousin in Canada a copy of this and he said he would have ran it for the money I stated.
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 05:40 PM CST
Quote: "While you guys were joking around this guy already got his frieght covered. I bet he put you on the Do Not Use list at TQL so now you are really screwed....."

he can put me on the do not use even in a moment of desperation no matter what list.....
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 05:55 PM CST
Quote: "Mike, I actually emailed my cousin in Canada a copy of this and he said he would have ran it for the money I stated."

Well I might have took it but I was going to have to put new tires on the elevator and I can't afford to that so I guess I am out
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 06:54 PM CST
I guess I should have put LOL on the end of my post. Believe me I dont haul for TQL but I doubt that Im on their no call list. Do you ever think maybe they might just post some of that crap just to get a chuckle out of getting you guys stirred up? They cant be serious thinking a guy would bring his own elevator or I dont think they could.
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 07:02 PM CST
Quote: "I guess I should have put LOL on the end of my post. Believe me I dont haul for TQL but I doubt that Im on their no call list. Do you ever think maybe they might just post some of that crap just to get a chuckle out of getting you guys stirred up? They cant be serious thinking a guy would bring his own elevator or I dont think they could."

That's what we were doing. Having fun with them just like they like to do with us. Here is the story that I heard a while back from one of their agents that we still talk. He is one of the good guys over there, he said they send the newbs in here to post something to try and rile us up. So we have just started having fun right back with them. The name of the game is for us to come up with creative cowboy things to make all of us laugh. In a hard environment such as we are all in to include those guys at TQL, sometimes the best way to make it though a day is to have a good laugh. You notice we are all being a tad bit nicer to them when we do this. We actually kind of feel sorry for the newb that got this assignment. He did his job, they got their joke and we all had a good laugh over it. They also got to see a real bid as well, and are most likely now trying to convince some farmer that they can move their hay for those rates. LOL
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 08:46 PM CST
I have some corn to be hauled from Ohio to Nevada,the customer doesn't have any way to put it in his bin,you will need to bring your own 71 foot auger,a 90 hp tractor to run it and a broom to sweep up the spilled corn. I have been hearing $ 1.60 /mi is the going rate. Sorry I just got this covered for $ 1.20. You guys all believe this right????
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 08:49 PM CST
Quote: "I have some corn to be hauled from Ohio to Nevada,the customer doesn't have any way to put it in his bin,you will need to bring your own 71 foot auger,a 90 hp tractor to run it and a broom to sweep up the spilled corn. I have been hearing $ 1.60 /mi is the going rate. Sorry I just got this covered for $ 1.20. You guys all believe this right????"

Dang it Jon, don't tease us like that over here. We have been seeing grain moving for far less than that. $1.20 is a smoking hot rate, so smoing hot that the corn would already have been popped before it got here to Missouri.
Replied on Mon, May 02, 2016 at 11:13 PM CST
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I think we should have a pool, maybe a 5 buck by in and see who is highest on TQL don't call list cause I think I can win and I need that money to put with my Obama wellfare check to buy a bottle of Mad Dog 2020 to ease the pain that they don't like me.

Art Pfluger