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May 06, 2022 at 03:26 PM CST
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I’m new to the hopper World, my question is What products can’t be loaded on top of each other if any. Like we put up corn corn on top of wheat stuff like that or is a washout here for every product.
Replied on Sat, May 07, 2022 at 12:09 PM CST
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Expect pissing away a lot of time and money at washouts. There is getting to be few a far between loads you can get away with a sweep these days.

Some prior products even restict you from loading other products and its even getting so stupid out there you need to provide 3 prior loads to get a load.

Washouts are getting more expensive by the day and fewer of them, so expect some out or route miles and pletty of wait time to get a washout when you get there.

Also keep in mind not all washouts or truck washes are willing to wash out a hopoper trailer.

Replied on Sat, May 07, 2022 at 12:09 PM CST
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It's mostly if you haul feather meal, bone meal or fertilizer, then haul grains to stop the spread of avian bird flu.

Replied on Sat, May 07, 2022 at 08:33 PM CST
Thanks for the info I’m glad you guys got my meaning. I used the speech to text and some of my wording got messed up .
Replied on Tue, May 10, 2022 at 08:40 PM CST
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I hauled soy hull pellets. Then milo for bird seed. Was required to get a wash out. Ridiculous. 50 miles 1 way then $100 for wash 70 miles back to load. Get me once but never again. Used to be the same with open deck tarp everything. That's why we stopped. Kill yourself tarping get to destination and they put the load in 6 inches of mud.
Replied on Wed, May 11, 2022 at 10:03 PM CST

Stay far far away from meat and bone meal if you want to haul grain to feed lots. While I have no personal experience with the follwing method for washouts, I've heard the best washout is tarp open and traps open for 15-20 miles, then a visual inspection before closing it up. If necessary a re-wash or another 10 miles or so open should do the trick. Next go into the truck and pull out your invoice book from Norma Jeans trailer wash in who cares where, and stamp it certified hopper wash, date it and let er ride.... Legal disclaimer... I have no personal experience with this method and it is meant purely as a joke .... Do not try this at home.....Over and OUT!

Replied on Thu, May 12, 2022 at 10:42 AM CST

It's a pain in the back side looking for washouts. A lot of places we go need prior load and a valid washout receipt. Blue Beacons wont washout! Yes sometimes you'll have to travel up to 50-100 miles to a washout and 50-100 back to load. I doesnt make sence sometimes but its at the costumers request. Some will inspect your trailer. If you ask the broker sometimes they'll give a $50 reimbursment for a washout if you turn in a copy of the washout receipt. NORAG (Northern Ag Service) is good about trying to get the costumer to do that. We've hauled almost anything you can put in a hopper. Fertilizer, coal, all grains, apples, meat and bone meal, and other meals, hulls, etc. Never had a load turned away because of our previous.

Off topic, I do want to share that if you're trying find the extra money for a washout, we use an app called Mudflap. It has a list of mostly Mom and Pop truck stops where you can get anywhere from $0.12 up to $0.45 off a gallon. It adds up. They're growing the list of places that uses their program.

Replied on Thu, May 12, 2022 at 02:59 PM CST
Pneumatic here. I ran some loads for a shipper. I was being paid to come back empty. I was moving the exact same product to the exact same silo. I had to have a washout after every load and the shipper would keep my washout receipt. Going out the way to get a washout was a time killer.
Replied on Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:24 AM CST
Livestock washouts are great for self serve washouts fyi .....recycled cow shit water at some of them are better than food grade calcium as long as you can get the paper receipt 🙄🙄🤦‍♀️
Replied on Fri, May 13, 2022 at 08:26 AM CST
Any time you go to a self serve washout grab a few extra receipts for later and throw a few extra bucks in the money drop for them......All these pencil pushers are looking for is a paper trail....The Minot ND Streaking Beacon is the ONLY Beacon that will washout a hopper.... As for mUdFlAp, I get better discounts with my Fleet One card at Mom and Pop truck stops than MuDfLaP can touch, Mom and Pop Tuck Stops are 9 times outta 10 AmBest Truck Stops....plus Fleet One gives me a weeks worth of credit where mUdFlAp comes DIRECTLY out of your bank account
Replied on Mon, May 16, 2022 at 09:49 AM CST
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Anytime you think a washout is expensive, try paying for a "contaminated load". It doesn't matter if it is contaminated or not. They don't care. You get to pay for the load, disposal of the load, and all costs with the load. Washouts are cheap.
Replied on Tue, May 17, 2022 at 04:40 PM CST
Quote: "Any time you go to a self serve washout grab a few extra receipts for later and throw a few extra bucks in the money drop for them......All these pencil pushers are looking for is a paper trail....The Minot ND Streaking Beacon is the ONLY Beacon that will washout a hopper.... As for mUdFlAp, I get better discounts with my Fleet One card at Mom and Pop truck stops than MuDfLaP can touch, Mom and Pop Tuck Stops are 9 times outta 10 AmBest Truck Stops....plus Fleet One gives me a weeks worth of credit where mUdFlAp comes DIRECTLY out of your bank account"

Hey Josh, it's off topic but I think mudflap deserves more credit here. Your understanding of it isn't exactly how it works. It definitely has it's annoyances, but I'm 2 years in and really like it. In your area, western Dakota's and Montana and Wyoming, mudflap is pretty much useless. Anywhere else, it's comparable to any other fuel card out there. I left new Orleans with another truck this winter, we compared his fleet one to my mudflap as we went north all the way to northern Minnesota. Mudflap had some better, some less discounts. And if you register a credit card (especially one that gets you cash back) you get the credit you are looking for and 2 percent cash back on Biden $$ fuel is a significant discount on its own. They have good tech support as well and in a time where nobody seems to care anymore, I figured they deserve a compliment. Good luck and before I forget, there's also a great washout in Stanley ND, if you don't want to go as far east as Minot!
Replied on Wed, May 18, 2022 at 08:03 AM CST
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Quote: "Anytime you think a washout is expensive, try paying for a "contaminated load". It doesn't matter if it is contaminated or not. They don't care. You get to pay for the load, disposal of the load, and all costs with the load. Washouts are cheap."

It's part of doing business but you need to be compensated for your time and expense.
Replied on Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 07:31 AM CST
I would add in that almost always you can wash it out yourself at a outside bay at car wash or a house anywhere. That is all they do for 50 bucks or more at a washout. Cattle washout usually charge a bit more. You just fill out the form they give you when loading saying you washed it yourself.
Replied on Thu, Jun 02, 2022 at 07:31 AM CST
Most things do not need washed out. I haul slot of loads that require it but even not all of them check. Just make sure it is swept nice and clean. Meat and bone meal will need washed out before hauling most anything else. Even some rewuires a washout before loading it. Don't know why, just some places are picky. Grain loads after sand frequently want washed. You will learn that even though ratecon says wash it does not mean you need to. Some places you will find just do not ask at load or unload. Hauling organic grain, that is the money grain! , always needs a wash unless prior load was organic.
Replied on Sat, Jun 11, 2022 at 10:04 AM CST
When you get the load just ask the broker or shipper.