How to price liquid tanker loads

Jan 18, 2017 at 01:33 PM CST + 10 - 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I'm getting requests for liquid tanker loads from CA to NJ, but I have no idea what the going rate is or should be. I'm a dryvan and flatbed broker for Landstar and I've always declined any opportunities for tanker freight because I rarely get requests for it. Today I had a regular dryvan customer ask for a price to haul 44k# of non-haz, liquid, ISO, Kosher washed tank from CA to NY (near Syracuse, not on the island). I have no idea what rate I should be offering a carrier for this, although I'd say I'm an expert on van and flabed freight. I appreciate any guidance you can provide. -PW

Replied on Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 01:52 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Whats the product?

Replied on Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 01:55 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Octadecanol (liquid alcohol) (CO-1898 L STEARYL ALCOHOL, NF)

Replied on Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 09:06 PM CST - 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Being its a food grade kosher and getting tanks washed in California are on the high side, if I had availability I would be about $2.20 per mile plus fuel plus $325.00 for the wash data starting point

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 08:16 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Since it's an ISO, wouldn't he run it on the rail from CA to Chicago and then either x-town it to CSX and have it delivered locally or run it on truck from Chicago to N.Y.? I would think the rail would be cheaper then trucking it all the way since it is an ISO tank.

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 08:18 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. That's usually a bulkhaul type load, so the tasks are already washed and prepped. Who owns the ISO tank?

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 11:03 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I didn't see where he said ISO container...but yes it would be already done...though in the past we have unloaded iso containers in our tankers and and took it cross country just to load it in another iso container or railcar...lol

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 01:14 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Thanks for the ideas gentlemen. I'll see if we can rail it cross country. I also appreciate the guidance on the rates.

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 04:37 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Thanks for the ideas gentlemen. I'll see if we can rail it cross country. I also appreciate the guidance on the rates." I'll give you a rough idea of ISO rates. I'm not exactly sure, but I believe rail rates are in the .60-.70 mile. If your going to move all the way across on rail, you'll need to have someone pick it up in Chicago and transfer it from bnsf/UP to CSX/NS depending on who your using. That rate is roughly $300. You'll also need someone in NY to deliver it. I'm not exactly sure what rates are in NY, but I would guess for a local move it'll be in the $500-$700 range plus any accessory pay or detention. For ISO tanks, detention at the rail starts after I hour and on delivery it's 2 hours free. If you just rail it to Chicago and truck it from there, my guess would be in the $2.00/ mile range round trip miles. ISO tanks are usually billed round trip because the dirty tank needs to be brought back to someone to be cleaned. Hope this helps, just wanted to give you some food for thought.

Replied on Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 04:37 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Thanks for the ideas gentlemen. I'll see if we can rail it cross country. I also appreciate the guidance on the rates."

I'll give you a rough idea of ISO rates. I'm not exactly sure, but I believe rail rates are in the .60-.70 mile. If your going to move all the way across on rail, you'll need to have someone pick it up in Chicago and transfer it from bnsf/UP to CSX/NS depending on who your using. That rate is roughly $300. You'll also need someone in NY to deliver it. I'm not exactly sure what rates are in NY, but I would guess for a local move it'll be in the $500-$700 range plus any accessory pay or detention. For ISO tanks, detention at the rail starts after I hour and on delivery it's 2 hours free. If you just rail it to Chicago and truck it from there, my guess would be in the $2.00/ mile range round trip miles. ISO tanks are usually billed round trip because the dirty tank needs to be brought back to someone to be cleaned.

Hope this helps, just wanted to give you some food for thought.

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 06:54 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have tankers and looking for work. If you have anything please call me at 407-283-8401, thanks.

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 09:27 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Being its a food grade kosher and getting tanks washed in California are on the high side, if I had availability I would be about $2.20 per mile plus fuel plus $325.00 for the wash data starting point" I'm sorry, but that number totally ridiculous.

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 09:27 AM CST + 3
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "That's usually a bulkhaul type load, so the tasks are already washed and prepped. Who owns the ISO tank?" As your rich Uncle Joe would say, "COME ON MAN" there is no such thing as a back haul. We don't have back haul expenses. If someone actually offered me a load of rubber dogshit for $2.20 a mile, I'd leave it there..

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 09:40 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Barry, you are right as rain Steve

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 11:34 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hey Barry Maybe he has 2 of them...Meet you out there...

Replied on Fri, Nov 11, 2022 at 01:41 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. $2.00 per mile... The price if fuel is $5+. I wouldn't pull my grandmothers frying pan off the stove for $2.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 08:36 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Being its a food grade kosher and getting tanks washed in California are on the high side, if I had availability I would be about $2.20 per mile plus fuel plus $325.00 for the wash data starting point" And this is why the rates are dropping you are running way toway to cheap

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2022 at 10:16 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "And this is why the rates are dropping you are running way toway to cheap" You realize that post is almost six years old. Before ELD. Before Covid-19.