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Apr 12, 2016 at 10:18 AM CST
We have some south african farm workers that are here helping us. They will be hauling soybeans for us into minnesota and will be beyond the 150 mile radius of our home base. We have our trucks prorated and have authority to run into other states. Im wondering if anyone knows do international CDL's work or do we need to get them South Dakota CDL's? the agency and insurance company we work through wont say either way and the local law enforcement is giving me the run around. I appreciate any help thank you
Replied on Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 01:04 PM CST
I would hope you talked to your insurance company first to see if they would cover them. It is overly expensive to have hired drivers who are not foreigners. Especially if you can't have them prove their driving experience. Plus you will need worker's comp if you don't already have it. Just a thought if you haven't already thought of it. I don't know how to go about them getting a cdl.
Replied on Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 01:17 PM CST
I had two south African drivers a couple years ago my insurance company said they had to have Iowa cdl plus verify driving experience lucky they worked on harvest crew in Kansas two years
Replied on Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 10:41 PM CST
Replied on Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:04 AM CST
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Why don't you just hire a US citizen instead of a foreigner? Then there's no problem at all.
Replied on Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:12 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: BILL WRIGHT
Quote: "Why don't you just hire a US citizen instead of a foreigner? Then there's no problem at all."

I was thinking the same thing Bill. But then everyone wont be able to get on this forum and gripe and complain about how so and so is cutting rates because he hires illegals or people on visas to get work done cheaper, so we would lose our entertainment. Pay a US Citizen a fair wage for a days work and you wont have trouble filling the seat. But Visa Labor is cheaper and if they dont like it, ship em home. The guy hiring them has them by the balls.
Replied on Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 09:57 AM CST
The International license is only good for a short time and not if they are working and being compensated. Years ago you could run them if they had a truck license in their home country and an international license, not now. You should get them a SD CDL and SD does have a non-domiciled policy so it is not a problem to get it. It will be tied to their visa, so at the end of the visa date they will get a letter stating it is suspended with the visa. If they return withing the date the license is good for it can be reinstated without testing again.

Contrary to some opinion, foreign farm labor programs are not cheap labor if abiding by program policy. And if not abiding, audits are up and can be very expensive. The 2015 AEWR (Adverse Effect Wage Rate) for SD was $13.59 an hour with a set two week minimum wage (not sure what that was) so you are supposed to keep hours and pay the higher of the two for the period along with jumping through a lot more hoops. It also stipulates any Americans are paid the same. In Minnesota they threw in time and a half over 48 hours which Farm Bureau is fighting.

If you don't have all your bases covered, in the event of a wreck even if it is not your trucks fault, it can quickly become your fault if not properly licensed. Basically they go with you never should have been there so it would not have happened. They way things are today it's not worth the risk.
Replied on Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 10:35 AM CST
Maybe the guys from South Africa are harder workers than the Americans. It is getting harder and harder to find Americans that take pride in the craftmanship and work. I don't think the guy is doing it for cheaper labor as much as he has found that the dutch from South Africa work harder and give a man a good days work for a good days pay.

If he is just going for the cheaper labor well shame on him. I have tried to give those in our country a good wage for a good days pay, the problem is most of these people here don't know how to work a full day anymore. That is the difference from having a government and society that trains you from early on that you are entitled to money from others while having to do very little work.

I myself start work everyday at 06:30 and don't stop until about 22:00. I am the lowest paid person in my company and I am the owner. Imagine how I feel when an operator seems to think I have all the money in the world to pay them for doing nothing but sitting around and idling the truck. Who's fault is it when the operator keeps refusing loads? It is theirs, eventually you have to let that person go. I see about an eight month to twelve month life cycle on these operators, this seems to be the norm in our industry. The trucks are loyal to me but the operators on the other hand are not. Heck they are not even loyal to themselves.

Without knowing which reason this gentleman is hiring drivers from South Africa, I reserve the right to believe he is just looking for good hands for his farm and trucks. At least these South Africans are trying to be productive members by working on the farm, they are not like those that are just coming here for the freebee.

If we as a nation would stop supporting those that don't want to work, we may actually find that individuals would get jobs and produce instead of leecihing on the rest of us that pay taxes. I think is is sad when my Dad who is 71 is getting $16,000 per year in Social Security after paying into it for years, and a 29 year old able bodied individual is getting $24,000 per year in welfare benefits plus housing. Why work a job when you are basically making $12.00 per hour sitting in a home that somebody else subsidizes for you?