Newbie has questions on hauling DDG's.......

Nov 26, 2016 at 01:29 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hi, new to the forum......we have the oppertunity to haul DDG's in our bulk grain hoppers but would like some comments or advice on what works best for hauling these loads.....we have Wilson high sided triple axle Pacesetter trailers with the Ag hoppers. We do not have vibrators on our trailers at this time. We will be pulling out of area Ethanol plants here in the middle of Nebraska...... Appreciate any help you can give us........marcus

Replied on Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 02:25 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Run???????????????????????????? As fast as you can. Not to bad during winter. Vibrator a must! Do not turn on till you get them started falling out of hopper.

Replied on Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 12:29 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. If you got Ag hoppers I wouldn't put DDGs in them ever

Replied on Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 01:18 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Try using some Cooking Oil Spray on the bottom half of the hoppers before loading them you can also keep your hoppers slicked up by having them spray a wax in them each time you get washed out and this tends to keep the hoppers slicked up to help a little. You could Rig up anAir Hose that hooks up to the Glad Hands with a long wand with holes in it to help with starting the product to unload. Just some suggestions to help you out a bit.

Replied on Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 01:18 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Try using some Cooking Oil Spray on the bottom half of the hoppers before loading them you can also keep your hoppers slicked up by having them spray a wax in them each time you get washed out and this tends to keep the hoppers slicked up to help a little. You could Rig up anAir Hose that hooks up to the Glad Hands with a long wand with holes in it to help with starting the product to unload. Just some suggestions to help you out a bit.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:14 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Vibrators are a must! Don't load your first load untill you have them. winter time is a little easier for them since ddgs stick in hotter weather. 2nd tip, load and unload same day. Plan your rough time so you don't leave them in overnight. trust me the faster you can off load the better you will be. 3rd tip, it's work getting loads unstuck get paid for it. good luck!

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:14 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Vibrators are a must! Don't load your first load untill you have them. winter time is a little easier for them since ddgs stick in hotter weather. 2nd tip, load and unload same day. Plan your rough time so you don't leave them in overnight. trust me the faster you can off load the better you will be. 3rd tip, it's work getting loads unstuck get paid for it. good luck!

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 07:43 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Thanks guys....appreciate the help. No wonder there are loads available anytime almost.........sounds like a tough haul.........other options may be in order......thanks again.......Marcus

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:41 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've done golden DDG in hoppers but they were the Cornhuskers with aggregate style doors and vibrators. Unloaded easy. Since the golden went away in South Texas and all that was being unloaded here was the pelleted DDG by ADM I refused to haul it in a hopper. If i haul pelleted DDG its in a belt. Always unloads with out any issues even when left in trailer overnight. Sadly ADM bunged up the DDG market here and now they currently don't bring it in by rail.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 08:41 AM CST

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I've done golden DDG in hoppers but they were the Cornhuskers with aggregate style doors and vibrators. Unloaded easy. Since the golden went away in South Texas and all that was being unloaded here was the pelleted DDG by ADM I refused to haul it in a hopper. If i haul pelleted DDG its in a belt. Always unloads with out any issues even when left in trailer overnight. Sadly ADM bunged up the DDG market here and now they currently don't bring it in by rail.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:51 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I hauled my first load of DDG in a 50x96x72 Wilson with ag hoppers. Truth be told I didn't think it was all that bad I was on the pit for about an hour or so once it started moving it wasn't all that bad to keep moving. It came off easier than a load of hominey I hauled out of Lincoln down to cimmaron in a 43x102x78 with commodity hoppers and vibrators. If you can get a decent rate on it I wouldn't be afraid to tackle it with ag hoppers. But to each their own it is more work getting it moving and keeping it moving because of the lower slope angles but I've done it before and would do it again if I had to. Just my .02.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:51 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I hauled my first load of DDG in a 50x96x72 Wilson with ag hoppers. Truth be told I didn't think it was all that bad I was on the pit for about an hour or so once it started moving it wasn't all that bad to keep moving.

It came off easier than a load of hominey I hauled out of Lincoln down to cimmaron in a 43x102x78 with commodity hoppers and vibrators. If you can get a decent rate on it I wouldn't be afraid to tackle it with ag hoppers. But to each their own it is more work getting it moving and keeping it moving because of the lower slope angles but I've done it before and would do it again if I had to. Just my .02.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 01:56 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've hauled several loads and a majority of the time don't have any issues. Give me a call, I'd be glad to help if I can 785-200-0587.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:12 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It also depends on the facility, each one is different. I've had some come out like soybean meal and some you fought the whole load. You could see the difference in how fine they where ground, even the feed mill could tell a difference when they were loading the feed out.

Replied on Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 02:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Timpte 43'x102"x78" with supertraps. Trap door openings are 34"x54". Two vibrators per hopper. Less than 15 minutes on the pit and I've never climbed on or in the trlr. Most importantly: Keep your trailer clean! If you're going to haul DDGs frequently, you need the right equipment or you'll hate it!

Replied on Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 10:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We wash and then wax our hopper with Carnauba wax. Makes life a lot easier!

Replied on Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 01:40 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. How often do you wax it?

Replied on Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I have been hauling DDG for about 3yrs only had an issue once I will admit i only haul it 40 miles load early in the mourning and like everyone else says get it off asap Have good luck using a rubber mallet and hitting the hopper rails to get things moving seems to work well

Replied on Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:43 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I've had a few loads that gave me the blues.... I'll say this... and thile I'm not advertising for them... invest in a vibrator from SHAKE-IT.com... that vibrator makes a fool of any load.... I've seen troublesome loads come right out after attaching this vibrator to the hopper... While there are some cheaper vibrators that work, I haven't seen any that truly work like this one because you can move it around to the troublesome spot on the hopper. Just my .02... especially if you'll be hauliing alot of DDG.

Replied on Thu, Dec 01, 2016 at 07:43 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

I've had a few loads that gave me the blues.... I'll say this... and thile I'm not advertising for them... invest in a vibrator from SHAKE-IT.com... that vibrator makes a fool of any load.... I've seen troublesome loads come right out after attaching this vibrator to the hopper... While there are some cheaper vibrators that work, I haven't seen any that truly work like this one because you can move it around to the troublesome spot on the hopper. Just my .02... especially if you'll be hauliing alot of DDG.

Replied on Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:34 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. basically what everyone has said is on point, even the guy that says run lol. A vibrator is a must & big doors do help. My favorite tool of choice is an air wand. My trailer is set up with an air hookup on the drivers side in between the tubs. a 50 foot RUBBER air hose is the best, not a plastic one. its also helpful if you adjust your air govenor cut-in pressure so you can build between 130-140psi. and it will cut in and start building air around 110psi instead of 90. It won't hurt a thing & you can air up tires easier this way. Hope this helps. Sam

Replied on Fri, Dec 02, 2016 at 08:34 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

basically what everyone has said is on point, even the guy that says run lol. A vibrator is a must & big doors do help. My favorite tool of choice is an air wand. My trailer is set up with an air hookup on the drivers side in between the tubs. a 50 foot RUBBER air hose is the best, not a plastic one. its also helpful if you adjust your air govenor cut-in pressure so you can build between 130-140psi. and it will cut in and start building air around 110psi instead of 90. It won't hurt a thing & you can air up tires easier this way. Hope this helps.

Sam

Replied on Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 11:41 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I worked at an ethanol plant and loaded trucks there. When we loaded trucks with DDGs by loader we always tried to fluff the pile before putting it into the trailers. Ask the loader operator to do this and your load will slide out pretty good. In the summer, vibrators are handy becuase humidity makes them stick at times.

Replied on Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 05:02 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. .....you guys are great....thanks much! Shedrick its funny you posted that and helpful I had one of those on order already and am waiting for it to show up......thanks! Looking at doing a trade for a Commodity trailer for one of our Ag hoppers.......working on a deal now......we will see. The trailer I am looking at has the vibrators already on it and 32 X 43 dumps.......it is 78" tall.........Wilson made with aluminum undercarrage and pin.........

Replied on Sat, Dec 03, 2016 at 05:02 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

.....you guys are great....thanks much! Shedrick its funny you posted that and helpful I had one of those on order already and am waiting for it to show up......thanks! Looking at doing a trade for a Commodity trailer for one of our Ag hoppers.......working on a deal now......we will see. The trailer I am looking at has the vibrators already on it and 32 X 43 dumps.......it is 78" tall.........Wilson made with aluminum undercarrage and pin.........

Replied on Sun, Dec 04, 2016 at 02:11 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Bad idea with small doors and no vibrators

Replied on Tue, Dec 06, 2016 at 09:09 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I'm sitting at Fairmont waiting to load ddg as I read this.. This time of year is good. Sticky in the heat. Being loaded with loader compact more. Put a knotted rope in your trailer if you need to climb in. Slid to the bottom once, good thing I am tall and my tarp straps held as I got to the middle bow to pull myself out..

Replied on Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 07:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I haul DDG's a lot in the winter with ag hoppers and no vibrators but I always load out of Fairmont. Never have to much trouble getting them to slide out. Summer time however is a different story.

Replied on Fri, Dec 30, 2016 at 07:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. ....To finish the story, we traded one of our ag hoppers off on a nice 2011 Wilson Commodity trailer with a tag axle.......It works great! Has the big traps and high sides and factory vibrators....... Thanks again to all for the advice........we now fear no DDG's......