People are getting desperate.

CLINT,
THE TRUCKS HAULING THESE LOADS, DID YOU NOTICE IF THEY ARE RUNNING FARM TAGS OR K TAGS FOR HIRE?
HERE AT HOME THE FARMERS RUNNING FARM TAGS AND HAULING COMMERCAL IS KILLING THE HOPPER RATES, BUT THE POLITICS BETWEEN THE LEGISLATURES AND THE BIG ELEVATORS AND FARMERS MAKES THE LAWS PROHIBITING IT -MUTE.

If you know a farmer is hauling for hire without tags , insurance or MC/DOT #s document everything you can even take pictures if you can. Turn them in to the corporation
commission of that state. A farmer hauling for hire is theft . Same as if I went to a farm loaded grain and took it to town and sold it. There is no difference between someone
stealing the service I provide or someone stealing the product a farmer provides. Turn there asses in!!!!!

Well most of your shippers know what it cost to run a truck. Good Lord, they run multi-million dollar facilities. It is the truckers themselves that have very few clues. I have stated the answers with profit margins, how to arrive at the elusive rate per mile that everybody thinks is magic. Hell I even created an app for them to use, noooooo you can lead a horse to water but you just can't force it to drink.

JASON,
THEY MAY NOT KNOW OR CARE WHAT IT COST TO SHIP THEIR PRODUCTS, BUT THEY KNOW (ENOUGHT) THAT THEY DON'T WANT TO RUN THEIR OWN TRUCKS. THAT IS AN EXPENSE, PROBLEMS, AND LIABILITY FAR AND ABOVE ANYTHINK THEY WANT FOR THEMSELVES. I CAN'T TELL YOU THE NUBER OF TIMES I'VE BEEN TOLD "WE USED TO RUN ARE OWN TRUCKS BUT GOT OUT RID OF THEM"

Most shippers know what it takes to run a truck. Don't let them get by with the dumb and dumber act. If they honestly don't know then you need to be worried about their check staying good. Anybody with the exception of us truckers and farmers usually run projections on profits on a regular basis. When I was the shipper I knew every penny it took to run my business. I had my own trucks as well, the only reason MS Carriers got the bid was they beat my cost by .10 per mile and they reduced my exposure as well. I did not take the cheapest bid (that was JB Hunt). I choose MS Carriers because the majority of their fleet were owner operator. I had gotton tired of the previous company and their company drivers being late. My parent company was pissed at first that I did not recontract with the cheapest guy. I reminded them that I could run my frachise my way in that aspect. My profit margins went up because of the better service. I no longer was refunding my customers for late deliveries. That location was only making $3000.00 per month profit when I bought it. Within 6 months I had it making $30,000 per month profit. The biggest reason was dumping the cheap ass unreliable carrier that seemed to not give a damn about me the customer. You know the ild expression you get what you pay for, well it is true.
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I'm seeing this here in Ohio, as well fellows. The big companys are buying up the smaller elevators, and put their own leased trucks and trailers, with slave drivers, instead of owner operators. Herman

Glenn,
I see you are from Fremont, NE. Load just posted---AR. to NE---714 miles---$45.00/ton---50000# load---(WASHOUT REG)---=$1.48/mile loaded---bounce would vary.
How many of your neighbers are going to take that load to get home? My bounce is 8 miles to get the load and I won't even give it a consideration, I'm upset that the broker would post the load with that (posted rate)--Why would he post it?--Because someone is going to haul it for him, ice, snow, washout doesen't matter someone running will pull that load. Could you tell me what loads are paying coming south that allows someone to haul for $1.48 less bounce to get back to get another one?

"Welcome " to broke loads .com, I'm sure you could get down to 80 cents if you looked hard enough...