Possible Opportunity

Jan 25, 2016 at 01:37 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hello Years ago we started a small bulk packaging company, filling 50# bags and bulk super sacks. Our foot in the door was accually our location, situated in East Tennessee we seen a need for servicing underground coal mines with Mine Saftey Dust (rock dust) this is MSHA required and coal mines use lots of this material to keep the volatility of the mine down, also somewhat serves as a white wash in a dark mine. Anyways, for years we packed the hound out of it, blowing the dust in our silos, augering it to the packer, putting it on pallets and loading flatbeds for deliveries to the mines. Well, those days are over, coal is down big time. For the life of me, i have laid in bed many nights trying to put something together in my head to keep my men working. So, this is were all you bulk tanker drivers might be able to help. I need thought or ideas on a new product to get hauled into the knoxville area, blown in our silos and that could be packed out in Super bags or 50's. If it goes in a tanker (pneumatic), we can run it. What our materials are you men hauling up and down the highway that needs to be packaged. any ideas would help. Thank you for your time and stay safe Matthew

Replied on Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 02:24 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We have pnuematics will that work. We are in ND can we set someup up here? 701-500-9854

Replied on Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 04:45 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. We are a pneumatic company with teminals in Cloverdale, IN. Louisville, KY. Nashville, TN. Birmingham, Al. If there's something we can help out on be glad to answer any questions.

Replied on Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 04:46 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. You can email me at [email protected] or call 765-301-4039

Replied on Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:07 PM CST + 6
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Mr. Daniels, First of all I would like to thank you for your post. It is very uplifting in todays market to see someone that is not crying in there beer and doing something about the situation. As for the other posts after yours. My first thought was Bottom Feeders. But, then I thought. They just did not read your post for what it is. I will keep you in mind and should an idea come up that would be of benifit. You will be the one that I will call. Thank You Sir.

Replied on Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 12:07 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Mr. Daniels, First of all I would like to thank you for your post. It is very uplifting in todays market to see someone that is not crying in there beer and doing something about the situation.

As for the other posts after yours. My first thought was Bottom Feeders. But, then I thought. They just did not read your post for what it is.

I will keep you in mind and should an idea come up that would be of benifit. You will be the one that I will call.

Thank You Sir.

Replied on Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Maybe lime, I now a lot comes out of TN.

Replied on Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 07:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. ever think about bagging sand or small stones or cement for local hardware stores if the mom and pops store are still around in ure area or mulch stuff like that think outside the box

Replied on Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:22 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Thank you as well. Some of the others that replied, mentioned gravels, sand, lime, and mulch. Those are pretty tough markets, to get into. Not that i'm not up for the challenge, its that in my situation, sand is out of the question, seeing how i rely on the local sand company to pick up the materials i do pack on a back haul, they have so many trucks, going so many places, i couldnt get a better price with my own trucks. Over the last several years, we have ran into situations, were our trucker's have found us business, just by word of mouth, ie. a couple of weeks ago, the sand company had a back haul, out of Etowah, TN for a direct ship (not coming to a packing company) however, that load was rejected after they (the end user) took a small sample. The driver mentiones to the shipper, that he knows a company that could put it in Super Sacks (us), if they could find a home for the rejected material that way. Sure enough, they bit on it, and let us load it in 3,000 lb supers. The has turned into a semi regular thing now, so i am assuming they had a market for the material in supers in the first place. Could there be a market, for packing rejected material? I know in our area, many large manufactures that either create a Bulk bi-product that is shipped out on rail, tank, or sometimes have there own packing plant to send out there bi-produce to another market. Most of them are union, i know i could do it much cheaper, even with the freight difference. So, i'm going to continue beating the bushes. I know there is something out there for us, just have to get in the loop. I am working on a tank washout, that would help with some extra income, thousands of tanks drive right by my plant every day, not being far from the 75/40 split. Thanks for all the input men. Stay safe. Matthew

Replied on Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:22 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Thank you as well.
Some of the others that replied, mentioned gravels, sand, lime, and mulch. Those are pretty tough markets, to get into. Not that i'm not up for the challenge, its that in my situation, sand is out of the question, seeing how i rely on the local sand company to pick up the materials i do pack on a back haul, they have so many trucks, going so many places, i couldnt get a better price with my own trucks. Over the last several years, we have ran into situations, were our trucker's have found us business, just by word of mouth, ie. a couple of weeks ago, the sand company had a back haul, out of Etowah, TN for a direct ship (not coming to a packing company) however, that load was rejected after they (the end user) took a small sample. The driver mentiones to the shipper, that he knows a company that could put it in Super Sacks (us), if they could find a home for the rejected material that way. Sure enough, they bit on it, and let us load it in 3,000 lb supers. The has turned into a semi regular thing now, so i am assuming they had a market for the material in supers in the first place. Could there be a market, for packing rejected material? I know in our area, many large manufactures that either create a Bulk bi-product that is shipped out on rail, tank, or sometimes have there own packing plant to send out there bi-produce to another market. Most of them are union, i know i could do it much cheaper, even with the freight difference. So, i'm going to continue beating the bushes. I know there is something out there for us, just have to get in the loop. I am working on a tank washout, that would help with some extra income, thousands of tanks drive right by my plant every day, not being far from the 75/40 split. Thanks for all the input men. Stay safe.
Matthew

Replied on Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 07:38 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Depends on how fine your mill can grind the lime. If you want some ideas call me at 765-301-4039 or email me at [email protected]

Replied on Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 02:43 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. It been some years ago , but I used to haul straw pellets from western ohio. They would bag , pallet & ship to farm stores from ind. To pa. I hauled them both ways bulk in ,, van out. They are used for animal bedding , super absorbent and easy to shovel. The product came from archibald, ohio I forget the name....just a thought-

Replied on Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 08:29 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Wow... that is a beautiful idea. Equestrian folks, spend good money on there animals. It has been right in front of me the whole time.. literally. . That is thinking outside the box, from my everyday. But the same concepts apply. Thank you sir. Very much worth delving into deeper. It really wouldn't have to stop there. Im sure the pellet equipment would work for lots of different agricultural products. Pellet and package, with the season. Whatever was in abundance and cheap. If you had the capital to warehouse it and sit on till it found a home. Endless really. Hell, we could be getting goverment pelletized meal vouchers in return for our souls someday. Just add water.. kidding. Hopefully.. this has been great to get some different ideas. Thank you men... Matthew

Replied on Thu, Jan 28, 2016 at 08:29 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Wow... that is a beautiful idea. Equestrian folks, spend good money on there animals. It has been right in front of me the whole time.. literally. . That is thinking outside the box, from my everyday. But the same concepts apply. Thank you sir. Very much worth delving into deeper. It really wouldn't have to stop there. Im sure the pellet equipment would work for lots of different agricultural products. Pellet and package, with the season. Whatever was in abundance and cheap. If you had the capital to warehouse it and sit on till it found a home. Endless really. Hell, we could be getting goverment pelletized meal vouchers in return for our souls someday. Just add water.. kidding. Hopefully.. this has been great to get some different ideas. Thank you men...
Matthew

Replied on Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:35 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. One idea may be flyash and cement mixture for oil and gas market in the midcon area. I know that oil and gas prices are down significantly and drilling in most parts is almost at a standstill. With that said, when the business is good, the oil companies take a flyash-cement mixture in supersacks to the wellsites and there they mix in with the cuttings before going to a waste disposal site. Several companies in the Bakken region of North Dakota were doing this business.

Replied on Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 11:35 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

One idea may be flyash and cement mixture for oil and gas market in the midcon area. I know that oil and gas prices are down significantly and drilling in most parts is almost at a standstill. With that said, when the business is good, the oil companies take a flyash-cement mixture in supersacks to the wellsites and there they mix in with the cuttings before going to a waste disposal site. Several companies in the Bakken region of North Dakota were doing this business.

Replied on Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 03:27 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Hi, I would check with Cargill, Inc. I believe they are in every state in the U.S. They have hundreds of product lines from salt to making use of by-products for cattle. They are a fantastic company to work for and do business with.