Should fmcsa officials hold a CDL?

Aug 13, 2019 at 09:52 PM CST + 6 - 1
ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC MORRISTOWN, AZ 604 Posts, 3 +, 2 -	ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ Ok i borrowed the title from elsewhere, but i think it is time for a solid change in the way our government handles the rules. While I'm not very satisfied with the things OOIDA does, I'm not seeing another viable entity to represent any of us. Suggestions appreciated. It is my understanding that the governing of pilots has pilots on the panel. It has never made sense to me that no one governing our daily lives has any idea of what we do. Not in the day to day life. Also our experiences differ from region and type of freight. The megas have ATA. The rest of us have almost no representation. In a perfect world i would like a group that represents, say, livestock haulers and ag based bulk haulers. That said i don't really have an idea how to initiate change. Having people in fmcsa/DOT that have been an owner and or driver seems to me something that should be a priority Art Pfluger

Aug 13, 2019 at 09:52 PM CST

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ROSE PFLUGER

ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC

MORRISTOWN, AZ

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ROSE PFLUGER

ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ

Ok i borrowed the title from elsewhere, but i think it is time for a solid change in the way our government handles the rules. While I'm not very satisfied with the things OOIDA does, I'm not seeing another viable entity to represent any of us. Suggestions appreciated.
It is my understanding that the governing of pilots has pilots on the panel. It has never made sense to me that no one governing our daily lives has any idea of what we do. Not in the day to day life. Also our experiences differ from region and type of freight. The megas have ATA. The rest of us have almost no representation. In a perfect world i would like a group that represents, say, livestock haulers and ag based bulk haulers. That said i don't really have an idea how to initiate change.
Having people in fmcsa/DOT that have been an owner and or driver seems to me something that should be a priority

Art Pfluger

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:58 AM CST + 1
ARCOLA LASHLEY JR ORGANIC FARM RESOURCES Winnsboro, LA 1 Posts, 0 +, 0 -	ARCOLA LASHLEY JR ORGANIC FARM RESOURCES - Winnsboro, LA I AM SURE EVERY DOT SHOULD HAVE A CDL AND PREFER TO HAVE SOME DRIVING EXPERINCE. ONE OF MY TRUCKS GOT DOT'D IN OK AND THE YOUNG MAN HAD HIS BOOK WITH HIM TO CHECK MY TRUCK. THE DRIVER HAD TO ADVISE HIM WHERE TO LOOK FOR SOME OF THE ITEMS AND THEN HE WENT BEYOND A NORMAL INSPECTION. IF YOU CANT DRIVE A TRUCK YOU HAVE NO TRUE SENSE OF HOW TO INSPECT ONE.

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 08:58 AM CST

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ARCOLA LASHLEY JR

ORGANIC FARM RESOURCES

Winnsboro, LA

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ARCOLA LASHLEY JR

ORGANIC FARM RESOURCES - Winnsboro, LA

I AM SURE EVERY DOT SHOULD HAVE A CDL AND PREFER TO HAVE SOME DRIVING EXPERINCE. ONE OF MY TRUCKS GOT DOT'D IN OK AND THE YOUNG MAN HAD HIS BOOK WITH HIM TO CHECK MY TRUCK. THE DRIVER HAD TO ADVISE HIM WHERE TO LOOK FOR SOME OF THE ITEMS AND THEN HE WENT BEYOND A NORMAL INSPECTION. IF YOU CANT DRIVE A TRUCK YOU HAVE NO TRUE SENSE OF HOW TO INSPECT ONE.

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:07 AM CST + 1
DUANE GEISELMAN FCFH TRANSPORTATION LLC Holbrook, NE 205 Posts, 1 +, 1 -	DUANE GEISELMAN FCFH TRANSPORTATION LLC - Holbrook, NE GOTTA AGREE WITH ART. WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY COLLEGE EDUCATED IDIOTS MAKING RULES FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN. IN SPEAKING WITH OUR LOCAL FMCSA FIELD OFFICE I MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT DURING THE CONGRESSIONAL BREAK IN AUGUST MAYBE SOME FMCSA PERSONELL OR EVEN SOME SENATORS OR CONGRESSMAN JUMP IN WITH A FEW OF MY DRIVERS AND GO FOR A TOUR TO SEE HOW THEIR REGULATIONS AFFECT THE DRIVERS LIVES. ALSO SUGGESTED THAT FMCSA EMPLOYEES AND WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PERSONELL SUJECT THEMSELVES TO THE SAME REGULATION THAT THEY REQUIRE OF DRIVERS. TO SAY IT WENT OVER LIKE A LEAD BALLOON WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. " WE JUST MAKE THE RULES, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SEE HOW THEY AFFECT ANYONE!" WAS THE RESPONSE I GOT. MADE ME PROUD TO SEE THAT MY TAX DOLLARS ARE BENEFITTING MY INDUSTRY IN THAT MANNER.

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:07 AM CST

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DUANE GEISELMAN

FCFH TRANSPORTATION LLC

Holbrook, NE

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DUANE GEISELMAN

FCFH TRANSPORTATION LLC - Holbrook, NE

GOTTA AGREE WITH ART. WE HAVE WAY TOO MANY COLLEGE EDUCATED IDIOTS MAKING RULES FOR AN INDUSTRY THAT THEY HAVE NO EXPERIENCE IN. IN SPEAKING WITH OUR LOCAL FMCSA FIELD OFFICE I MADE THE SUGGESTION THAT DURING THE CONGRESSIONAL BREAK IN AUGUST MAYBE SOME FMCSA PERSONELL OR EVEN SOME SENATORS OR CONGRESSMAN JUMP IN WITH A FEW OF MY DRIVERS AND GO FOR A TOUR TO SEE HOW THEIR REGULATIONS AFFECT THE DRIVERS LIVES. ALSO SUGGESTED THAT FMCSA EMPLOYEES AND WELL AS DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION PERSONELL SUJECT THEMSELVES TO THE SAME REGULATION THAT THEY REQUIRE OF DRIVERS. TO SAY IT WENT OVER LIKE A LEAD BALLOON WOULD BE AN UNDERSTATEMENT. " WE JUST MAKE THE RULES, WE DON'T HAVE TIME TO SEE HOW THEY AFFECT ANYONE!" WAS THE RESPONSE I GOT. MADE ME PROUD TO SEE THAT MY TAX DOLLARS ARE BENEFITTING MY INDUSTRY IN THAT MANNER.

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:23 AM CST + 1
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 599 Posts, 307 +, 107 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Having a CDL doesn’t really mean much, however if you recruited small fleet owners they would have real battlefield experience in the market, understanding the pressures inside the office, and likely have a million miles behind a windshield, so they would be well rounded. They should be recruited from all segments, dry bulk, liquid bulk, dry van, refrigerated, over size, etc since all face different challenges .

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:23 AM CST

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

Having a CDL doesn’t really mean much, however if you recruited small fleet owners they would have real battlefield experience in the market, understanding the pressures inside the office, and likely have a million miles behind a windshield, so they would be well rounded. They should be recruited from all segments, dry bulk, liquid bulk, dry van, refrigerated, over size, etc since all face different challenges .

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:23 AM CST
DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM Milbank, SD 225 Posts, 127 +, 34 -	DALE HERMANS HERMANS FARM - Milbank, SD I feel like that's a very reasonable idea Art. Seems to me that something like that could benefit safety as well as standard of living. It is also my belief that some of these dot fines are just "taxation without representation " hidden under the disguise of safety. You put that in great context Art. A local SD representative is a parts man in a truck shop, I'm heading there now to chat with him about that exact topic. He has at least had the guts to fight back on some of the heavy handedness of the fmcsa. Unfortunately he has to excuse himself from many votes, regarding trucking, because.....his family owns a trucking repair shop and heavy towing service, and the eld mandate has financially benefited their towing business, and epa emissions standards have benefited the repair shop financially.

Replied on Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 10:23 AM CST

DALE HERMANS

HERMANS FARM

Milbank, SD

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DALE HERMANS

HERMANS FARM - Milbank, SD

I feel like that's a very reasonable idea Art. Seems to me that something like that could benefit safety as well as standard of living. It is also my belief that some of these dot fines are just "taxation without representation " hidden under the disguise of safety.

You put that in great context Art. A local SD representative is a parts man in a truck shop, I'm heading there now to chat with him about that exact topic. He has at least had the guts to fight back on some of the heavy handedness of the fmcsa. Unfortunately he has to excuse himself from many votes, regarding trucking, because.....his family owns a trucking repair shop and heavy towing service, and the eld mandate has financially benefited their towing business, and epa emissions standards have benefited the repair shop financially.

Replied on Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:00 AM CST
JERRY BECK BECK BULK HANKAMER, TX 510 Posts, 44 +, 5 -	JERRY BECK BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX Sounds like the best idea I’ve heard. I’ve noticed that our village has a certified county deputy FMCSA qualified truck inspector now. He doesn’t know how to pour piss out of a boot but he’s our truck inspector.

Replied on Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 10:00 AM CST

JERRY BECK

BECK BULK

HANKAMER, TX

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JERRY BECK

BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX

Sounds like the best idea I’ve heard. I’ve noticed that our village has a certified county deputy FMCSA qualified truck inspector now. He doesn’t know how to pour piss out of a boot but he’s our truck inspector.

Replied on Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:10 PM CST
PETE WENGER PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC Manheim, PA 64 Posts, 1 +, 1 -	PETE WENGER PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC - Manheim, PA Absolutely and random drug,alcohol and CBD screening and then occasionally we send them for roundup testing.

Replied on Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 07:10 PM CST

PETE WENGER

PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC

Manheim, PA

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PETE WENGER

PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC - Manheim, PA

Absolutely and random drug,alcohol and CBD screening and then occasionally we send them for roundup testing.

Replied on Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:07 AM CST
ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC MORRISTOWN, AZ 604 Posts, 3 +, 2 -	ROSE PFLUGER ROAD WARRIORS TRANSPORTATION INC - MORRISTOWN, AZ I think the basic premise is something we could agree on. I haven't any idea how or to whom to look toward for action. I understand that action on this in my lifetime is unlikely. I however feel strongly that it is time for the little to attempt a seat at the table. Any ideas would be appreciated. Thanks Art Pfluger

Replied on Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 07:07 AM CST