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I made a mental note on that 1. avoid vitaline pet foods in Hazelton pa. they act the same or worse.

I wish we all could get a movement in motion with fmsca on board also with a standard $80 per hour after 2 hr and it would affect only places that handle more than 1 truck per day. that would cut a little break for mom and pop joints. My thoughts to enforce this would be to give drivers rights to property seizure and if that doesn't work give fmsca the power to shut a place down till it's updated to properly handle volume. This is all a dream I keep having and I realize in our capitalism system it is all fantasy. maybe ?

Thats right Brad, Like some of you know already, we parked a few hopper trailers and hooked up to reefers for one, the rates are double what the hopper rates are and the detention time is good and we never have to fight for it. Usually if we are not out of there within 2 hours its $135.00 and and anywhere from $80- $135 an hour after that. We had a truck that got held up in Cinncinati OH on a friday and could not get unloaded and they paid us $2/mi round trip to go home for the weekend to Platteville WI and come back on Sunday night to unload. SO we bobtailed home for the weekend.

Amen to that!!!!

I look at it like this. The places you pick up from or deliver too, the employees there don't work an 8hr shift and only gets paid for 6. No one does anywhere to my knowledge so why should a truck driver have to give up his time for free? Maybe we should all be paid hourly then we don't have to worry about detention time or Maybe we should start negotiating our high dollar salaries and again we wouldn't have to worry about detention times. I think it's great when someone who doesn't have to deal with it and or it doesnt effect them directly can honestly tell a driver what's fair or not fair.

There is no rule or law I know of, but we all know it takes a certain amount of time to load or unload. The charge for transporting their material should have built in revenue for loading/unloading. If it’s first come/first serve, then the customer has no way to prepare for you showing up at the same time as a bunch of other trucks. Of course, I’ve never understood where the rule came from that trucks are supposed to sit for hours with no pay. That rule seems to be hard and fast, though.

Im on the trucking side of things and i would agree with that 100% tic for tat. That would have detention in in writing on every conformation contract both ways. Yes how bout we do this!!!!!!!