******************Warning******************* Well Pet Mishawaka

Jul 12, 2018 at 07:51 AM CST + 4
KEENAN LEWIS 3G LLC Stillwater, OK 3 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	KEENAN LEWIS 3G LLC - Stillwater, OK Hopper drivers. Do not take loads to the well pet facility in Mishawaka. My appointment was not honored. Neither was the other 4 trucks that were here. I got excuse after excuse why they weren?t ready to unload me. I set 10 hours and when I finally had enough two guys came to my truck and one acted like he was full on ready to fight because I yelled at one of his guys. This place is a shit show and not worth wasting time hauling into.

Replied on Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 07:56 AM CST
CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC Platteville, WI 170 Posts, 68 +, 12 -	CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC - Platteville, WI We brought a load there about 6 months ago and sat there for 16 hours. We got a lowsy $100 for detention. Have not been back. They treat the drivers like shit. If they want product brought into that place they can buy there own dam trucks and haul it themselves.

Replied on Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 08:43 AM CST
ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC Tampa, FL 141 Posts, 4 +, 4 -	ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC - Tampa, FL I made a mental note on that 1. avoid vitaline pet foods in Hazelton pa. they act the same or worse.

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 01:01 AM CST
ROY COUGHLAN CCTT TRUCKING LLC Pleasanton, TX 42 Posts, 4 +, 3 -	ROY COUGHLAN CCTT TRUCKING LLC - Pleasanton, TX If all Truckers would Not accept any load, Hopper, Reefer, Etc unless it's on the Rate Con $75 - $100 per hr detention after 2hrs or something close to it, Then they might speed it up, Why would the Pick up or Delivery change their F**ked up ways when some of the Truckers will sit there for free, Some Brokers have LOL when I ask about Detention when booking a load, The Detention Details Need to be finalized the same as Rate per mile or per Ton & on the Rate Con before it is signed or if Not the Truck will possibly sit for free. Just my 2 cents

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 01:01 AM CST

ROY COUGHLAN

CCTT TRUCKING LLC

Pleasanton, TX

42 Posts, 4 +, 3 -

ROY COUGHLAN

CCTT TRUCKING LLC - Pleasanton, TX

If all Truckers would Not accept any load, Hopper, Reefer, Etc unless it's on the Rate Con $75 - $100 per hr detention after 2hrs or something close to it, Then they might speed it up,
Why would the Pick up or Delivery change their F**ked up ways when some of the Truckers will sit there for free,
Some Brokers have LOL when I ask about Detention when booking a load,
The Detention Details Need to be finalized the same as Rate per mile or per Ton & on the Rate Con before it is signed or if Not the Truck will possibly sit for free.
Just my 2 cents

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:11 AM CST
ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC Tampa, FL 141 Posts, 4 +, 4 -	ANDREW WENGER AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC - Tampa, FL I wish we all could get a movement in motion with fmsca on board also with a standard $80 per hour after 2 hr and it would affect only places that handle more than 1 truck per day. that would cut a little break for mom and pop joints. My thoughts to enforce this would be to give drivers rights to property seizure and if that doesn't work give fmsca the power to shut a place down till it's updated to properly handle volume. This is all a dream I keep having and I realize in our capitalism system it is all fantasy. maybe ?

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:11 AM CST

ANDREW WENGER

AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC

Tampa, FL

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ANDREW WENGER

AWTRANSPORTATIONLLC - Tampa, FL

I wish we all could get a movement in motion with fmsca on board also with a standard $80 per hour after 2 hr and it would affect only places that handle more than 1 truck per day. that would cut a little break for mom and pop joints. My thoughts to enforce this would be to give drivers rights to property seizure and if that doesn't work give fmsca the power to shut a place down till it's updated to properly handle volume. This is all a dream I keep having and I realize in our capitalism system it is all fantasy. maybe ?

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:18 AM CST + 3
BRAD WEBER BRAD WEBER MANTENO, IL 85 Posts, 0 +, 3 -	BRAD WEBER BRAD WEBER - MANTENO, IL I got news for everybody. Detention should not start at 2 hrs it should start at 30 minutes. Their should be no free time.

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:26 AM CST
CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC Platteville, WI 170 Posts, 68 +, 12 -	CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC - Platteville, WI Thats right Brad, Like some of you know already, we parked a few hopper trailers and hooked up to reefers for one, the rates are double what the hopper rates are and the detention time is good and we never have to fight for it. Usually if we are not out of there within 2 hours its $135.00 and and anywhere from $80- $135 an hour after that. We had a truck that got held up in Cinncinati OH on a friday and could not get unloaded and they paid us $2/mi round trip to go home for the weekend to Platteville WI and come back on Sunday night to unload. SO we bobtailed home for the weekend.

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:26 AM CST

CURT VISSER

VISSER TRUCKING LLC

Platteville, WI

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CURT VISSER

VISSER TRUCKING LLC - Platteville, WI

Thats right Brad, Like some of you know already, we parked a few hopper trailers and hooked up to reefers for one, the rates are double what the hopper rates are and the detention time is good and we never have to fight for it. Usually if we are not out of there within 2 hours its $135.00 and and anywhere from $80- $135 an hour after that. We had a truck that got held up in Cinncinati OH on a friday and could not get unloaded and they paid us $2/mi round trip to go home for the weekend to Platteville WI and come back on Sunday night to unload. SO we bobtailed home for the weekend.

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 07:55 AM CST + 1
BRAD WEBER BRAD WEBER MANTENO, IL 85 Posts, 0 +, 3 -	BRAD WEBER BRAD WEBER - MANTENO, IL Amother idea that needs some thought is if I give you 1hr. At 1:01 I get my hour back. But still their should be no free time.

Replied on Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 02:32 PM CST
GLENN SELLHORST MCWIESER TRUCKING Fremont, NE 107 Posts, 3 +, 7 -	GLENN SELLHORST MCWIESER TRUCKING - Fremont, NE Originally Posted by: BRAD WEBER Quote: "I got news for everybody. Detention should not start at 2 hrs it should start at 30 minutes. Their should be no free time. " Amen to that!!!!

Replied on Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 06:51 AM CST
BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS M&M OILFIELD SERVICES Bee Branch, AR 2 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS M&M OILFIELD SERVICES - Bee Branch, AR I'll throw out that an appointment load detention should start at appointment time, provided you're there on time. If first come, first served, then two hours is fair.

Replied on Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 08:26 PM CST + 1
VAN HOCK HOCK TRUCKING INC Toluca, IL 80 Posts, 3 +, 1 -	VAN HOCK HOCK TRUCKING INC - Toluca, IL I look at it like this. The places you pick up from or deliver too, the employees there don't work an 8hr shift and only gets paid for 6. No one does anywhere to my knowledge so why should a truck driver have to give up his time for free? Maybe we should all be paid hourly then we don't have to worry about detention time or Maybe we should start negotiating our high dollar salaries and again we wouldn't have to worry about detention times. I think it's great when someone who doesn't have to deal with it and or it doesnt effect them directly can honestly tell a driver what's fair or not fair.

Replied on Sun, Jul 15, 2018 at 08:26 PM CST

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VAN HOCK

HOCK TRUCKING INC

Toluca, IL

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VAN HOCK

HOCK TRUCKING INC - Toluca, IL

I look at it like this. The places you pick up from or deliver too, the employees there don't work an 8hr shift and only gets paid for 6. No one does anywhere to my knowledge so why should a truck driver have to give up his time for free? Maybe we should all be paid hourly then we don't have to worry about detention time or Maybe we should start negotiating our high dollar salaries and again we wouldn't have to worry about detention times. I think it's great when someone who doesn't have to deal with it and or it doesnt effect them directly can honestly tell a driver what's fair or not fair.

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:04 PM CST
JERRY ASHLEY AGRA-LOGISTICS Manteno, IL 47 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	JERRY ASHLEY AGRA-LOGISTICS - Manteno, IL Hi Brad, wish someone would show me in writing the law, or rule, that states we have to give receivers/shippers two hours.

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:21 PM CST
BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS M&M OILFIELD SERVICES Bee Branch, AR 2 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS M&M OILFIELD SERVICES - Bee Branch, AR There is no rule or law I know of, but we all know it takes a certain amount of time to load or unload. The charge for transporting their material should have built in revenue for loading/unloading. If it’s first come/first serve, then the customer has no way to prepare for you showing up at the same time as a bunch of other trucks. Of course, I’ve never understood where the rule came from that trucks are supposed to sit for hours with no pay. That rule seems to be hard and fast, though.

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 12:21 PM CST

BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS

M&M OILFIELD SERVICES

Bee Branch, AR

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BRADLEY MCWILLIAMS

M&M OILFIELD SERVICES - Bee Branch, AR

There is no rule or law I know of, but we all know it takes a certain amount of time to load or unload. The charge for transporting their material should have built in revenue for loading/unloading. If it’s first come/first serve, then the customer has no way to prepare for you showing up at the same time as a bunch of other trucks. Of course, I’ve never understood where the rule came from that trucks are supposed to sit for hours with no pay. That rule seems to be hard and fast, though.

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 02:18 PM CST + 1
RUSS WILLIAMS INTEGRITY TRANSPORTATION SERVICES Bertram, TX 102 Posts, 61 +, 9 -	RUSS WILLIAMS INTEGRITY TRANSPORTATION SERVICES - Bertram, TX if a driver is late for appointment time does the trucking company pay same hourly rate to the receiver/ shipper?

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 05:41 PM CST
CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC Platteville, WI 170 Posts, 68 +, 12 -	CURT VISSER VISSER TRUCKING LLC - Platteville, WI Originally Posted by: RUSS WILLIAMS Quote: "if a driver is late for appointment time does the trucking company pay same hourly rate to the receiver/ shipper?" Im on the trucking side of things and i would agree with that 100% tic for tat. That would have detention in in writing on every conformation contract both ways. Yes how bout we do this!!!!!!!

Replied on Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 05:41 PM CST