153 fertilizer loads in Oklahoma

All I have to do is walk about 50 ft off the back deck and I'm there.

Can you direct me to the company in Oklahoma? We have capisity.

I think he wants to know where you were getting those premium fertilizer offers from? LOL

Caught a couple of keepers for my guys today. Whew this fishing thing is getting to be hard work.

Scott I was offered grain to go down to the port and fertilizer to come back to be dispersed throughout various points in Missouri you know the deal we do this every year what else is new for a whopping $1.31 round trip wow sign me up. Idiots, oops I hope I don't offend anyone for saying idiots but Trump has taught me well

Right now we have idiots running loose everywhere, when a industry such as ours preys upon those what are less knowledgeble then themselves what do you expect. This is why we have to start working together to educate one another to level the playing field. I finally got the independent carrier group website done. This is not a load board but a private education site just for independent carriers.


www.independentcarriergroup.com

Boys and girls I notice several of you have viewed, my question is this. Is everyone having time to read while in line loading or unloading or has it come to the point where we are finally seeing that hauling for these type of rates is only allowing everyone except us with all the expenses to make the profit? I am hoping it's the latter of the two. Give me some of your thoughts.

first of all trucking companies are struggling because they take what ever to keep the truck running and to try and keep a driver.whenn u have so many companies hiring drivers out of the crib that no nothing but jam gears and sleep and want home every night but want all the benifits to come to him. then you have brokers comming out of the wood work telling customers they will take all there freight at a lower price and then the freight brokers go belly up.all this is from greed.take care of the equipment and drivers you have and make a goal to rates you can keep safe dependable equipment saftey programs for trucks and drivers and pay and avreage ur rate per mile and stick to it there is enough freight for all if you take what you can haul.if something breaks down offer it to another trucking company with out gougging him after all he is the one pulling you out of the fire when that happens if we all stick together rates will go up and thr trucking industries will grow instead of closing.same as anything or problem we all need to work together as honest hard working people and live life the best we can without being greedy and trying to make it all for yourself.just having life and being able to support yourself is all we need lets get to work and put the honest reliable people back in and hopefully we all can survive this mess cause the customer and shippers arent going to do it especially with there wheelboro ,pickup or continental they no its to cheap
have a blessed day

Jason it does get me to thinking, first off not all the ones out here have the 20 plus years of connections to rely on and able to sit back knowing that next good paying load is just waiting for phone call to get the load number. I realize that is fantastic knowing, but it doesn't solve the problems for many others out here that are still in the process of trying to get those type of connections. I don't believe anyone is going to come to your house and threaten you for saying that. I do look at it as we and not me. Very happy to see you've done well with the market, that is having your dividends paying you to actually do nothing, that's the only way I know that's accomplished. Have a great day big boy.

I can be but wasn't trying to be. Maybe it just comes naturally when dealing with certain folks that has a guilt feeling about themselves. The big boy thing was not meant to be a discredit, I even call my grandons that. Have a great day little man. Is that better?

This mess crazy

Glenn this is what I don't understand maybe you can give me some insight Pam transport offers me a power only independent carrier agreement for a $1.57 all miles not including fuel discounts all I have to do is pull their trailer and prime down here where I live is offering a $1.69 average all miles in my neighbor just paid a $1.41 for his fuel with their discount so why would anybody think about hauling any loads that are being offered it doesn't make any sense

Jason the ferilizer rates is crap because Gavilon (Commodity Broker) and key thinks that is where it needs to be, they can ship it by rail cheaper that is what I am told. So it is not the freight brokers when it comes to Fertilizer. All the other Fertilizer companies follow suit because Gavilon is the biggest and they get it right to move at those low rates.

You guys are quick to blame the freight brokers, but with out freight brokers most of you will boat with out a paddle.

Hey Jason i really wish i knew what some of these people are thinking up my way. I argue with them about what the are hauling for and the only response i get is gotta keep the cash flowing. Well like Ron White would say, you can't fix stupid!

these rates are usually set months before movement and they are rated mostly for moving on rail cars, when the cars don;t show up and won;t show up for a while they try and move the loads for the equivalent of the rail rate as obvioiusly if they don;t they start to lose money. it's a simple as that. the carriers who take the loads have found better paying loads either on the front end or back end and so they want the loads. it sucks for everyone else but it is what it is, no one can afford to lose money in this atmosphere, so it has little to do with who has the loads. its all aboot the margins boys and the margins these days suck for everyone

Cry me a river

It is sad that you think we, as owner/operators, should take these cheap loads because the cost to go rail is cheaper. It is the freight brokers responsibility to push back on the shipper. When are the freight brokers going to stand up to the shippers and tell them the truckers are not going to drive for these rates. We parked our hoppers. We cannot survive on $1.15 a loaded mile.

I would rather be in a boat without a paddle than haul for these cheap rates where we cannot pay our bills. Soon the freight broker is going to be on the titanic with an iceberg in sight if drivers stop hauling their loads.

lol per mile not metric ton obviously, i type too fast

I know one thing I have had to make numerous new connections that I thought I would never have to make in these down times but it has worked out for the better so when times get better and they do run out of trucks when the ELD 's go through and all the new changes that are getting ready to happen over a couple years I'm either going to break it off in the people that are breaking it off my ass right now or they can kiss my ass

Shhhh!!!!

Hi Mr. Sellhorst...I'm pretty close to ya, and I can never figure how some carriers (most) run for peenuts, and still keep going. Musta found a special on Viagra.

Good morning if all of you would keep in contact with one another you could solve the money issue ,peace have a good new year

I meant to say Oklahoma not Colorado.