Bad Rates

Mar 05, 2021 at 06:54 PM CST + 32
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Good grief what is up with these rates? Everyone should park your trucks for a week till the rates raise atleast 50 cents.. I mean 2.40 a loaded mile makes 1.20 all miles minus $1/mile for expenses makes some ya running for .20 cents per mile...WTH is going on here? Fuel is $3.00/gallon tires are $350-$450 You guys really hauling for 2.40? I dont get it..

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:12 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Calm down David!!!

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:12 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. ITS GOING TO GET WORSE BUT HOW DO YOU GET THESE BROKERS TO CUT LOOSE MORE $ OR FUEL SURCHARGE? I SEE BIG TROUBLE COMMING IM TRING TO GET FUEL SURCHARGE BUT ITS HARD WITH PEOPLE STILL GIVIN CHARITY WORK OUT.

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:13 AM CST + 2 - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I’m not sure people know how to calculate rates. I calculate mine at 60,000lb load at $4 a mile. Try to at least get $3.50 but shoot for $4. I’ll park for any less. But in case someone wants to learn. Figure out how many miles youre going loaded and times it by 4. So if I was loaded 300 miles I’d take 300x4=1200 so id need to make $1200 off that load. There is 600 100lbs in 60,000lbs so I’d divide my $1,200 by 600 and get $2.00 so I’d shoot for $2/cwt. Although if they have a backload I’d come off a bit. Or they over load so much they make a profit.

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:13 AM CST

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I’m not sure people know how to calculate rates. I calculate mine at 60,000lb load at $4 a mile. Try to at least get $3.50 but shoot for $4. I’ll park for any less. But in case someone wants to learn. Figure out how many miles youre going loaded and times it by 4. So if I was loaded 300 miles I’d take 300x4=1200 so id need to make $1200 off that load. There is 600 100lbs in 60,000lbs so I’d divide my $1,200 by 600 and get $2.00 so I’d shoot for $2/cwt. Although if they have a backload I’d come off a bit. Or they over load so much they make a profit.

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:13 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Really? No one gonna talk to me?

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:13 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. There will more of a truck shortage once fuel hits its new high. If you think 3 dollar fuel is bad then hang on. This round will catch unprepared folks and turn their business into dust. We might all have to run for cover and wait for another pandemic. Here in pa someplaces are at nearly 4 bucks a gal already and crude is at 65. If crude hits 150 the price for fuel could hit 10 a gallon and roads will be emptier then any shutdown would ever do

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 08:13 AM CST

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There will more of a truck shortage once fuel hits its new high. If you think 3 dollar fuel is bad then hang on. This round will catch unprepared folks and turn their business into dust. We might all have to run for cover and wait for another pandemic. Here in pa someplaces are at nearly 4 bucks a gal already and crude is at 65. If crude hits 150 the price for fuel could hit 10 a gallon and roads will be emptier then any shutdown would ever do

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "There will more of a truck shortage once fuel hits its new high. If you think 3 dollar fuel is bad then hang on. This round will catch unprepared folks and turn their business into dust. We might all have to run for cover and wait for another pandemic. Here in pa someplaces are at nearly 4 bucks a gal already and crude is at 65. If crude hits 150 the price for fuel could hit 10 a gallon and roads will be emptier then any shutdown would ever do" Who says that rates will come up, even with fuel? Our fuel guy is locking in prices for 2022. Rates have been garbage since the last time they needed trucks because of the capacity shortage in rail. If rates do come up, it sure won't be because of truckers and brokers saying no to cheap freight. PPP loans came out, when the spot market was smoking, and what happened? Every blockhead pulled out their labor cost on their cost per mile, and tried to lock in freight at crazy low level, just so they could keep moving. The only thing that will move rates higher will be increased demand. God knows that this industry can't make that happen for themselves.

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST

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Quote: "There will more of a truck shortage once fuel hits its new high. If you think 3 dollar fuel is bad then hang on. This round will catch unprepared folks and turn their business into dust. We might all have to run for cover and wait for another pandemic. Here in pa someplaces are at nearly 4 bucks a gal already and crude is at 65. If crude hits 150 the price for fuel could hit 10 a gallon and roads will be emptier then any shutdown would ever do"

Who says that rates will come up, even with fuel? Our fuel guy is locking in prices for 2022. Rates have been garbage since the last time they needed trucks because of the capacity shortage in rail. If rates do come up, it sure won't be because of truckers and brokers saying no to cheap freight. PPP loans came out, when the spot market was smoking, and what happened? Every blockhead pulled out their labor cost on their cost per mile, and tried to lock in freight at crazy low level, just so they could keep moving. The only thing that will move rates higher will be increased demand. God knows that this industry can't make that happen for themselves.

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST + 5
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I might add that there is alot and I mean alot of corn that goes from N. Missouri, E. Kansas, S Iowa that goes down to S. Missouri, N Arkansas..But, it is nearly impossibe to find a back haul with in 100 miles of the house...Corn is 5.30 cents here locally in Missouri spread some love C'mon man..One more thing, I can not believe people voted for this! Well, maybe I can when I observe the ignotance of some people...

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST

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I might add that there is alot and I mean alot of corn that goes from N. Missouri, E. Kansas, S Iowa that goes down to S. Missouri, N Arkansas..But, it is nearly impossibe to find a back haul with in 100 miles of the house...Corn is 5.30 cents here locally in Missouri spread some love C'mon man..One more thing, I can not believe people voted for this! Well, maybe I can when I observe the ignotance of some people...

Replied on Mon, Mar 08, 2021 at 10:13 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Look at me with incorrect spelling..So much for proof reading..LOL

Replied on Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 07:29 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Never has been a steady load back north from those points and it's not worth loading usually cause there is ten trucks for one load. Just don't plan on anything going north and if it does sometimes grab it if worth while.

Replied on Tue, Mar 09, 2021 at 07:48 AM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Have 15 million lbs canola pulling doubles 80000 in the box. Was offered 1.25cwt. Pulled 2 loads 158000 off farm. Asked for 1.50 cwt to cover fuel going up every week broker said nope. Canola is in the bin

Replied on Thu, Mar 11, 2021 at 07:41 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Wow, Greg that is pretty damn sad...Sorry to hear it.

Replied on Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 07:37 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Stop hauling loads for these brokers who repost the other brokers loads for alot less. To watch these same brokers expand and add more dispatchers is frustrating. They consume majority of the loads posted. It's easy to figure out who these brokers are...I don't haul for them. I dont see how any driver can afford to stay in business. These brokers are quick to put OO / small fleets out of business. Fight fire with fire.

Replied on Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 07:37 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Stop hauling loads for these brokers who repost the other brokers loads for alot less. To watch these same brokers expand and add more dispatchers is frustrating. They consume majority of the loads posted. It's easy to figure out who these brokers are...I don't haul for them. I dont see how any driver can afford to stay in business. These brokers are quick to put OO / small fleets out of business. Fight fire with fire.

Replied on Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 07:16 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "There will more of a truck shortage once fuel hits its new high. If you think 3 dollar fuel is bad then hang on. This round will catch unprepared folks and turn their business into dust. We might all have to run for cover and wait for another pandemic. Here in pa someplaces are at nearly 4 bucks a gal already and crude is at 65. If crude hits 150 the price for fuel could hit 10 a gallon and roads will be emptier then any shutdown would ever do" Kansas. Just saw fuel at 3.00. that is up about .40 cents from a couple weeks ago . Gas is only .10 under it. Biden and friends need to be removed. I'm looking at a new truck and trailer. That is about $230k. I'm not sure I can pay for that hauling grain . Insurance is probably going to cost a fortune on that . But I need to do something to make s living. Don't want used equipment. Too many headaches.

Replied on Wed, Mar 17, 2021 at 07:16 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Kansas. Just saw fuel at 3.00. that is up about .40 cents from a couple weeks ago . Gas is only .10 under it.

Biden and friends need to be removed.

I'm looking at a new truck and trailer. That is about $230k. I'm not sure I can pay for that hauling grain . Insurance is probably going to cost a fortune on that . But I need to do something to make s living. Don't want used equipment. Too many headaches.

Replied on Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:14 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I get it they’re idiots they don’t care they’re in the free world

Replied on Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:14 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I’m not sure people know how to calculate rates. I calculate mine at 60,000lb load at $4 a mile. Try to at least get $3.50 but shoot for $4. I’ll park for any less. But in case someone wants to learn. Figure out how many miles youre going loaded and times it by 4. So if I was loaded 300 miles I’d take 300x4=1200 so id need to make $1200 off that load. There is 600 100lbs in 60,000lbs so I’d divide my $1,200 by 600 and get $2.00 so I’d shoot for $2/cwt. Although if they have a backload I’d come off a bit. Or they over load so much they make a profit." Number one no such thing of a backhaul cost to same shit to run either way that's just a cues to bring the rate down

Replied on Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 05:14 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I’m not sure people know how to calculate rates. I calculate mine at 60,000lb load at $4 a mile. Try to at least get $3.50 but shoot for $4. I’ll park for any less. But in case someone wants to learn. Figure out how many miles youre going loaded and times it by 4. So if I was loaded 300 miles I’d take 300x4=1200 so id need to make $1200 off that load. There is 600 100lbs in 60,000lbs so I’d divide my $1,200 by 600 and get $2.00 so I’d shoot for $2/cwt. Although if they have a backload I’d come off a bit. Or they over load so much they make a profit."

Number one no such thing of a backhaul cost to same shit to run either way that's just a cues to bring the rate down

Replied on Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:25 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. According to a few brokers I’ve talked to you are not supposed to look and pay any attention to per mile but the end of the week revenue, I wonder if they believe this bull shit themselves.