California spread vs other??

Oct 22, 2021 at 06:17 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. What is a California spread compared to something else. I just bought my first spread. Its 8ft 2. Is that not legal in communist California? Dealer told me it was. Art Pfluger

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 11:09 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Did the dealer say California spread or Canadian spread?

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 04:00 PM CST - 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Dealer in Wisconsin said it was legal in lower 48. Its 8ft 2. Supposed to be good for 38000. Art Pfluger

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 08:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Dealer in Wisconsin said it was legal in lower 48. Its 8ft 2. Supposed to be good for 38000. Art Pfluger" In CA you need 10.2 spread for 40000 pounds and your not allowed over 20000 per axle

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 08:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. What kind of trailer is it? How long is it? Thank You

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 08:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Dealer in Wisconsin said it was legal in lower 48. Its 8ft 2. Supposed to be good for 38000. Art Pfluger" I'm somewhat familiar with this setup, but I'm not sure what the dealer was saying to you. Were you thinking this would help you axle out an 80,000 lb load or let you carry 84,000?

Replied on Sat, Oct 23, 2021 at 08:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I assume it was axleing out an 80,000 lb load.

Replied on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 03:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. California speed 10.2 good for 40000 then 9.0 good for 39000 and 8.2 good for 34000 like close tandem

Replied on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 03:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "California speed 10.2 good for 40000 then 9.0 good for 39000 and 8.2 good for 34000 like close tandem" Spread

Replied on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 08:55 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Its a 44ft western belt. The dealer in Wisconsin said good for 38000 nationwide. I don't go to California often, but of course they have to be different. Federal Bridge shows it good for 38000. Wonder how often someone would measure?

Replied on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 08:56 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. McGraw. Where is this rule published? I believe you just wanting to know where to look. Thanks

Replied on Sun, Oct 24, 2021 at 08:56 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Sorry about auto correct, no disrespect. MrGrau Sr. Maybe what I'm missing is this, does the California spread rule apply if you are on a federal interstate?

Replied on Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 08:00 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Art, State rules apply regardless of what road you are on. Even here in the Midwest the rules are all over the place. Some states will give it to you 38,000 with an 8-2, some with a 8-6, and others won't give you anything until you get to 9 ft and then you get 39,000. I have an 8-8 which puts me in a little better spot then an 8-2. As you said, the question is will anybody measure it. I would say the closer you are to 34,000 than 38,000 the less chance there is of that happening.

Replied on Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 08:00 AM CST

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Art, State rules apply regardless of what road you are on. Even here in the Midwest the rules are all over the place. Some states will give it to you 38,000 with an 8-2, some with a 8-6, and others won't give you anything until you get to 9 ft and then you get 39,000. I have an 8-8 which puts me in a little better spot then an 8-2. As you said, the question is will anybody measure it. I would say the closer you are to 34,000 than 38,000 the less chance there is of that happening.

Replied on Mon, Oct 25, 2021 at 10:34 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Art, the dealer lied to you. Having lived and trucked in Ca. for many years, Gabe is spot on with his weights. The Ca. vehicle code sec. 35551 lists all the weights allowed. As far as rolling across the scales, the differance between a 8..2 and a 10.2 is pretty obvious. The CHP is not afraid to stop you and measure your axles.

Replied on Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 04:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Relocating the frt axle a few inches to get 9ft is a project, but not that bad doable. Probably have to get new sub assembly to be go 10 ft. If 9 ft is a "safer" number is guess i could get torch out.

Replied on Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 04:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I do appreciate all the awesome help.

Replied on Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 09:16 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Ok..my mistake measured more carefully as my memory isn't what it used to be. It is 8ft 8inches. Attempting to look up the vehicle code i still can't decipher clearly, but it did say that a measurement 6 inches or more gets counted to the next whole foot. With that why would you not be able to use the same weight as a 9ft spread? And when you guys say 9ft, is it 9ft or 9ft 1 or 9 ft 2? Just trying to understand. I really don't want to get caught because I didn't know. Thanks for everyone input Art Pfluger

Replied on Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 09:16 PM CST

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Ok..my mistake measured more carefully as my memory isn't what it used to be. It is 8ft 8inches. Attempting to look up the vehicle code i still can't decipher clearly, but it did say that a measurement 6 inches or more gets counted to the next whole foot. With that why would you not be able to use the same weight as a 9ft spread? And when you guys say 9ft, is it 9ft or 9ft 1 or 9 ft 2? Just trying to understand. I really don't want to get caught because I didn't know. Thanks for everyone input Art Pfluger

Replied on Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 01:17 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Art, Your original post said 8ft 2in that is an 8ft spread, however at 8ft. 8in. it should be considered a 9ft. spread givind you 39000.

Replied on Thu, Oct 28, 2021 at 10:22 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Yes. You know the first thing to go is the memory. When California says 10ft it seems that usually its 10ft 1 or 2. If you do a legit 9 ft spread does it also need to be plus 1 or 2? So far contacting trailer dealers for information isn't working out, so I appreciate the time and response. Art Pfluger

Replied on Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:32 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Also yes 8'7" is considered 9 ft they round up over the six inch mark

Replied on Fri, Oct 29, 2021 at 11:32 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. In ca you must have at least 8'7"to go 39000 anything under that is only good for 34000 in ca! I pull a cattle trailer with that setup it's good for 84800 depending on bridge in Oregon and Wyoming. The 8'2" is good for 38000 but not in ca. Hope this helps but they also haven't ever measured me in ca either I'm down here every week.