Direct shippers. Only way

I will add a couple more.

The Andersons

POET

Nutrition...SORRY...

Add Badger Ingredients to the list.

Bingo... We can't do all the work for you...You better hurry, every dispatcher, broker, their brothers, and cousins on Bulkloads are doing it right now. Good Luck. I bet all those phones are blowing up as we speak.

Ok, I'll give you one more tip, We'll call it Barry's bonus tip of the day. I'm wispering now, like your rich Uncle Joe does on TV. Scroll to the VERY TOP of this page, right in the center, to the right of the Bulkloads header with the phone number. There is a little box. We'll call it a search box for those of you with limited investigative skills. Enter the company names listed in this thread. Just like magic, everything you need to know is right there.

If you are a carrier who finds this useful, or amusing, feel free to send me and everyone else in this thread who gave up the magic bullet for success, a $25.00 thank you gift card! If you're a broker, your thank you fee is $75.00, but, if you're a dispatch service, your thank you fee is $125.00. Also, thank your friendly staff at Bulkloads for their effort in putting this site together for you.

Finally, to Bulkloads, if you're listening here, I need a new long sleeve T-shirt in xtra- large. Thank You, and I'm looking forward to seeing you at MATS again this year.

Now, go forth and conquer, you damn fine Americans!!!

I SERIOUSLY need to go back to work.. :)

Thanks, I haven't got any gift card yet. Have you? 🤷

You do realize, the tips explained in this thread were directed at Carriers only correct? 🤦‍♂️

Hey Jeremy,

I was hesitant to list Scoular for the same reason. A couple years ago, several of us ran exclusively for them out of my area to the feed mills about 80-90 miles away. We all have farms in this area and most of us know each other. Basically it was neighbors hauling off of neighbors farms. The deal went south when Scoular chose to keep our exact lanes posted here on Bulkloads. Every time someone called and came in cheaper, they decided to try and cut us rather than keep the relationship and loyalty in place. The trucks that came in were nowhere near the caliber of equipment and level of service that the locals provided. They didn't care, they would rather chase pennies than keep good solid relationships in place. Today, none of the old group runs for them. I had this conversation with them before I pulled out. The response I got was; the only way to keep the rates up is for people to quit hauling it cheaper. I thought maybe a better way was when you have a good solid group of people, maybe you should let them be profitable as well, and take the posting down until your core group could no longer cover the loads. Obviously, they saw it different.

That is not to say I've had the same experience with others within Scoular. When around Georgia in the winter, Quinn is a great person to hook up with if you don't mind hauling wheat mids back towards Texas. Also, Kinzie in North Texas is great to work with. I found myself in a jam one time in southern Oklahoma. Kinzie got me out, bounced me around the middle of Texas for a few days, then Rachel got me home. Rachel is no longer there, but I'd run for any of them again. I guess my home area is just a little too competitive, and realationships don't mean the same to them as they do me.

If they ever took a different approach, I'd gladly do it again.

Well Put, and I totally agree. I just don't see it ever happening. For the life of me, I just can't figure out why the people with the equipment can't seem to figure out that it starts with us, and we keep letting everyone else tell us what we're worth, and where we sit in the food chain. EVERY data point that the computers use to figure what a lane is worth, starts with where a truck begins turning down loads, and what trucks are willing to accept. Without that data, nothing else matters. What a shipper or broker is willing to pay is irrelevant if there is no one willing to haul it. Finally, we as a collective need to get rid of the backhaul mentality. When trucking was regulated and carriers stayed in their lanes, I can maybe see it. These days, it's just a term used to make "cheap" easier to swallow. I suggest the next time someone says it's a backhaul rate, ask them what do they actually bid as a line haul? Seriously, the expenses are the same either way. I've actually had someone on this website tell me they realize their load is going deep into a black hole where there is now way to get another load anywhere reasonably close, but the load is still priced as a one way rate. We as a group really need to wake up. I apologize in advance if I've triggered anyone, I'm typing on two cups of coffee, so I can't be held responsible for anything I've said here, it's the caffene!

1. Why should anyone care what others think about how someone runs their business? Forums are merely a place to share information and ideas, so those with experience can help those without. Regarding part 2 of the first question, when you ask, "how is that working for you?" I'm not sure who you are asking, but it's working fine for me and all of my friends as well. While the rates could be better, time will fix that, and I'm patient.

2. You are correct, regarding too many carriers, trucks, and drivers, however, you forgot to add there are too many brokers, and dispatchers as well.

3. You are also correct, nobody can handle them all, but I'm not sure who all is. I've never read a comment on here where someone said they want it all. If someone did, I doubt any of us would have shared the direct shippers listed in this thread.

3. I'm quite certain most of us on here know how to run a business. If you read the comments, surely you can figure out who has been around this industry for a while.

4. Negotiating? You will never negotiate your way to a reasonable rate when the person with the load expects it covered for $2.00 a mile, especially if someone is willing to actually do it for $2.00. If you as a broker book a load with a shipper for $3.00 a mile, are you goiing to let someone negotiate you up to $3.75?

NEGOTIATING SKILLS as you said, are worthless when the rate is garbage to begin with. Nice try though...

AND... AND... THERE ARE MANY TRUCK OWNERS THAT DON'T KNOW HOW TO TURN A BUSINESS.

Oilfield is moving a lot of sand. Need trucks with automatic or auto shift hauling east it minot nd to berthold nd pays 500 a trip if you want to run fast you will make 2000 also looking for triple axle trailers.

looked at a 5 yr old trailer hoppers were shot.

I listed them, however I didn't say they were good. I left that for those that decide to call them to decide if it was a good fit for them or not. This thread was about direct shippers, not a review of them. If you think Badger's rates are low, and I'm not taking a side either way because I've never ran for them, what would you think about the 27 brokers that are listing their loads?

Doesn't suprise me. Don't think for one minute that after the info was shared in this thread that EVERY dispatcher on Bulkloads didn't start blowing their phones up, and when you have nothing else to sell, you sell rates. It wouldn't suprise me if the sheer volume of calls to those listed didn't lower the rates. And that ladies and gentlemen, are how rates race to the bottom...

P.S. I haven't got any thanks you gift cards.

Do you charge banking fees?

Who pays in 120 days? I've NEVER run into that pulling my hopper, or my tank. If someone ever told me they have 120 day pay terms, I'd pass. That is ridiculous.

30 days is fair. I have customer that paid in 45 days. That wasn't much of a problem as it was short load once a week. But I was negotiating a deal to do much more. We got the rate set but I told them I wouldn't wait 45 days. They agreed to 21 days with no problem. I have another customer that paid their bills every week. Occasionally I got paid before delivering the load. Relationships. Everyone should look out for number one.