ELD-anyone else shop around

Aug 22, 2017 at 04:01 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I started looking at ELD's because I want to get used to how mine works before the mandate. What I found that will work for me is made by VDORoadLog. It is simple and easy to use with no monthly charge and what I considered a reasonable price. I don't want to get into long discussions about whether or not we have to have them or if we need them. It is a mandate I want to comply with so I did my due diligence and found this and wanted to share it with others.

Replied on Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 04:50 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Thank you.

Replied on Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 12:12 AM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I started shopping around for one to find out which one would be a good one to get. Been looking at the Rand Mcnally and was wondering if anybody has tried this one and what is the good and bad of this one, or is there a better one to try.

Replied on Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 07:14 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I started shopping around for one to find out which one would be a good one to get. Been looking at the Rand Mcnally and was wondering if anybody has tried this one and what is the good and bad of this one, or is there a better one to try." We are in the process of installing the ELD50 units from Rand Mcnally. Very quick and easy to install. We are running 12 units right now and installing the rest before the middle of September. After shopping around we found that these were the best option for us and the drivers/owner ops are catching on fairly quickly.

Replied on Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 07:14 AM CST

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Quote: "I started shopping around for one to find out which one would be a good one to get. Been looking at the Rand Mcnally and was wondering if anybody has tried this one and what is the good and bad of this one, or is there a better one to try."

We are in the process of installing the ELD50 units from Rand Mcnally. Very quick and easy to install. We are running 12 units right now and installing the rest before the middle of September. After shopping around we found that these were the best option for us and the drivers/owner ops are catching on fairly quickly.

Replied on Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:43 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I used the Rand McNally, I would never out another back in my truck.

Replied on Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 03:34 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I used the Rand McNally, I would never out another back in my truck." Meaning You DON'T Like RMs?!

Replied on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 02:32 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Meaning You DON'T Like RMs?!" No I'm not putting a Rand in, still looking though.

Replied on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 09:58 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. I won't buy a vdo. Had it for a while. I would put fuel in the truck in nebraska and then when I go to record it, it would show I purchased fuel in Iowa. I was atleast 10 miles from the border. I called customer service and they told me there wasn't any way to change it. One time I did the post trip inspection and logged out over the weekend, when I came back it had me redflagged and on duty the whole weekend. The touch screen is really small and hard to use and seemed like the touch part of it was not working very good. Had trouble with it freezing operation a couple times too. I only used it for 6 months and finally had enough and went back to paper logs. It was way faster. I am now looking into the rand McNally models right now. Will try to make a decision before harvest starts so I can get used to running it. Vdo wouldn't refund my money after I asked within the first 3 months of ownership and having lots of program problems. The local peterbilt dealership had installed them in their parts vans and they too are looking for something else.

Replied on Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 09:58 PM CST

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I won't buy a vdo. Had it for a while. I would put fuel in the truck in nebraska and then when I go to record it, it would show I purchased fuel in Iowa. I was atleast 10 miles from the border. I called customer service and they told me there wasn't any way to change it. One time I did the post trip inspection and logged out over the weekend, when I came back it had me redflagged and on duty the whole weekend. The touch screen is really small and hard to use and seemed like the touch part of it was not working very good. Had trouble with it freezing operation a couple times too. I only used it for 6 months and finally had enough and went back to paper logs. It was way faster. I am now looking into the rand McNally models right now. Will try to make a decision before harvest starts so I can get used to running it. Vdo wouldn't refund my money after I asked within the first 3 months of ownership and having lots of program problems. The local peterbilt dealership had installed them in their parts vans and they too are looking for something else.

Replied on Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 09:15 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Go to fmcsa page and make sure they are excepted and comply with their regs.

Replied on Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:59 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Go to fmcsa page and make sure they are excepted and comply with their regs." Has anyone tried the KeepTruckin ELD?

Replied on Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 12:10 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Has anyone tried the KeepTruckin ELD?" Ive been using that for 2 yrs on my cell phone, works perfect eecept I had to stop using this early summer because i haul livestock and they wont install the exemptions for me. Back to paper. No company i have checked on has any livestock exemptions installed in their systems.

Replied on Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:30 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Ive been using that for 2 yrs on my cell phone, works perfect eecept I had to stop using this early summer because i haul livestock and they wont install the exemptions for me. Back to paper. No company i have checked on has any livestock exemptions installed in their systems." I have used K-T on I-pad couple years, makes a nice neat log but to use their E-Log program fleets of 10 or less trucks must pay for year in advance. Won't work for me. Livestock exemptions. Whats that?????? Hauled livestock for several years, haven't hauled any for awhile. Only exemptions I was aware of was lie and 'hope you don't get cought.!!!!!!

Replied on Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 07:30 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "Ive been using that for 2 yrs on my cell phone, works perfect eecept I had to stop using this early summer because i haul livestock and they wont install the exemptions for me. Back to paper. No company i have checked on has any livestock exemptions installed in their systems."

I have used K-T on I-pad couple years, makes a nice neat log
but to use their E-Log program fleets of 10 or less
trucks must pay for year in advance. Won't work for me.

Livestock exemptions.

Whats that??????

Hauled livestock for several years, haven't hauled any
for awhile.

Only exemptions I was aware of was lie and 'hope you don't
get cought.!!!!!!

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:58 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "I have used K-T on I-pad couple years, makes a nice neat log but to use their E-Log program fleets of 10 or less trucks must pay for year in advance. Won't work for me. Livestock exemptions. Whats that?????? Hauled livestock for several years, haven't hauled any for awhile. Only exemptions I was aware of was lie and 'hope you don't get cought.!!!!!!" Mandated 30 min break is bypassed. If i dont take it the program dont have a exempt button, it auto puts me in red

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 12:58 PM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "I have used K-T on I-pad couple years, makes a nice neat log but to use their E-Log program fleets of 10 or less trucks must pay for year in advance. Won't work for me. Livestock exemptions. Whats that?????? Hauled livestock for several years, haven't hauled any for awhile. Only exemptions I was aware of was lie and 'hope you don't get cought.!!!!!!"

Mandated 30 min break is bypassed. If i dont take it the program dont have a exempt button, it auto puts me in red

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 02:23 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Big Road has the 30 minute break exemption for livestock.

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 05:17 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Mandated 30 min break is bypassed. If i dont take it the program dont have a exempt button, it auto puts me in red" A bill that would exempt carriers from state laws requiring paid meal and rest breaks for drivers and, at least short term, exempt livestock haulers from compliance with the federal electronic logging device has been passed by the House Appropriations Committee’s transportation subcommittee. The full Appropriations Committee is set to debate and consider the legislation Monday, July 19. In the wake of the 2018 DOT funding bill’s unveiling Tuesday, a group representing cow haulers applauded the language exempting livestock haulers from the Dec. 18 compliance date. The bill does not specify when livestock haulers would be required to adopt ELDs. It only prevents FMCSA from enforcing the ELD mandate in the 2018 fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, 2018. “This delay will give us time to address our industry-specific concerns, and give us more time to work with federal regulators to add needed flexibility, as hauling livestock has many challenges and variables,” says Kevin Kester, president-elect of the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association. The provisions are not yet law, however, and must clear significant hurdles before being enacted. In addition to passage in the U.S. House, the Senate must also pass the bill or provisions that match the House’s trucking riders.

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 05:17 PM CST

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Quote: "Mandated 30 min break is bypassed. If i dont take it the program dont have a exempt button, it auto puts me in red"

A bill that would exempt carriers from state laws requiring paid meal and rest breaks for drivers and, at least short term, exempt livestock haulers from compliance with the federal electronic logging device has been passed by the House Appropriations Committee’s transportation subcommittee. The full Appropriations Committee is set to debate and consider the legislation Monday, July 19.

In the wake of the 2018 DOT funding bill’s unveiling Tuesday, a group representing cow haulers applauded the language exempting livestock haulers from the Dec. 18 compliance date. The bill does not specify when livestock haulers would be required to adopt ELDs. It only prevents FMCSA from enforcing the ELD mandate in the 2018 fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30, 2018. “This delay will give us time to address our industry-specific concerns, and give us more time to work with federal regulators to add needed flexibility, as hauling livestock has many challenges and variables,” says Kevin Kester, president-elect of the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association.

The provisions are not yet law, however, and must clear significant hurdles before being enacted. In addition to passage in the U.S. House, the Senate must also pass the bill or provisions that match the House’s trucking riders.

Replied on Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 07:47 PM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "Mandated 30 min break is bypassed. If i dont take it the program dont have a exempt button, it auto puts me in red" He Jayson Thanks for update was not aware of that exception.