Hopper Rates

Jun 02, 2020 at 01:38 AM CST + 8 - 1
Jamal Tyler TRIPLE AJ DISPATCHING SERVICES Bath, MI 3 Posts, 0 +, 0 -	Jamal Tyler TRIPLE AJ DISPATCHING SERVICES - Bath, MI Hey I was wondering whats the best way to calculate rates for a hopper?

Replied on Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 08:44 AM CST
MICHAEL TSCHIDA MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING South Haven, MN 40 Posts, 11 +, 1 -	MICHAEL TSCHIDA MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING - South Haven, MN I figure my monthly costs without fuel and amortize them out by the number of days I want to run a month. Then I figure what is a reasonable and fair income and what my expected fuel costs will be,and then I figure my rate around my cost and income needs. By using revenue instead of rate per mile you will assure yourself that you are actually making money. High rates on short runs with lots of waiting and deadheaded won't result in profit. You need to figure short runs bases on time not miles. Anything that sits on your truck for 24 hours needs to pay a day of revenue.

Replied on Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 08:44 AM CST

MICHAEL TSCHIDA

MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING

South Haven, MN

40 Posts, 11 +, 1 -

MICHAEL TSCHIDA

MICHAEL TSCHIDA TRUCKING - South Haven, MN

I figure my monthly costs without fuel and amortize them out by the number of days I want to run a month. Then I figure what is a reasonable and fair income and what my expected fuel costs will be,and then I figure my rate around my cost and income needs. By using revenue instead of rate per mile you will assure yourself that you are actually making money. High rates on short runs with lots of waiting and deadheaded won't result in profit. You need to figure short runs bases on time not miles. Anything that sits on your truck for 24 hours needs to pay a day of revenue.

Replied on Tue, Jun 02, 2020 at 05:26 PM CST + 1
GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT DONNYBROOK, ND 96 Posts, 20 +, 5 -	GREG BOMMELMAN WILDWIND TRANSPORT - DONNYBROOK, ND .1212 per ton per mile No fuel surcharge until fuel is over 2.20

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 07:13 AM CST
AARON SANNE P & M ENTERPRISES NORFOLK, NE 84 Posts, 169 +, 17 -	AARON SANNE P & M ENTERPRISES - NORFOLK, NE Ever since I've been in trucking, fuel surcharge has been based on fuel at $1.35/gallon. Why would you not add surcharge til fuel is $2.20?? Do the shops wait til your bill is over $500 before they add a 'shop fee', 'miscellaneous fee', 'EPA fee' (even though your repair had NOTHING to do with the EPA), or any other BS fee they can think of? No wonder truckers are getting screwed, everyone keeps giving the shippers/brokers a mile. Hell, they even charge US if we want paid on day of delivery (aka Quick Pay). When was the last time you told Walmart, the grocery store, or gas company that if they want paid when you receive their product or service its gonna cost them an extra 3.5%? Lemme know how that works out for ya.

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 07:13 AM CST

AARON SANNE

P & M ENTERPRISES

NORFOLK, NE

84 Posts, 169 +, 17 -

AARON SANNE

P & M ENTERPRISES - NORFOLK, NE

Ever since I've been in trucking, fuel surcharge has been based on fuel at $1.35/gallon. Why would you not add surcharge til fuel is $2.20??

Do the shops wait til your bill is over $500 before they add a 'shop fee', 'miscellaneous fee', 'EPA fee' (even though your repair had NOTHING to do with the EPA), or any other BS fee they can think of?

No wonder truckers are getting screwed, everyone keeps giving the shippers/brokers a mile. Hell, they even charge US if we want paid on day of delivery (aka Quick Pay). When was the last time you told Walmart, the grocery store, or gas company that if they want paid when you receive their product or service its gonna cost them an extra 3.5%? Lemme know how that works out for ya.

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 08:55 AM CST + 6
JUSTIN ELLIOTT ROCKING E TRUCK ROCKING E TRUCKING INC. Laramie, WY 10 Posts, 12 +, 1 -	JUSTIN ELLIOTT ROCKING E TRUCK ROCKING E TRUCKING INC. - Laramie, WY Has anyone looked at the original person posting this ? You do realize that all your doing is giving out information. Just so they can cut your throat with your own knife, and not get blood on their hands.

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 11:47 AM CST + 1
TODD SORRELLS SORRELLS FARMS SNYDER, TX 1 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	TODD SORRELLS SORRELLS FARMS - SNYDER, TX Just start at $3.00/mile and go up from there. If you haul cheap you are setting the rate.

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 01:14 PM CST + 1
Mel B BM HAULING Orlando, FL 12 Posts, 23 +, 0 -	Mel B BM HAULING - Orlando, FL Originally Posted by: JUSTIN ELLIOTT ROCKING E TRUCK Quote: "Has anyone looked at the original person posting this ? You do realize that all your doing is giving out information. Just so they can cut your throat with your own knife, and not get blood on their hands." I agree with you 100%

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 02:28 PM CST
DEAN HUGHSON WALK-WAY TRANSPORT WINTHROP, IA 183 Posts, 53 +, 27 -	DEAN HUGHSON WALK-WAY TRANSPORT - WINTHROP, IA Originally Posted by: AARON SANNE Quote: "Ever since I've been in trucking, fuel surcharge has been based on fuel at $1.35/gallon. Why would you not add surcharge til fuel is $2.20?? Do the shops wait til your bill is over $500 before they add a 'shop fee', 'miscellaneous fee', 'EPA fee' (even though your repair had NOTHING to do with the EPA), or any other BS fee they can think of? No wonder truckers are getting screwed, everyone keeps giving the shippers/brokers a mile. Hell, they even charge US if we want paid on day of delivery (aka Quick Pay). When was the last time you told Walmart, the grocery store, or gas company that if they want paid when you receive their product or service its gonna cost them an extra 3.5%? Lemme know how that works out for ya. " Itemize any way you want. The only number that matters is at bottom.

Replied on Wed, Jun 03, 2020 at 02:28 PM CST

DEAN HUGHSON

WALK-WAY TRANSPORT

WINTHROP, IA

183 Posts, 53 +, 27 -

DEAN HUGHSON

WALK-WAY TRANSPORT - WINTHROP, IA

Originally Posted by: AARON SANNE
Quote: "Ever since I've been in trucking, fuel surcharge has been based on fuel at $1.35/gallon. Why would you not add surcharge til fuel is $2.20?? Do the shops wait til your bill is over $500 before they add a 'shop fee', 'miscellaneous fee', 'EPA fee' (even though your repair had NOTHING to do with the EPA), or any other BS fee they can think of? No wonder truckers are getting screwed, everyone keeps giving the shippers/brokers a mile. Hell, they even charge US if we want paid on day of delivery (aka Quick Pay). When was the last time you told Walmart, the grocery store, or gas company that if they want paid when you receive their product or service its gonna cost them an extra 3.5%? Lemme know how that works out for ya. "

Itemize any way you want. The only number that matters is at bottom.