One good reason

Dec 03, 2021 at 02:30 PM CST + 2
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Can anyone name one good reason why trucking should remain exempt from the fair labor standards act? I.E hourly pay and overtime for company drivers. Seems to me that a competent carrier should have no problem passing the cost on in a market that claims there is a shortage of drivers.

Replied on Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 09:28 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. First let me say, I've offered both hourly and salary to my drivers for my benefit as that is a way that I could actually use a payroll company to take something off my plate, but only one person was interested in hourly. His production immediately went down, like the first day. In less than two weeks while we had talked about him milking the clock he rolled a truck. I'm not sure that I wan't to try it again, as that was almost exactly what I thought would happen. Drivers have complete control of when and what they do. With a lack of ethics and morals I don't think I'm comfortable with a driver not having an incentive to work in their pay structure. If everyone would work like I do, I would be more than happy to pay hourly with overtime. That is, to just go do what you're supposed to do. Don't spend an extra hour sitting around doing who knows what every time you stop. I have two drivers that I would switch today if they wanted that, but they are very happy with things the way they are. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they trust that I have their best interest at heart, and would be happy to be paid however would be easier for me, but I would preface the conversation the way I did before, which was to say that it would take a few check cycles to work out the best way to do things, and we would make things fair to what their pay was, just in a different way to do it. Percentage is the most fair way to do it in every instance for everyone. If you do something for $2/ mile or $10/ mile we each get the same percentages of the rate, but payroll has to be done in house.

Replied on Tue, Dec 07, 2021 at 09:28 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

First let me say, I've offered both hourly and salary to my drivers for my benefit as that is a way that I could actually use a payroll company to take something off my plate, but only one person was interested in hourly. His production immediately went down, like the first day. In less than two weeks while we had talked about him milking the clock he rolled a truck. I'm not sure that I wan't to try it again, as that was almost exactly what I thought would happen. Drivers have complete control of when and what they do. With a lack of ethics and morals I don't think I'm comfortable with a driver not having an incentive to work in their pay structure. If everyone would work like I do, I would be more than happy to pay hourly with overtime. That is, to just go do what you're supposed to do. Don't spend an extra hour sitting around doing who knows what every time you stop. I have two drivers that I would switch today if they wanted that, but they are very happy with things the way they are. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they trust that I have their best interest at heart, and would be happy to be paid however would be easier for me, but I would preface the conversation the way I did before, which was to say that it would take a few check cycles to work out the best way to do things, and we would make things fair to what their pay was, just in a different way to do it. Percentage is the most fair way to do it in every instance for everyone. If you do something for $2/ mile or $10/ mile we each get the same percentages of the rate, but payroll has to be done in house.

Replied on Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 07:53 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "First let me say, I've offered both hourly and salary to my drivers for my benefit as that is a way that I could actually use a payroll company to take something off my plate, but only one person was interested in hourly. His production immediately went down, like the first day. In less than two weeks while we had talked about him milking the clock he rolled a truck. I'm not sure that I wan't to try it again, as that was almost exactly what I thought would happen. Drivers have complete control of when and what they do. With a lack of ethics and morals I don't think I'm comfortable with a driver not having an incentive to work in their pay structure. If everyone would work like I do, I would be more than happy to pay hourly with overtime. That is, to just go do what you're supposed to do. Don't spend an extra hour sitting around doing who knows what every time you stop. I have two drivers that I would switch today if they wanted that, but they are very happy with things the way they are. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they trust that I have their best interest at heart, and would be happy to be paid however would be easier for me, but I would preface the conversation the way I did before, which was to say that it would take a few check cycles to work out the best way to do things, and we would make things fair to what their pay was, just in a different way to do it. Percentage is the most fair way to do it in every instance for everyone. If you do something for $2/ mile or $10/ mile we each get the same percentages of the rate, but payroll has to be done in house." Seems to me that not paying hourly is what’s contributing to the degradation of the industry, I have a number of bad actors in my area that severely under bid the market, then they 1099 their company drivers and run illegally with overweight loads on a permit that’s not valid for what their doing in order to make the numbers work. These clowns are making it impossible for a family man to provide a living for their children.

Replied on Wed, Dec 08, 2021 at 07:53 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "First let me say, I've offered both hourly and salary to my drivers for my benefit as that is a way that I could actually use a payroll company to take something off my plate, but only one person was interested in hourly. His production immediately went down, like the first day. In less than two weeks while we had talked about him milking the clock he rolled a truck. I'm not sure that I wan't to try it again, as that was almost exactly what I thought would happen. Drivers have complete control of when and what they do. With a lack of ethics and morals I don't think I'm comfortable with a driver not having an incentive to work in their pay structure. If everyone would work like I do, I would be more than happy to pay hourly with overtime. That is, to just go do what you're supposed to do. Don't spend an extra hour sitting around doing who knows what every time you stop. I have two drivers that I would switch today if they wanted that, but they are very happy with things the way they are. Honestly, I'm pretty sure they trust that I have their best interest at heart, and would be happy to be paid however would be easier for me, but I would preface the conversation the way I did before, which was to say that it would take a few check cycles to work out the best way to do things, and we would make things fair to what their pay was, just in a different way to do it. Percentage is the most fair way to do it in every instance for everyone. If you do something for $2/ mile or $10/ mile we each get the same percentages of the rate, but payroll has to be done in house."

Seems to me that not paying hourly is what’s contributing to the degradation of the industry, I have a number of bad actors in my area that severely under bid the market, then they 1099 their company drivers and run illegally with overweight loads on a permit that’s not valid for what their doing in order to make the numbers work. These clowns are making it impossible for a family man to provide a living for their children.