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Feb 15, 2022 at 09:57 AM CST
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52 truck center zumbrota, Lakeville truck wash Lakeville Mn, Clearwater truck center truckwash Clearwater Mn, Hwy 10 truck wash St.Cloud Mn, All are out of business now, Parkway truck wash in Clearwater Mn, closed about 90% of the time, none of these places can pay the help on what you truckers can afford, but you all think there is such big money in trucking?
Replied on Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 08:22 AM CST
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Wash out prices have skyrocketed. I'm at my wits end one everyone jacking up prices and providing shit services. Our cost go up dollars and rates pennies. I'm getting ready to park again, or hook back onto a reefer.
Replied on Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 11:35 AM CST
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The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload

Replied on Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 01:33 PM CST
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Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

That's kinda like saying the reason auto body shops are closing is because people are always bringing wrecked cars in....
Replied on Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 01:33 PM CST
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Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

A fair amount of places won't let you climb in there and sweep out, even if you wanted too, and there's nothing better than seeing dead deer laying beside the road by the piles of grain someone swept out on the shoulder. I personally don't like seeing piles of fertilizer on the shoulders either....so that leaves the washout as the next logical place, right?
Replied on Wed, Feb 16, 2022 at 09:15 PM CST
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We're closing our shop. Can't find employees. Art Pfluger
Replied on Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:51 AM CST
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Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

Go to Cargill and try to sweep out. They will ban you from all properties for violating safety rules of cargill. Some Purina locations are the same. So to say "deadbeats won't sweep out" should they just violate the rules and get banned? Then you're messing with someone's income.
Replied on Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 09:51 AM CST
Dave why did the 52 truck repair close in zumbrota
Replied on Thu, Feb 17, 2022 at 11:05 AM CST
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Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

You cant just sweep out. Some places require a washout and wont load you if you dont have a valid washout recipte! Such if you hauled M&B meal some places wont let you pick up a load of apples next! Or some type of fertilizer needs a good washout! A lot of places charge outrageous prices for a crap job! Thats part of pulling a hopper!

Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:40 AM CST
Quote: "Dave why did the 52 truck repair close in zumbrota"

You would have to talk to them about that, but from what I remember they couldn’t keep help around, the last year I did business there you could see a downward spiral, one time the help quit in the middle of my wash, and the owner himself had to finish the job, shortly after that they closed, and if I recall correctly Lakeville was the next one to shut the Doors, probably around 2016. All these truck washes followed the same pattern prior to their demise, just like the mom and pop truck stops that preceded them. All the other truck washes I mentioned have closed in the past year.
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:40 AM CST
Quote: "That's kinda like saying the reason auto body shops are closing is because people are always bringing wrecked cars in...."

I can't Quite figure out his logic on this one.
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:31 AM CST
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Because washing trucks is not a good job nobody on this site would or could do it every day all day
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 11:31 AM CST
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The time has come....just like the tanker business we have to start charing a washout fee to the rate. Not all inclusive

Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 01:45 PM CST
There is a clear and obvious pattern here, first the trucking industry developed a revolving door, next the restaurants at the truckstops developed a revolving door, then the truck washes developed a revolving door, and now we are watching the truck repair facilities become infected with the same disease, reputable shops many of whom are factory authorized, now have a shortage of help and a revolving door. Maybe some of you are willing to live on TV dinners out of your microwave, and drive around with road salt and grease on your equipment as it corrodes apart driving down the road, while you 1099 your company drivers, but how many of your drivers are willing to start turning their own wrenches at the rest areas, just to keep rates in the toilet?
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:50 PM CST
Angry today Dave like normal. You sure complain alot
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:51 PM CST
Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

Everywhere I washout at checks to make sure not full of crap. People just don't realize the drain in a wash bay is not s 6" sewer line with a pump in it. You just can't wash down a bunch of crap.
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:51 PM CST
Quote: "A fair amount of places won't let you climb in there and sweep out, even if you wanted too, and there's nothing better than seeing dead deer laying beside the road by the piles of grain someone swept out on the shoulder. I personally don't like seeing piles of fertilizer on the shoulders either....so that leaves the washout as the next logical place, right?"

No it does not. You can't do that. The water goes straight into rivers, fertilizer and all. Besides grain clogs up sewer lines. I always manage. I just find a place where it goes not matter. A dirt road by farms is fine for fertilizer. If you dump feed, sweep it up and pile it in the grass so critters can eat it. I also hate seeing grain dumped on the asphalt in the rest area or off ramp. If not a lot of crap, I open rato and torsos and just drive. Blows out dust and small stuff and no piles. But there should be a fed law requiring places to allow you to sweep out.
Replied on Fri, Feb 18, 2022 at 08:52 PM CST
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Quote: "We're closing our shop. Can't find employees. Art Pfluger"

No one wants to work. Gov made them all lazy, giving checks to stay home. If they cut off welfare for anyone that is able to work , this crap would end.
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:51 PM CST
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Quote: "Angry today Dave like normal. You sure complain alot"

Angry? No, disappointed that the idiots have about destroyed a once great industry? Absolutely, and I get the feeling that you are proud to contribute to its demise, you obviously think it’s all a big Joke even as news articles appear pointing out that shippers are now starting their own private fleets to try and counter the damage that some of you have done to the industry, but if you don’t like my opinions maybe you should stop reading and responding to them? Or does some mental disorder prevent you from doing that?
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:54 PM CST
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Quote: "No it does not. You can't do that. The water goes straight into rivers, fertilizer and all. Besides grain clogs up sewer lines. I always manage. I just find a place where it goes not matter. A dirt road by farms is fine for fertilizer. If you dump feed, sweep it up and pile it in the grass so critters can eat it. I also hate seeing grain dumped on the asphalt in the rest area or off ramp. If not a lot of crap, I open rato and torsos and just drive. Blows out dust and small stuff and no piles. But there should be a fed law requiring places to allow you to sweep out."

Marcus, washouts do NOT run that rinse water down the sewer. Or at least they aren't supposed to. It's illegal. Grease, oil, antifreeze, fertilizer, you name it, you can't dump it down the drain and that's why legitimate washouts re use their water.... and contain the sediment. I don't understand where a couple people (yourself included) think that dirty trailers cause failures for businesses that SPECIALIZE IN DIRTY TRAILERS
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:54 PM CST
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Quote: "Angry today Dave like normal. You sure complain alot"

I’ve noticed a pattern with you Eric, anytime you come on to the forum it’s generally to criticize others who are working to improve the industry by shining light on the toxic problems that the bad actors created.
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:54 PM CST
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Quote: "No it does not. You can't do that. The water goes straight into rivers, fertilizer and all. Besides grain clogs up sewer lines. I always manage. I just find a place where it goes not matter. A dirt road by farms is fine for fertilizer. If you dump feed, sweep it up and pile it in the grass so critters can eat it. I also hate seeing grain dumped on the asphalt in the rest area or off ramp. If not a lot of crap, I open rato and torsos and just drive. Blows out dust and small stuff and no piles. But there should be a fed law requiring places to allow you to sweep out."

I'd bet the person that mows the grass where you are dumping feed disagrees, and I'd bet the farmer that lives on the dirt road where you are dumping fertilizer isn't as ok with it as you are. Why don't you bring big containers with, sweep out into that and dump it in your driveway when you get home. Watch what that pile looks and smells like after a week or two in the summer. And as for the critters, how's their health after eating moldy grain that's sat out in the rain? There's a beautiful news article on bulk loads just this week about that situation.
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:56 PM CST
Ooppps When Diesel fuel price is over us$4.00/gal Every business start using Plan B
Replied on Sat, Feb 19, 2022 at 08:56 PM CST
Mo
Replied on Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 09:24 PM CST
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Well Dave when ever anyone sees a post from you they know it will be negative and alot of assumptions not real facts and just to stir the pot. May be you should worry more about your own surroundings then worry about everyone and what they are doing
Replied on Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 09:25 PM CST

Sold my hopper because of wash outs and and no body paying up for them. We had three truck wash's here in Springfield Illinois and now we have none. Company's will not accept a wash certifcate from the trucking company. I pulled hazmat tanks for eleven years for Dana and every tank went back to terminal and was cleaned and charged for it. The BULL SHIXX in the hopper business just blows me away. You haul chicken meal, you just need a rinse or even just blow it out, but haul meat and bone, and it's kept to your self. As a scale man at ADM told me, nobody ever hauls meat and bone or fertilizer!!!! In sixteen years pulling a hopper I only hauled two loads of meat and bone and five loads of fertilizer, it didn't pay enough for the hassle. Finally got tired of the four to eight hour waits for loading and unloading and no money, and then add in the ELD, I don't think it ever got off personal. Now just pull a dump, life is simple again!!

Replied on Sun, Feb 20, 2022 at 09:26 PM CST
I agree with Dave on this one. That's just my opinion. Businesses that pay a good wage have absolutely zero problems finding reliable help. To the people that think $24 per hour with some benefits is a good wage I have to ask if you are familiar with what a reliable house and a trustworthy car cost in the year 2022. Or just what it cost to raise a family in modern times. From my experience the people that think mid 20s is a good wage bought their house in 1992 and haven't had a kid living at home since 2004. I personally don't see anything wrong with us having the conversation about why the money isn't there to attract the people in some cases. I can't speak for others but I know I will personally wash trailers for the rest of my life until I retire for $34 an hour and full benefits, and if a washout can't afford to pay someone that then I go back to Dave's question about what is wrong with the industry that nobody can afford to pay anybody what it's required to get someone to show up. I also think blaming the government is the easy way out if the type of people you are looking for to work for you are the type of people willing to sit at home on free handouts thrn I don't feel bad for you . Cash is King this is America people should not have to work for free
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:55 AM CST
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Quote: "Go to Cargill and try to sweep out. They will ban you from all properties for violating safety rules of cargill. Some Purina locations are the same. So to say "deadbeats won't sweep out" should they just violate the rules and get banned? Then you're messing with someone's income."

Some cargil and Purina will let you but not the big ones in bigger cities. Wichita won't even let you poke your head under and see if all product came out. Most places I wash out at, and I do it often, are under 50 bucks. Some only 30.
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:55 AM CST
Quote: "Because washing trucks is not a good job nobody on this site would or could do it every day all day"

It is a rough job. Wet all day long is not fun. They probably don't make 8 bucks an hour. I had 1 guy in La washing out my trailer. Usually a couple guys are on it. I gave him a 20 buck tip.
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:55 AM CST
Quote: "Marcus, washouts do NOT run that rinse water down the sewer. Or at least they aren't supposed to. It's illegal. Grease, oil, antifreeze, fertilizer, you name it, you can't dump it down the drain and that's why legitimate washouts re use their water.... and contain the sediment. I don't understand where a couple people (yourself included) think that dirty trailers cause failures for businesses that SPECIALIZE IN DIRTY TRAILERS"

I assume it is same as a car or truck wash since they wash trucks in same bay as trailers. You may be referring to trailer wash out that do things like cattle trailers. They don't ho fine sewer. They have ponds as you stated. Truck washed that wash out trailers are no different than any other wash. That is why you can not ho get Hopper washed out if it has product in it.
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 07:55 AM CST
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Quote: "Marcus, washouts do NOT run that rinse water down the sewer. Or at least they aren't supposed to. It's illegal. Grease, oil, antifreeze, fertilizer, you name it, you can't dump it down the drain and that's why legitimate washouts re use their water.... and contain the sediment. I don't understand where a couple people (yourself included) think that dirty trailers cause failures for businesses that SPECIALIZE IN DIRTY TRAILERS"

Oh and I do not think k places that doevislize in dirty trailers are going out of business because of dirty trailers. I only commented on dirty trailers bring washed out st truck washes that also do trailers. They do not allow product because they have a sewer line, not a pond. The washes are no different than any other company. They need to make s good profit or they go under. They need good help. These days good help I'd hard to find in a world that refuses to recognize starter jobs like burger joint, is not a 100k s year job. It is a few bucks an hour. Younger people these days think their first job should be big money. No ladder to climb.
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 08:22 AM CST
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I notice something bad here in Florida Talking about out of business and closing trucks parking yard, here in Orange County I think this administration plan is push trucker out of this area because they are building a big city 10 trucks parking yard are closed now BTW they punishing the owners of the yard with big fines if the truck is sitting in the yard But how about the giant Landfill behind our house In rt417, and 528 smell bad I think this is the same people hate Cows and trying put a DPF in the rear end of the cow This administration is killing the truckers and everything the truck use to keep moving
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 02:53 PM CST
Quote: "Well Dave when ever anyone sees a post from you they know it will be negative and alot of assumptions not real facts and just to stir the pot. May be you should worry more about your own surroundings then worry about everyone and what they are doing"

I’m pretty sure it’s a fact that the fore mentioned truck washes all went out of business, and I’m pretty sure it’s a fact that it’s because of money, and I’m pretty sure it’s a fact that it’s affecting my business and that makes it my business, Now from what I can tell Eric you don’t even have authority, your just a Make believe trucking company, one who advocates for lowering the standards for the the rest of us, perhaps for the benefit of some big agricultural entity that wants to save money on transportation costs.
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 09:14 PM CST

Eric the DOT says that your company don't exist, here is what they show. SAFER WEB - Select Company (dot.gov)

Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 09:15 PM CST
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Matter of fact Dave I haven't pulled a hopper for probably 20 years so I guess we don't help the farm side they have there own. Trucks but iam not affiliated with them so I really don't no what they do not my deal
Replied on Mon, Feb 21, 2022 at 09:16 PM CST
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Remember Dave we are not the farm side. And the zumbrota truck center did not close over money. And I wish I could show you my work and rates you would not think I was for the down side of trucking if someone does not agree with you you get a little feisty. Iam leased to a company worked for them for 28 years. Not the ag side Dave trucking side. No and I don't have my own authority and it works for me very very well. If you need work Dave that pays better then yours I can set you up
Replied on Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 10:16 AM CST
Add Fred’s truck wash in Gilman Il to the list.Sign on door says temporarily closed due to staff shortage.
Replied on Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 03:42 PM CST
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Quote: "Remember Dave we are not the farm side. And the zumbrota truck center did not close over money. And I wish I could show you my work and rates you would not think I was for the down side of trucking if someone does not agree with you you get a little feisty. Iam leased to a company worked for them for 28 years. Not the ag side Dave trucking side. No and I don't have my own authority and it works for me very very well. If you need work Dave that pays better then yours I can set you up"

ERIC YOU NEED TO SEND DAVE A PARTICIPATION TROPHY. ITS JUST NOT FAIR! FOR THE RECORD I WATCHED YOU WORK MANY OF THOSE 28 YEARS. YOU HAVE EARNED EVERY SENT! BE PROUD!

Replied on Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 09:20 PM CST
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Quote: "Remember Dave we are not the farm side. And the zumbrota truck center did not close over money. And I wish I could show you my work and rates you would not think I was for the down side of trucking if someone does not agree with you you get a little feisty. Iam leased to a company worked for them for 28 years. Not the ag side Dave trucking side. No and I don't have my own authority and it works for me very very well. If you need work Dave that pays better then yours I can set you up"

Eric, you attack Dave every chance you get. Every time there is a conversation about industry annoyances or low rates, YOU are the one that gets bent out of shape and tries to shut the conversation down. You and I have talked on the phone about rates before and YOU told me how irritated you were with people like Dave saying to pass up low rates. Your words were something like "every one of us haul 1.50 and 1.80 freight and get by just fine" . I don't think most professional companies with the goal of earning a decent living share your opinion on that. I have nothing personal against you, I enjoyed chatting with you on the phone, but I don't understand where your animosity towards Dave's conversations comes from. It's just a conversation!! And I seem to remember you saying you stay relatively local....so why would you shut down conversation that us over the road truckers have? You don't see what we see. I see way more poverty in the united States than there should be, so conversations about money should be fair game. Speaking of money, how many businesses close for any reason other than not being profitable?
Replied on Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 09:20 PM CST
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Thank you chris
Replied on Tue, Feb 22, 2022 at 09:21 PM CST
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Quote: "ERIC YOU NEED TO SEND DAVE A PARTICIPATION TROPHY. ITS JUST NOT FAIR! FOR THE RECORD I WATCHED YOU WORK MANY OF THOSE 28 YEARS. YOU HAVE EARNED EVERY SENT! BE PROUD!"

Personally Mr. Stier I think rather than insulting me you should be thanking me, because as a taxpayer I am one of the people that has generously funded the $573,542.00 of farm subsidies you have received according to the farm subsidies database, perhaps you should spend less time on your trucking hobby and more time farming? Guys like myself wouldn’t need such high rates if we weren’t bailing folks like you out year after year.
Replied on Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:14 AM CST
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Never said 1.50. 1.80 was ok rate. Never have I said that Never. My rates are now were that low.
Replied on Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:14 AM CST
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Lots quit do to other reasons then money
Replied on Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 10:14 AM CST
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And the government subsidies it is what it is. We all would take it if we could but it just happens farmer's get it and legally I might add and to beat you to it Dave Hader farms got a lot. Our government set it up that way so it is what it is
Replied on Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 02:36 PM CST
Hey dale speaking of truck washes how long has westside truck wash been open? I just found it about a month ago after I found out stones had closed theirs
Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 08:05 AM CST
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Quote: "Personally Mr. Stier I think rather than insulting me you should be thanking me, because as a taxpayer I am one of the people that has generously funded the $573,542.00 of farm subsidies you have received according to the farm subsidies database, perhaps you should spend less time on your trucking hobby and more time farming? Guys like myself wouldn’t need such high rates if we weren’t bailing folks like you out year after year."

I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY SUBSIDIES FOR ANY BUSINESS. BUT WHEN EVERY OTHER FARMER ACROSS THE FENCE FROM ME IS GETTING ONE, WELL GUESS WHAT, I'M TAKING MINE ALSO! AND WITH SUBSIDIES GONE FOODSTAMPS NEED TO GO, WICK NEEDS TO GO, SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM NEEDS TO GO, MEALS ON WHEELS FOR OLD FOLKS NEEDS TO GO, SIMCAC NEEDS TO GO, IN OTHER WORDS DON'T BREED THEM IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM! AS FOR THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY YOU CLAIM THAT I HAVE TAKEN IT IS PENNIES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT I HAVE PAID TO THE IRS SINCE I HAVE FARMED AND THE COST OF MAINTAINING MACHINERY AND REPLACING MACHINES. WHEN FARMERS REPLACE MACHINERY AT TAX TIME OR ANY BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER IT KEEPS A LOT OF CITY PEOPLE EMPLOYED AT JOHN DEERE AND ALLIS CHALMERS! YOU SEEM TO HAVE THIS STUPID MENTALITY THAT A HUMAN BEING CAN ONLY GET AHEAD IF THEY WERE BORN INTO MONEY! THAT IS CLEARLY FOR FROM THE TRUTH FOR ERIC AND I AND THE MAN HE IS LEASED TO. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I WAS NEVER GIVEN A FARM! I GOT OFF MY REAREND AND HAD TO PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR IT AND I AM STILL PAYING THE BANK! THERE IS HUGE AMOUNT OF POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH HUGE FAT ASSES FROM ALL THE FOOD I HELPED GROW FOR THEM TO STUFF THERE FAT DAMN FACES!

Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 08:05 AM CST
They've been open a few years. It's a self serve wash. But you can go on his website and print out a wash certificate from the last 4 digits of the card you used. It's a good set up and they are super nice people.
Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 09:59 AM CST
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Quote: "I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY SUBSIDIES FOR ANY BUSINESS. BUT WHEN EVERY OTHER FARMER ACROSS THE FENCE FROM ME IS GETTING ONE, WELL GUESS WHAT, I'M TAKING MINE ALSO! AND WITH SUBSIDIES GONE FOODSTAMPS NEED TO GO, WICK NEEDS TO GO, SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM NEEDS TO GO, MEALS ON WHEELS FOR OLD FOLKS NEEDS TO GO, SIMCAC NEEDS TO GO, IN OTHER WORDS DON'T BREED THEM IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM! AS FOR THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY YOU CLAIM THAT I HAVE TAKEN IT IS PENNIES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT I HAVE PAID TO THE IRS SINCE I HAVE FARMED AND THE COST OF MAINTAINING MACHINERY AND REPLACING MACHINES. WHEN FARMERS REPLACE MACHINERY AT TAX TIME OR ANY BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER IT KEEPS A LOT OF CITY PEOPLE EMPLOYED AT JOHN DEERE AND ALLIS CHALMERS! YOU SEEM TO HAVE THIS STUPID MENTALITY THAT A HUMAN BEING CAN ONLY GET AHEAD IF THEY WERE BORN INTO MONEY! THAT IS CLEARLY FOR FROM THE TRUTH FOR ERIC AND I AND THE MAN HE IS LEASED TO. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I WAS NEVER GIVEN A FARM! I GOT OFF MY REAREND AND HAD TO PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR IT AND I AM STILL PAYING THE BANK! THERE IS HUGE AMOUNT OF POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH HUGE FAT ASSES FROM ALL THE FOOD I HELPED GROW FOR THEM TO STUFF THERE FAT DAMN FACES!"

So gratitude has now been replaced with a entitlement mentality? You pretend to be a self made man as you collect all those subsidies and go on bashing others for recieving food stamps, while you accumulate land and other assets? You praise Socialism for the wealthy, yet condemn it for the poor? You don't want to work for peanuts yet you expect others to, and when they dont you always resort to calling them names, like fat lazy and stupid? And then wonder why there is nobody to serve you at the truck stops? BTW John deer and Allis chalmers were around long before farm subsidies existed and did just fine without them, infact the average american even paid less for food before they existed.

Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 04:40 PM CST
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YOU SHOULD GO APPLY FOR THE GOVERNMENT SHRINK JOB! NO MATTER HOW MUCH YOU SUCK AT LIFE, YOU MIGHT STILL HAVE A JOB, AND BE ABLE TO COLLECT GOVERNMENT CASH!

Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 09:37 PM CST

Dave is zumbrota the town that has a small feed mill with a tank parked close by

Replied on Thu, Feb 24, 2022 at 09:37 PM CST
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Quote: "I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT THERE SHOULD NOT BE ANY SUBSIDIES FOR ANY BUSINESS. BUT WHEN EVERY OTHER FARMER ACROSS THE FENCE FROM ME IS GETTING ONE, WELL GUESS WHAT, I'M TAKING MINE ALSO! AND WITH SUBSIDIES GONE FOODSTAMPS NEED TO GO, WICK NEEDS TO GO, SCHOOL LUNCH PROGRAM NEEDS TO GO, MEALS ON WHEELS FOR OLD FOLKS NEEDS TO GO, SIMCAC NEEDS TO GO, IN OTHER WORDS DON'T BREED THEM IF YOU CAN'T FEED THEM! AS FOR THE AMOUNT OF SUBSIDY YOU CLAIM THAT I HAVE TAKEN IT IS PENNIES COMPARED TO THE AMOUNT I HAVE PAID TO THE IRS SINCE I HAVE FARMED AND THE COST OF MAINTAINING MACHINERY AND REPLACING MACHINES. WHEN FARMERS REPLACE MACHINERY AT TAX TIME OR ANY BUSINESS FOR THAT MATTER IT KEEPS A LOT OF CITY PEOPLE EMPLOYED AT JOHN DEERE AND ALLIS CHALMERS! YOU SEEM TO HAVE THIS STUPID MENTALITY THAT A HUMAN BEING CAN ONLY GET AHEAD IF THEY WERE BORN INTO MONEY! THAT IS CLEARLY FOR FROM THE TRUTH FOR ERIC AND I AND THE MAN HE IS LEASED TO. AND JUST FOR THE RECORD I WAS NEVER GIVEN A FARM! I GOT OFF MY REAREND AND HAD TO PAY TOP DOLLAR FOR IT AND I AM STILL PAYING THE BANK! THERE IS HUGE AMOUNT OF POOR PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY WITH HUGE FAT ASSES FROM ALL THE FOOD I HELPED GROW FOR THEM TO STUFF THERE FAT DAMN FACES!"

This one made me laugh. Nope, most of the crops you raise don't feed anyone. Mmmmmm...my favorite meal, pioneer 9917 on the cob. Why don't you lay out for us how much you've paid in taxes vs how much you've got back. I used to make that exact same argument. Exactly the same!!! Then I added up all the numbers! Everything agricultural is tax exempt. Agriculture is a broken system and always will be. Taking the subsidies just because the neighbors do is insane. Choosing to be part of a non profitable industry is insane. Every farmer could quit producing for a year and NOBODY would starve. Except for the beef side of agriculture. Grain is a giant glut of overproduction thanks to subsidies. So I'll patiently wait for the numbers from you to show that you've paid in more than you received. I'd also bet the numbers Dave found do not include your CSP payments, crop insurance, equip, or any other programs you might be enrolled in. I also consider anyone that claims to be a self made man a total liar. Nobody gets by without help of some sort.
Replied on Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 07:39 AM CST
Quote: "Dave is zumbrota the town that has a small feed mill with a tank parked close by"

Well if you come into town from the north end you will see some type of plant on the left side with tanks parked by it on the left side of the road, and shortly after that you will see a exit ramp with a Casey’s on the left. You don’t really see much of the town from Hwy 52.
Replied on Fri, Feb 25, 2022 at 11:31 AM CST
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Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

Oh yes here’s Captain Commodity guy….. I’m not sure if you’ve read all the same signs everyone else has, but a good number of facilities will ban you for getting inside your trailer. Most don’t provide an air wand or catwalk either. If you get caught dumping on the side of the road that’s also a hefty fine. Then there’s the truck-stop parking lot that so many of you Captain Commodity Karen’s like to put on blast over there on FB. Am I missing the part about how you guys do a lot of talk, but you never give any detailed explanation of how awesome you are at being Captain Commodity, and how Captain Commodity does things? These washouts that complain about having to deal with what comes out of your trailer are trash. Sorry, but that like me complaining about dealing with oil changes, tires, upkeep, or any general maintenance on my truck. It’s called “cost of doing business.”
Replied on Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 08:22 AM CST
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It's a kwik.trip and super America
Replied on Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:42 AM CST
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Quote: "Wash out prices have skyrocketed. I'm at my wits end one everyone jacking up prices and providing shit services. Our cost go up dollars and rates pennies. I'm getting ready to park again, or hook back onto a reefer."

Michael you Nailed it!! ... Case & Point Bud! ... Brother Truckers in just the past year or so depending on where you go & whose Service you use? ... Their Prices have doubled plus ... I remember when Blue Beacon's prices were generally $55 to $60 range? ... And you actually got a decent wash for your $$$ & frame (inside) & engine were all inclusive ... Nowadays Frame .. Axle & Engine are itemized? ... I've paid as much as $205 to have my Rig done? ... And Again Quality! ... Not Quantity! ... They're trying to Slam 'em through in a production style of doing things & by doing so the Truck gets a Poor Quality Job for the $$$ ... Unfortunately Beacon is Nationwide & Not All are Bad & and are Excessible ... These Companies can afford to pay their Employees? ... I don't know where He comes up with idea? ... Nationwide everyone is looking for Help ... But when you have a corrupt & totally dysfunctional Leftist Government printing $$$ & throwing it at So many?! ... Basically paying them to stay home? ... These Borderline Minimum Wagers aren't gonna be there! ... So like many more Government Ploys to Break the Economy ... Stimulus My A double SS! ... I like so many of you are all over the Country ... I see Buisnesses that look relatively new? ... Boarded up & Out of Buisness? ... Ohh n let us not forget the "Scamdemic!" ... Throw that into thee Equation & You have the perfect recipe for disaster! ... It alone has put more Buisnesses under! ... A Real Bad Pair to Draw To! ... I've always paid what the Wash Services have wanted ... mind you I'm out there watching & scrutinizing their efforts ... I've earned that Right paying the prices they require & I have alot of $$$ & Pride & Polish in My '08 Pete 389 ... I don't mean to get political here but you can Thank the Left & the current administration for All these Jacked Up Outta Sight Prices that have but All Flatlined Our Economy ... Just look at Prices at the Pump! ... OIL dictates that! ... Everything we have is a product of Petroleum in some measure ... it's disheartening to watch n live ... But until we all do something about & stop talking about it!? ... It's a Big Shit Sandwich & We're All gonna take a Bite! ... Simple Science ... Thats All I've Got for Now! ... But when the Gentleman threw out that crass ass comment about "All Us Truckers!" ... I call BULLSHIT on That! ... We didn't create this ... We are Victim of Circumstance just like any other Working Class Stiff! ... God Bless & God Help Us All!~

Mark A. Smith

~M&H TRANSPORT LLC~

Alpine, Wyoming USA

Replied on Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 10:48 AM CST
We are the fringe element.
Replied on Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 03:38 PM CST
Quote: "Angry? No, disappointed that the idiots have about destroyed a once great industry? Absolutely, and I get the feeling that you are proud to contribute to its demise, you obviously think it’s all a big Joke even as news articles appear pointing out that shippers are now starting their own private fleets to try and counter the damage that some of you have done to the industry, but if you don’t like my opinions maybe you should stop reading and responding to them? Or does some mental disorder prevent you from doing that?"

Dave I'll just have to say that I've been following your latest responses here & I have to say that I find that you are the "True meaning of Ignorance is Bliss" ... As I said in my response earlier this has all escalated from Leftist Government Overrach & Mandates Super Imposed on us all ... It's Right there plain as day ... And it's a domino affect ... Set to keep us wound up & at each other's throat pointing the finger in the wrong place ... At each other ... Agree to Disagree ... it's a futile up hill battle ... but there is a solution for everything if we work together by using what God gave us! ... United We Stand! ... Divided We Fall! ... This is What the Left wants & it's apparent to me here I'm seeing it unfold first hand ... Let's pull it together Bruddah & Take the Fight to them ... God Bless All Our Brethren in Canada & Our Patriots in & Headed to DC!~

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:24 PM CST
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I did not know after 41 years of trucking that truck washes cost just what I could afford. I always paid what they charged.

So if they can not afford to pay thier help it is thier fault of mis managment

Dont insult the truckers and trucking companies.

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:24 PM CST
Quote: "The reason washouts are closing is because of deadbeats that don't sweep out their trailers where they unload "

So that makes since. If you dont sweep out, that causes the washout to go out of buisness.

What!

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:43 PM CST
Quote: "You would have to talk to them about that, but from what I remember they couldn’t keep help around, the last year I did business there you could see a downward spiral, one time the help quit in the middle of my wash, and the owner himself had to finish the job, shortly after that they closed, and if I recall correctly Lakeville was the next one to shut the Doors, probably around 2016. All these truck washes followed the same pattern prior to their demise, just like the mom and pop truck stops that preceded them. All the other truck washes I mentioned have closed in the past year."

That still doesnt have nothing to do with the trucker

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 02:43 PM CST
Quote: "A fair amount of places won't let you climb in there and sweep out, even if you wanted too, and there's nothing better than seeing dead deer laying beside the road by the piles of grain someone swept out on the shoulder. I personally don't like seeing piles of fertilizer on the shoulders either....so that leaves the washout as the next logical place, right?"

And that has to do with what, when it comes to them going out of buisness?

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:46 PM CST

Truck wash in Urbana, IA is closed. I heard a rumor that Belmont Travel Center in WI may be closing.

Replied on Tue, Mar 01, 2022 at 09:46 PM CST
Quote: "And that has to do with what, when it comes to them going out of buisness?"

I'm not seeing where I ever said that a dirty trailer has anything to do with a washout going out of business. I'm pretty sure I made it super duper clear that I disagreed with that statement. I even made a super sweet body shop comparison....
Replied on Wed, Mar 02, 2022 at 10:44 AM CST
Quote: "I did not know after 41 years of trucking that truck washes cost just what I could afford. I always paid what they charged. So if they can not afford to pay thier help it is thier fault of mis managment Dont insult the truckers and trucking companies."

A business will raise the cost of their product up until the point where sales drop off, therefore the market is determined by what the customer is willing to pay, and in this case the truckers are the customers. But if you believe that you the business owner sets the rates maybe you should tell your broker you need $15.00@ mile and will not accept anything less? I’m willing to bet you will be sitting at home a lot after that, but it’s just my opinion.
Replied on Thu, Mar 03, 2022 at 08:25 AM CST
Quote: "A business will raise the cost of their product up until the point where sales drop off, therefore the market is determined by what the customer is willing to pay, and in this case the truckers are the customers. But if you believe that you the business owner sets the rates maybe you should tell your broker you need $15.00@ mile and will not accept anything less? I’m willing to bet you will be sitting at home a lot after that, but it’s just my opinion."

Or you can price yourself at $1.50 per mile and be busier than hell.

Replied on Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 01:11 AM CST
Quote: "The time has come....just like the tanker business we have to start charing a washout fee to the rate. Not all inclusive "

You mean you don't?
Replied on Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 01:39 PM CST
Quote: "A fair amount of places won't let you climb in there and sweep out, even if you wanted too, and there's nothing better than seeing dead deer laying beside the road by the piles of grain someone swept out on the shoulder. I personally don't like seeing piles of fertilizer on the shoulders either....so that leaves the washout as the next logical place, right?"

If you don't have your own broom maybe you should buy one. You can sweep out your trailer at truck stop and use the trash receptacles for the dry load refuse. I've had many people asking to use my broom. Finally said no after I had to clean mine after they used it. Buy your own broom

Replied on Sat, Mar 19, 2022 at 08:28 PM CST
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Quote: "If you don't have your own broom maybe you should buy one. You can sweep out your trailer at truck stop and use the trash receptacles for the dry load refuse. I've had many people asking to use my broom. Finally said no after I had to clean mine after they used it. Buy your own broom"

I'm confused. Are you bragging on the internet that people borrow your broom? What does that fact that you think you are the ONLY bulk trucker with a broom have to do with 1. Loads that require a washout and 2. People thinking a dirty trailer is a problem for washouts? And 3. What does your "greatest broom on earth" have to do with treating other people's property with respect by not dumping your stuff on it? Lastly number 4. What would posses you to think I have no broom or don't clean out my trailer just because I disagree with dumping your crap anywhere you see fit? How heavy is that garbage bag after you dump your bulk clean out in it? Does the bag tear when you help them empty that trash bag with your 50 pounds in it? I'm gunna guess you don't help do you? Have a good one Stan, you're my favorite character on south park!
Replied on Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 08:53 AM CST

.Comment was made about not being loaded because of a dirty trailer. If you're having a bad day, take a chill pill.

Replied on Sun, Mar 20, 2022 at 08:53 AM CST
Quote: ".Comment was made about not being loaded because of a dirty trailer. If you're having a bad day, take a chill pill. "

Oh,BTW, my last comment was for you Dale.

Have a nice day.

Replied on Mon, Mar 21, 2022 at 08:54 AM CST
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Quote: "Oh,BTW, my last comment was for you Dale. Have a nice day. "

Goodness no I'm not having a bad day. You commented about sweeping out your trailer at a truck stop, and commented about me needing to get a broom. I just addressed those comments in my reply to you. All of us have a broom, and most people don't sweep out their trailers at truck stops. I don't see where you said anything about not getting loaded? Maybe I misunderstood or maybe you're backpedaling? Either way, I'm not wound up about it Stan. It's just my personal opinion that's it's disrespectful to clean out a trailer on someone else's property unless they happen to be ok with it. Almost every place I've been to for fertilizer has a designated clean out area, livestock facilities have always let me clean out right where I unload.... and as for the big grain places that don't let people climb up and clean out? Well I don't go there because they don't pay enough, but if people properly maintain their trailer, I don't see a reason that regular old grain should hang up in there in the first place, and if a shipper requires a washout, well a broom is irrelevant.
Replied on Sat, May 14, 2022 at 10:54 AM CST

Many truckers are bankrupt now because inflation is rising in the country, gasoline prices are rising, and the global crisis is coming. Almost every business is suffering great losses now, some of my friends have gone bankrupt, and in the hope of restarting it, they are turning to insolvency practitioners. I own a small gas station in the village, and it's getting harder to buy fuel. I put a lower price than my competitors, and it attracts most customers, but I'm not sure it will be safe for my profits in the future.

Replied on Sun, May 15, 2022 at 11:02 PM CST
Quote: "No one wants to work. Gov made them all lazy, giving checks to stay home. If they cut off welfare for anyone that is able to work , this crap would end."

That has nothing to do with anything. Unemployment numbers are back to pre pandemic levels. What changed is people realized that working for 8 dollars an hour was dumb if they could get 20 dollars an hour at Amazon. That's where the minimum wage workers went. I personally don't blame them.
Replied on Mon, May 16, 2022 at 04:14 PM CST

I think everyone needs to bring it on in for a group 🤗

Replied on Mon, May 16, 2022 at 09:43 PM CST
Quote: "Many truckers are bankrupt now because inflation is rising in the country, gasoline prices are rising, and the global crisis is coming. Almost every business is suffering great losses now, some of my friends have gone bankrupt, and in the hope of restarting it, they are turning to insolvency practitioners. I own a small gas station in the village, and it's getting harder to buy fuel. I put a lower price than my competitors, and it attracts most customers, but I'm not sure it will be safe for my profits in the future."

I HAD TWO FRIENDS BACK IN THE EARLY 1990'S ONE OF THEM OWNED A GAS STATION SERVICE GARAGE WHERE HE DID MOST ALL TYPE OF CAR MAINTENANCE. HE TOLD ME HE WAS LUCKY TO MAKE A DIME PROFIT ON GAS IS THAT TRUE? HE TOLD ME THE GAS WAS MORE OF A LURE TO GET PEOPLES CARS IN HIS SHOP FOR REPAIRS. HIS YOUNGER BROTHER AND OLDER FATHER PUMPED THE GAS AND WOULD USUALLY FIND THINGS ON PEOPLES VEHICLES THAT NEEDED REPAIRS OR OIL CHANGES AND ASK THE PEOPLE IF THEY WANTED TO BRING IT BACK FOR REPAIRS. THE OTHER FRIEND OWNED A CONVIENT STORE AND HE TOLD ME THE SAME THING ABOUT A DIME PROFIT. HE SAID HIS MAIN MONEY WAS SELLING SODA POP AND OTHER SNACKS AND PIZZA COOKED AND READY TO GO SANDWICHES. THERE IS ALSO A BAR A LIQUOR STORE ACROSS THE STREET FROM HIS CONVIENT STORE SO THAT MAYBE HELPS HIS CUSTOMER BASE SOME ALSO.

Replied on Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 12:13 PM CST
Quote: "A fair amount of places won't let you climb in there and sweep out, even if you wanted too, and there's nothing better than seeing dead deer laying beside the road by the piles of grain someone swept out on the shoulder. I personally don't like seeing piles of fertilizer on the shoulders either....so that leaves the washout as the next logical place, right?"

For God's sake. DON'T, go to a truck stop or some place and do what you gotta do and pick up after yourself instead of leaving it on the ground. There are trash cans around.

Can't never did nothing.

Replied on Mon, Aug 08, 2022 at 09:01 PM CST
Quote: "We're closing our shop. Can't find employees. Art Pfluger"

Art, I was sorry to see that you may be closing your shop. Understandable, though, if you can not find help. Although I miss the Cave Creek / Phoenix area a lot, the water situation scares me now. Especiallly after reading about Pine and Strawberry.

Best of luck to you. Jerry