Pay up$$$$$. Detention

Nov 07, 2017 at 09:01 PM CST + 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Anybody not charging Detention fees? Brokers aren't to blame, but several shippers and end customers, would rather make hoppers sit around and be their onsite storage due to the inefficiency of their facilities. We have several locations we will no longer haul from or to. More than two hours to load or unload is unacceptable. My drivers time is worth more, and I sure as heck don't make money sitting around.

Replied on Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:36 AM CST + 4
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. you make a great point , but before you jump on the pay me pay me band wagon , are you willing to sign contracts with all your shippers and recievers to be paid the hourly cost of your operation and convert to appointment times as well as also agree to that if you are late regrdless of the reason that you pay the shipper the hourly cost of thier operation. I'm all for demurage , detention and the accessorals , bt it has to be a fair agreement not just a you pay me thing and also if they are operating on first come first serve no appointments basis then you are taking your chances and should know tht going in...... now before you say hell yes i would do it keep in mind while your operating expense may be 100 bucks an hour thiers may be 10 times or more that. so for all the times you win it could quite possibly only take you one time to lose and lose big......

Replied on Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:36 AM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

you make a great point , but before you jump on the pay me pay me band wagon , are you willing to sign contracts with all your shippers and recievers to be paid the hourly cost of your operation and convert to appointment times as well as also agree to that if you are late regrdless of the reason that you pay the shipper the hourly cost of thier operation. I'm all for demurage , detention and the accessorals , bt it has to be a fair agreement not just a you pay me thing and also if they are operating on first come first serve no appointments basis then you are taking your chances and should know tht going in...... now before you say hell yes i would do it keep in mind while your operating expense may be 100 bucks an hour thiers may be 10 times or more that. so for all the times you win it could quite possibly only take you one time to lose and lose big......

Replied on Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 12:41 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. First 2 hours free, 65/hour for each hour after, no cap. If you know it is a place that will screw you around, make sure that it is writen in your load confirmation exactly how you want it and then there is no ambiguity. Take your time when negotiating rates and make sure you have all your eyes crossed and t's dotted!

Replied on Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:55 PM CST + 1
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. Quote: "you make a great point , but before you jump on the pay me pay me band wagon , are you willing to sign contracts with all your shippers and recievers to be paid the hourly cost of your operation and convert to appointment times as well as also agree to that if you are late regrdless of the reason that you pay the shipper the hourly cost of thier operation. I'm all for demurage , detention and the accessorals , bt it has to be a fair agreement not just a you pay me thing and also if they are operating on first come first serve no appointments basis then you are taking your chances and should know tht going in...... now before you say hell yes i would do it keep in mind while your operating expense may be 100 bucks an hour thiers may be 10 times or more that. so for all the times you win it could quite possibly only take you one time to lose and lose big......" YES YOU ARE VERY RIGHT IN WHAT YOU SAY. I USED TO HAUL RAW VEGETABLES IN A END DUMP FOR SOME CANNING COMPANIES, MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS SWEETCORN AND PEAS. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS PERISHABLE PRODUCT AND CAN SPOIL AND GO BAD QUICKLY IN 85 DEGREE AND ABOVE HUMID TEMPERATURES IN SUMMER. IF MY TRUCK DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE PLANT FOR PROCESSING I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LOAD. I WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUT 6 TIMES MORE THAN WHAT THE FARMER WOULD HAVE RECEIVED PER TON ON THE VEGETABLES. MEANING I WOULD HAVE TO OUT THE THE THE SAME PRICE THEY HAVE IN IT AFTER CANNED AND PACKAGED. THE SAME MIGHT APPLY TO SOME PEOPLE THAT HAUL LIVESTOCK AND THE ANIMALS CAN NOT BE SLAUGHTERED. I'M JUST SAYING BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU SIGN A CONTRACT THAT THEY CAN'T TURN THE TABLES BACK ON YOU! BUT YES I DO ALSO AGREE SITTING AT A SHIPPER OR RECEIVER OVER 2 HOURS IS TOTALLY WRONG AND YOU SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR IT!

Replied on Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 08:55 PM CST

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Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

Quote: "you make a great point , but before you jump on the pay me pay me band wagon , are you willing to sign contracts with all your shippers and recievers to be paid the hourly cost of your operation and convert to appointment times as well as also agree to that if you are late regrdless of the reason that you pay the shipper the hourly cost of thier operation. I'm all for demurage , detention and the accessorals , bt it has to be a fair agreement not just a you pay me thing and also if they are operating on first come first serve no appointments basis then you are taking your chances and should know tht going in...... now before you say hell yes i would do it keep in mind while your operating expense may be 100 bucks an hour thiers may be 10 times or more that. so for all the times you win it could quite possibly only take you one time to lose and lose big......"

YES YOU ARE VERY RIGHT IN WHAT YOU SAY. I USED TO HAUL RAW VEGETABLES IN A END DUMP FOR SOME CANNING COMPANIES, MOST OF THE TIME IT WAS SWEETCORN AND PEAS. KEEP IN MIND THIS IS PERISHABLE PRODUCT AND CAN SPOIL AND GO BAD QUICKLY IN 85 DEGREE AND ABOVE HUMID TEMPERATURES IN SUMMER. IF MY TRUCK DID NOT MAKE IT TO THE PLANT FOR PROCESSING I WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT LOAD. I WOULD HAVE TO PAY OUT 6 TIMES MORE THAN WHAT THE FARMER WOULD HAVE RECEIVED PER TON ON THE VEGETABLES. MEANING I WOULD HAVE TO OUT THE THE THE SAME PRICE THEY HAVE IN IT AFTER CANNED AND PACKAGED. THE SAME MIGHT APPLY TO SOME PEOPLE THAT HAUL LIVESTOCK AND THE ANIMALS CAN NOT BE SLAUGHTERED. I'M JUST SAYING BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN YOU SIGN A CONTRACT THAT THEY CAN'T TURN THE TABLES BACK ON YOU! BUT YES I DO ALSO AGREE SITTING AT A SHIPPER OR RECEIVER OVER 2 HOURS IS TOTALLY WRONG AND YOU SHOULD BE COMPENSATED FOR IT!

Replied on Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 07:58 AM CST
Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.	Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member. good points..unless you are dealing with firt come first serve companies... but i have seen and heard all sides of the pay me argument and for the most oart it 99.5% all about me me me its extremely seldom you see an argument for a level playing field. in any business if you are not profitable on the basic then the accessorials in most cases are not going to help either....

Replied on Thu, Nov 09, 2017 at 07:58 AM CST

Posted by a private BulkLoads.com member.

good points..unless you are dealing with firt come first serve companies... but i have seen and heard all sides of the pay me argument and for the most oart it 99.5% all about me me me its extremely seldom you see an argument for a level playing field. in any business if you are not profitable on the basic then the accessorials in most cases are not going to help either....