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Dec 09, 2017 at 02:36 AM CST
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when are the rates going to go up in the bulk industry, whether it's in a hopper or dump trailer. I have friends that pull reefer and or stepdeck and flatbed. they all have said they have seen a significant rate increase in the rates. I guess my question is why aren't we seeing it in what we all do? What is the answer to get the rates up to where they belong and what we all deserve? I just think it's sad we have to gross out and make less $ then thoughs that haul 20,000 lbs + or - you all know what i mean and make twice as much as we do for the same miles ran. Am I the only one who thinks this is not right?
Replied on Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 08:44 AM CST
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I don't know if we will. You don't see reefers and dry vans, floating down the river on barges....Our rates are based on competition from the rail road, and river barges..... Rates have gone up some, in other markets, but that is normal in a healthy economy, especially around Christmas, so I feel it has nothing to do with E-logs. The market can't give you, what's not there. There will soon be a lot of disappointed drivers out there, when they find out santa's bag is empty..... In the 60's and 70's, truckers could make good money, becuase the shippers had money, as it had not been shipped out of the country to china yet. Today all major retailers are dropping like flies, sears, Jc penny, k- Mart, Etc.... Even Walmart closed two hundred stores this year, and tried to blame it on amazon. Low interest is the only thing keeping stuff going, but that will be coming to a end soon.
Replied on Sat, Dec 09, 2017 at 11:22 AM CST
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The question I have, Is what will the megga carriers be hauling, when world war 3 starts, and nothing is coming out of China? Trump has found a way to side step congress, by getting Japan and South Korea to throw the first punch, on our behalf. And by putting our embassy in Jerusalem, he has created a situation with Iran, that will make the United Nations look weak, and irrelevant.
Replied on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:23 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "The question I have, Is what will the megga carriers be hauling, when world war 3 starts, and nothing is coming out of China? Trump has found a way to side step congress, by getting Japan and South Korea to throw the first punch, on our behalf. And by putting our embassy in Jerusalem, he has created a situation with Iran, that will make the United Nations look weak, and irrelevant. "

Dave you are so stupid. Why are you worried about mega carriers?just haul freight that makes you money and don’t worry about the rest of them
Replied on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:39 PM CST
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To many trucks cutting all the rates... If they'd stop cutting rates to get an extra load or 2 we'd all make more money...
Replied on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 10:51 PM CST
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Originally Posted by: CHAD MURPHY
Quote: "Dave you are so stupid. Why are you worried about mega carriers?just haul freight that makes you money and don’t worry about the rest of them"

Well Chad, I was minding my own business, hauling the freight that makes me money... And then the megga's stuck there nose in my business, and tried to screw stuff up, for all us little guys, so I Now pay attention to what they are doing. In my opinion only a idiot would look the other way, after someone sucker punched them. Bulk rates may suck right now, but don't think for one moment, that the megga's won't go after it, if that's the only work left in the market, when everything turns to shit. The stock market is at an all time high right now, well history tells us that high highs, are followed by low lows......With all of banks getting stiffed by the farmers right now, we could see another financial meltdown just like 2008. You can attack the messenger all you want, but it won't change the outcome.
Replied on Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 11:26 PM CST
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Now if you truly want to talk about stupidity, let's look at this... In the market you represent one of two things, to the megga's. You are either labor, or competition...... Well why would someone do anything that makes their competitor more successful? Well the megga's have some of you guys running around, believing that E-Logs will make you more profitable, and that money will now magically fall from the sky......And that the shippers will suddenly be more profitable, and turn into santa clause.
Replied on Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 09:41 AM CST
I've got a truck running reefer now, while I have the others still hauling sand in hoppers. I am NOT impressed with the reefer freight at all. We did this in order to test the reefer market vs the hoppers.
Replied on Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 08:53 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: EDD MCGILL
Quote: "I've got a truck running reefer now, while I have the others still hauling sand in hoppers. I am NOT impressed with the reefer freight at all. We did this in order to test the reefer market vs the hoppers."

I tried the same thing years ago. It was ....ok. But with some added costs, I didn't see anything spectacular. Some of that is .....just being hooked up well. I have seen trying to move from one type of trucking to another is a sketchy thing....at least it was for me. Happy Dumping fellas.
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 01:02 AM CST
I'm not trying to stir the pot. whatever the case might be for the rates the way they are then fine. if the rates are determined by rail rates or barge rates then fine. My thoughts then let them get it by rail or barge. but when they need us because they don't get there product, then I say stick it to them. Make them pay for not using us. My thoughts are they could use us all the time at a reasonable rate so we were all happy instead of that rail or barge rate excuse. especally when I think we are all more reliable then the rail and barges. any positive comments welcome. thank you for your time.
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 07:00 AM CST
Originally Posted by: VAN HOCK
Quote: "I'm not trying to stir the pot. whatever the case might be for the rates the way they are then fine. if the rates are determined by rail rates or barge rates then fine. My thoughts then let them get it by rail or barge. but when they need us because they don't get there product, then I say stick it to them. Make them pay for not using us. My thoughts are they could use us all the time at a reasonable rate so we were all happy instead of that rail or barge rate excuse. especally when I think we are all more reliable then the rail and barges. any positive comments welcome. thank you for your time."

If you are unhappy, seek greener pastures. Somebody must be happy, otherwise they wouldn't do it... Right??
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 07:12 AM CST
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Originally Posted by: VAN HOCK
Quote: "I'm not trying to stir the pot. whatever the case might be for the rates the way they are then fine. if the rates are determined by rail rates or barge rates then fine. My thoughts then let them get it by rail or barge. but when they need us because they don't get there product, then I say stick it to them. Make them pay for not using us. My thoughts are they could use us all the time at a reasonable rate so we were all happy instead of that rail or barge rate excuse. especally when I think we are all more reliable then the rail and barges. any positive comments welcome. thank you for your time."

You asked a very fair question, and you make a very good point. I have come to the conclusion, that none of us are supposed to succeed. The government is doing everything in their power to hold rates down, just look at all of these exemptions they have handed out. And at the same time, they are working with the megga's, to drive down the productivity of all us small guys. The game is rigged against us, we are not supposed to win.
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 04:45 PM CST
The U.N. is alreay weak and hasnt been worth a lead penny ever!! The enemy has grown strong under the ass clown obamas do nothing liberal bullshit!! The world is in a whole lot of trouble and it is coming, History is the future and it is going to repeat itself!! The ELD laws are written wrong and is going to cause alot of small carriers to go by the way side!! Sad of what the goverment of liberal fools have gotten to this point!!!
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 08:48 PM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF CARRITT
Quote: "The U.N. is alreay weak and hasnt been worth a lead penny ever!! The enemy has grown strong under the ass clown obamas do nothing liberal bullshit!! The world is in a whole lot of trouble and it is coming, History is the future and it is going to repeat itself!! The ELD laws are written wrong and is going to cause alot of small carriers to go by the way side!! Sad of what the goverment of liberal fools have gotten to this point!!!"

The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants, for it is its natural manure.
Replied on Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 09:25 PM CST
Originally Posted by: JEFF CARRITT
Quote: "The U.N. is alreay weak and hasnt been worth a lead penny ever!! The enemy has grown strong under the ass clown obamas do nothing liberal bullshit!! The world is in a whole lot of trouble and it is coming, History is the future and it is going to repeat itself!! The ELD laws are written wrong and is going to cause alot of small carriers to go by the way side!! Sad of what the goverment of liberal fools have gotten to this point!!!"

I would like to add, that you sir are a great American.