Rates/Relationships

Aug 16, 2019 at 11:06 AM CST + 18
BRAD FETTER FETTER & SON FARMS LLC MORRAL, OH 47 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	BRAD FETTER FETTER & SON FARMS LLC - MORRAL, OH This is just my Venting/Opinion: I know how tight the Dry Bulk rates are, we are a Non-Haz Ag-Carrier of Liquid loads. Lately several Brokers/Load Originators are asking for trucking rates to go down like $4-600/load on 685 miles. Plus you still have to take the wash off which for Tanks is roughly $150-$220 depending on where you go. Business is Business I understand that but when you have handled certain lanes for years it is hard to swallow. Again not starting a Bashing session I just wanted to Vent and voice my opinion. Couldn't we all stand together as Trucks/Drivers and Dispatchers and do our best to match the same rates? Competition I understand, but why go lower when you could better yourself?? Take the loads from each other (we are a broker also) ( several compines are the same Carrier/Brokers) and make as much or more?? Things are alwys tight and hard to make a buck $$$ maybe work together at times and benefit everybody...It helps at times to work with your Competitors like it or not! Thanks For listening be safe out there.

Aug 16, 2019 at 11:06 AM CST

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BRAD FETTER

FETTER & SON FARMS LLC

MORRAL, OH

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BRAD FETTER

FETTER & SON FARMS LLC - MORRAL, OH

This is just my Venting/Opinion: I know how tight the Dry Bulk rates are, we are a Non-Haz Ag-Carrier of Liquid loads. Lately several Brokers/Load Originators are asking for trucking rates to go down like $4-600/load on 685 miles. Plus you still have to take the wash off which for Tanks is roughly $150-$220 depending on where you go. Business is Business I understand that but when you have handled certain lanes for years it is hard to swallow. Again not starting a Bashing session I just wanted to Vent and voice my opinion. Couldn't we all stand together as Trucks/Drivers and Dispatchers and do our best to match the same rates? Competition I understand, but why go lower when you could better yourself?? Take the loads from each other (we are a broker also) ( several compines are the same Carrier/Brokers) and make as much or more?? Things are alwys tight and hard to make a buck $$$ maybe work together at times and benefit everybody...It helps at times to work with your Competitors like it or not!

Thanks For listening be safe out there.

Replied on Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 08:49 AM CST + 7 - 1
JUSTIN SIMMONS SIMMONS TRUCKING Supply, NC 8 Posts, 8 +, 1 -	JUSTIN SIMMONS SIMMONS TRUCKING - Supply, NC The best thing not to do is fall off on your rates. Shippers are just as bad as brokers and the only ones really losing money is us as truckers. Personally, I'm tired of sob stories. This is business. I got one to maintain like you do and with costs going up continuously but yet these brokers want you to stop doing what you're doing and drop back to rates from 1964, it's 2019. Screw that. Biggest thing is everyone needs to be educated on what it takes to run a truck and make money and pay a driver whether it be you or the man/ woman you got in your equipment a good wage. One thing I've found that with all the poor mouthing that goes on, if they need it moved bad Enough they'll pay. The only reason they're dropping rates is cause some dummy undercut the price. My 2 cents

Replied on Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 08:49 AM CST

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JUSTIN SIMMONS

SIMMONS TRUCKING

Supply, NC

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JUSTIN SIMMONS

SIMMONS TRUCKING - Supply, NC

The best thing not to do is fall off on your rates. Shippers are just as bad as brokers and the only ones really losing money is us as truckers. Personally, I'm tired of sob stories. This is business. I got one to maintain like you do and with costs going up continuously but yet these brokers want you to stop doing what you're doing and drop back to rates from 1964, it's 2019. Screw that. Biggest thing is everyone needs to be educated on what it takes to run a truck and make money and pay a driver whether it be you or the man/ woman you got in your equipment a good wage. One thing I've found that with all the poor mouthing that goes on, if they need it moved bad Enough they'll pay. The only reason they're dropping rates is cause some dummy undercut the price. My 2 cents

Replied on Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 09:32 AM CST + 1 - 1
PETE WENGER PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC Elkton, KY 83 Posts, 2 +, 1 -	PETE WENGER PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC - Elkton, KY Well I did see Schneider dragging tankers. It wasn't that long ago that started. Also JB Hunt dragging steel scrap dump trailers, chicken trailers. Guess they need another basket to put some eggs in.

Replied on Sun, Aug 18, 2019 at 09:32 AM CST

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PETE WENGER

PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC

Elkton, KY

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PETE WENGER

PETE WENGER TRUCKING LLC - Elkton, KY

Well I did see Schneider dragging tankers. It wasn't that long ago that started. Also JB Hunt dragging steel scrap dump trailers, chicken trailers. Guess they need another basket to put some eggs in.

Replied on Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:09 AM CST + 2 - 2
DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING CLEARWATER, MN 733 Posts, 375 +, 139 -	DAVE WINTERS DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN Remember when big mega had their ass clowns telling everyone how the ELD was going to make everything better? Low rates would become non existent, as would detention time? Well if it didn’t happen yet it’s very unlikely to happen going into a recession, and I doubt anyone is going to survive the next one, low oil prices mean no oilfield work, and the trade war means no Ag exports. That’s what carried most of us through the last one.

Replied on Wed, Aug 21, 2019 at 09:09 AM CST

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING

CLEARWATER, MN

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DAVE WINTERS

DWT TRUCKING - CLEARWATER, MN

Remember when big mega had their ass clowns telling everyone how the ELD was going to make everything better? Low rates would become non existent, as would detention time? Well if it didn’t happen yet it’s very unlikely to happen going into a recession, and I doubt anyone is going to survive the next one, low oil prices mean no oilfield work, and the trade war means no Ag exports. That’s what carried most of us through the last one.

Replied on Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM CST + 1 - 1
JERRY BECK BECK BULK HANKAMER, TX 513 Posts, 47 +, 5 -	JERRY BECK BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS Quote: "Remember when big mega had their ass clowns telling everyone how the ELD was going to make everything better? Low rates would become non existent, as would detention time? Well if it didn’t happen yet it’s very unlikely to happen going into a recession, and I doubt anyone is going to survive the next one, low oil prices mean no oilfield work, and the trade war means no Ag exports. That’s what carried most of us through the last one." I agree. The writing is on the wall

Replied on Fri, Aug 23, 2019 at 11:24 AM CST

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JERRY BECK

BECK BULK

HANKAMER, TX

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JERRY BECK

BECK BULK - HANKAMER, TX

Originally Posted by: DAVE WINTERS
Quote: "Remember when big mega had their ass clowns telling everyone how the ELD was going to make everything better? Low rates would become non existent, as would detention time? Well if it didn’t happen yet it’s very unlikely to happen going into a recession, and I doubt anyone is going to survive the next one, low oil prices mean no oilfield work, and the trade war means no Ag exports. That’s what carried most of us through the last one."

I agree. The writing is on the wall

Replied on Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 07:41 AM CST + 1
ED MCCONNELL ET TRUCKING LLC CASSELTON, ND 175 Posts, 23 +, 0 -	ED MCCONNELL ET TRUCKING LLC - CASSELTON, ND I say if a broker or other carrier comes in with lower rates and offers the service we provide day after day then the shipper should take it. Only thing is, when rate cutters come in, they only stay until they find something better and they are off. This normally happens and then we are called to pick up the pieces again. Well boys and girls, that is where the rate increase comes up! We will haul your freight faithfully, honestly and safely UNTIL you cut us out to a rate cutter! When that happens and we get called to pick up the pieces when the rate cutter leaves, our rates go up! We were hauling freight before the loads that are offered and we will be hauling freight long after the loads are done. Hell no! We will not haul cheap freight! Ladies and gentlemen, we are not in this proffession to make friends, for our good health or just because we love the job! We are here to make an honest living, provide for our families and provide good service for an honest rate! Be safe out there!

Replied on Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 07:41 AM CST

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ED MCCONNELL

ET TRUCKING LLC

CASSELTON, ND

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ED MCCONNELL

ET TRUCKING LLC - CASSELTON, ND

I say if a broker or other carrier comes in with lower rates and offers the service we provide day after day then the shipper should take it. Only thing is, when rate cutters come in, they only stay until they find something better and they are off. This normally happens and then we are called to pick up the pieces again. Well boys and girls, that is where the rate increase comes up! We will haul your freight faithfully, honestly and safely UNTIL you cut us out to a rate cutter! When that happens and we get called to pick up the pieces when the rate cutter leaves, our rates go up! We were hauling freight before the loads that are offered and we will be hauling freight long after the loads are done.

Hell no! We will not haul cheap freight! Ladies and gentlemen, we are not in this proffession to make friends, for our good health or just because we love the job! We are here to make an honest living, provide for our families and provide good service for an honest rate!

Be safe out there!

Replied on Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 07:41 AM CST + 3 - 1
ERIC VOGLER LARRY VOGLER TRUCKING LLC Nehawka, NE 64 Posts, 0 +, 11 -	ERIC VOGLER LARRY VOGLER TRUCKING LLC - Nehawka, NE Just an idea,I know you can't get 2 people in this industry to agree where to go have breakfast,but I think it would be a great idea if we could get some of us together,and work with each other and eliminate these brokers,we can all work at fair rates and not try and cut each others throats.I know it sounds like rainbows and lollipops but,it seems to work pretty well for OPEC.If we do this we could take control of things again,and push out Mega Broker.Just say no to brokers and lets work together for a common interest/survival.

Replied on Thu, Aug 29, 2019 at 07:41 AM CST

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ERIC VOGLER

LARRY VOGLER TRUCKING LLC

Nehawka, NE

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ERIC VOGLER

LARRY VOGLER TRUCKING LLC - Nehawka, NE

Just an idea,I know you can't get 2 people in this industry to agree where to go have breakfast,but I think it would be a great idea if we could get some of us together,and work with each other and eliminate these brokers,we can all work at fair rates and not try and cut each others throats.I know it sounds like rainbows and lollipops but,it seems to work pretty well for OPEC.If we do this we could take control of things again,and push out Mega Broker.Just say no to brokers and lets work together for a common interest/survival.

Replied on Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 04:01 PM CST
BRAD FETTER FETTER & SON FARMS LLC MORRAL, OH 47 Posts, 1 +, 0 -	BRAD FETTER FETTER & SON FARMS LLC - MORRAL, OH Just got hit again... Wow send me some money guys I need your overhead.... Carolina Loads to IN/IL not sure how you can keep cutting rates.

Replied on Fri, Sep 06, 2019 at 04:01 PM CST